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'Waiting for Chryed to Get It On' - Christian & Syed (Part 161)
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black cherry
02-05-2011
Originally Posted by violentfemme:
“Chryed were the business tonight. Loved Syed standing up to his parents and love Marc Elliott for being so fabulous. Loved Christian's "I'm proud of you" and his repeat of the sexgodrockness we saw during ABRC. It was great to get the mix of semi-angst with the comedy of the Jane-Martin sub-plot; it's been said before, but it's wonderful to see Chryed socialising and having fun with family and friends and long may this continue. Oh, I and I laarved Syed speaking for every Chryedian when he said "Surrogacy? After the last time? Are you frigging kidding me, just nooooooo."

I felt a bit of a tug at the old heartstrings when Syed talked of Masood's gambling and Zainab's tacit complicity in this, saying that they're not perfect either. Do you think he still feels that his own homosexuality is something which makes him less than perfect, a flaw which he has simply accepted he has to live with? I guess this is to be expected in a way - after all, he was brought up to believe that being gay is an aberration and old beliefs die hard - but I'd like to think that at some point he'll come to see the beauty in all parts of himself. I wonder whether this is something we may see explored if and when Chryed adopt/ have a child, as I would imagine Syed will be asking serious questions of himself and Christian in terms of how, and with which belief system he would wish that child to be raised.

I knew it was coming, but I squeaked in frustration when the scene ended so abruptly after Christian brought up the idea of adoption. Normally I wouldn't care, but knowing that we're now not going to see Syed for at least two weeks and therefore are going to miss out on the crucial discussion of this life-changing matter...gah.

Hope everyone's well”

BIB - business as usual for our boys then?? :sleep:

Interesting thought about Syed...I didn't think of it that way. Maybe Syed is 100% there yet, but I don't think he thinks of his homosexuality as a flaw either. i think he was just more pointing out reasons why they had no room to judge him or his life, regardless of what they think of him being gay.
MadWorld_NES
02-05-2011
I love the way Christian said 'baked potato'
rome81
02-05-2011
Originally Posted by MadWorld_NES:
“Yeah, they can Supposedly... I'm sure some adoption agencies don't let gay couples adopt though ”

Sounds about right...

Originally Posted by emma-saurus:
“Yeah ”

Thanks for answering!

Originally Posted by demented yoyo:
“Yes




They just can't have a snog or a bedscene on tv before 9pm ”

Well sure, that makes sense :sleep:

Originally Posted by indehed:
“BALLS!”

Er, what
Cookie-Crumble
02-05-2011
Originally Posted by heartsick:
“Finally caught up on all the comments. Good ones!

Not much to add. I loved it all. I even liked Christian's irritation with Syed. It was connected irritation, affectionate, not rejecting, but not giving ground. They just fight perfectly. I could learn something here. When i do my telly surveys, I am going to say that I learned something here.

And yes, Syed finally telling them that they have NO RIGHT to judge him. This the best bit. And you know what else? That he didn't drag the kiss with Jane into it. Even in his anger, he will not do gratuitous pain.

He is noble.

Wonderful.

And, just gorgeous.

Need I say more.


What a fine person we have chosen to fall in love with. Backbone? More than anyone else?”

All of this :sleep: Especially the BiBs

Originally Posted by demented yoyo:
“Yes

They just can't have a snog or a bedscene on tv before 9pm ”

disneynut1973
02-05-2011
Watching again on BBC3 for a change - happy!
asyousay
02-05-2011
Originally Posted by demented yoyo:
“Yes




They just can't have a snog or a bedscene on tv before 9pm ”

It has to be remembered the bbc are bound by rules because of the license fee. The BBC do have to be a lot more careful than ITV and so forth.
heartsick
02-05-2011
Originally Posted by violentfemme:
“Chryed were the business tonight. Loved Syed standing up to his parents and love Marc Elliott for being so fabulous. Loved Christian's "I'm proud of you" and his repeat of the sexgodrockness we saw during ABRC. It was great to get the mix of semi-angst with the comedy of the Jane-Martin sub-plot; it's been said before, but it's wonderful to see Chryed socialising and having fun with family and friends and long may this continue. Oh, I and I laarved Syed speaking for every Chryedian when he said "Surrogacy? After the last time? Are you frigging kidding me, just nooooooo."

I felt a bit of a tug at the old heartstrings when Syed talked of Masood's gambling and Zainab's tacit complicity in this, saying that they're not perfect either. Do you think he still feels that his own homosexuality is something which makes him less than perfect, a flaw which he has simply accepted he has to live with? I guess this is to be expected in a way - after all, he was brought up to believe that being gay is an aberration and old beliefs die hard - but I'd like to think that at some point he'll come to see the beauty in all parts of himself. I wonder whether this is something we may see explored if and when Chryed adopt/ have a child, as I would imagine Syed will be asking serious questions of himself and Christian in terms of how, and with which belief system he would wish that child to be raised.

I knew it was coming, but I squeaked in frustration when the scene ended so abruptly after Christian brought up the idea of adoption. Normally I wouldn't care, but knowing that we're now not going to see Syed for at least two weeks and therefore are going to miss out on the crucial discussion of this life-changing matter...gah.

Hope everyone's well”

This is an interesting post, vf. I didn;t hear this this way at first, but more of an anger about judgment on their terms. But yes, maybe it could have been more along the lines of 'I'm proud of who I am and what I am. At peace with Allan - so how dare you judge. Put your own gambling house in order...' That would have been clearer.

As for the second bit, yes, I have been wondering how they would bring a child up together. As a Muslim? Not to drink? Eating the veggie option? Interfaith couples can do fine on their own, but the decisions around children change the nature of that family dynamic. So yes, this could be interesting. But it is EE...
surreal
02-05-2011
Originally Posted by heartsick:
“Finally caught up on all the comments. Good ones!

Not much to add. I loved it all. I even liked Christian's irritation with Syed. It was connected irritation, affectionate, not rejecting, but not giving ground. They just fight perfectly. I could learn something here. When i do my telly surveys, I am going to say that I learned something here.

And yes, Syed finally telling them that they have NO RIGHT to judge him. This the best bit. And you know what else? That he didn't drag the kiss with Jane into it. Even in his anger, he will not do gratuitous pain.

He is noble.

Wonderful.

And, just gorgeous.

Need I say more.

What a fine person we have chosen to fall in love with. Backbone? More than anyone else?”

Oh Heartsick this is wonderful hon!

And please don't worry about the poster on WW, this might be hard to believe but coming from him that is actually an amazing comment. You have no idea how much he dislikes Syed and how horrid his comments have been in the past. However, since the the ABRC he's slowly seeing the light, baby steps but steps nonetheless
who me?
02-05-2011
Originally Posted by starfish100:
“Can't keep up tonight! Huge wave to Rome! xx Hi hun! xx



That's a good point, well spotted.



I did think that was bizarre. I think Jane just tries to keep the peace, and is constantly hoping that Masood will be different, she did have a go at him during the ABRC night, so I think she just doesn't know what else to do.

It was nice to see her being so affectionate and nice with Syed.




I think the build up of scenes with Jane is happening for a reason, I really, really, really hope she is going to talk to Masood and try to make him see sense.

I didn't mind the Roxy scenes, for once, I think the Roxy/Syed difficulties have faded a bit now, and she was obviously okay about selling the Salon.



Brilliant points! Yes he got angry for HIM as well as Christian, and that is healthy for him.



Christian is going to be isolated, with only Syed, and I wonder how much Jane's going will affect him too. I really hope she doesn't leave because of the whole thing with Masood coming out - but I am starting to fear this might be the reason she goes off?



I agree with this pretty much. Not really comparable. However I shall want to see Christian make a stand similar to Happy Monday if she starts interfering again. But I don't think there is going to be any more trouble with Roxy - I think tonight was clearly signalled as 'Roxy's growing up' - and I hope as a result she'll treat Syed a lot better.

I think it's been really interesting to see the faults of both sides of Chryed explored, neither have been perfect but I think Christian did behave very badly in the surrogacy. I did love Syed's look of horror about it during the mention tonight, that was another thing that made it okay for me, as I think it was almost funny! And it sort of indicated to me that Christian knew he had been a bit crazy and irresponsible.”

Hiya starfish.

While I agree the situations are not the same, Syed despite knowing how Roxy felt about him over all that time never as far as I can remember tried to stop Christian seeing her. Christian didn't have to 'sneak' around or keep quiet because Syed never made a fuss, for Christian's sake as she is his best friend. While I understand all of Christian's reluctance and fears over the Masoods, the fact is they were making steps towards reconciliation and by today a little bit of support might have been better.

Syed didn't need to push it today but maybe he felt he had to given Christian's irritation at Syed even seeing his mum at all today. It wasn't like Syed wasn't spending a lot of time with Christian, but he wanted some time alone with his mum that was all.

I also liked Syed's look of horror about the surrogacy memory but i don;t see adoption as a better option if it wasn't the way you were thinking anyway.
elphaba7589
02-05-2011
Hey VF and JN

Originally Posted by MadWorld_NES:
“I love the way Christian said 'baked potato' ”

The facelift thing made me chuckle Never get a facelift Christian :sleep: *sings*cos you're amazing, just the way you are*
LovelyLaura
02-05-2011
Originally Posted by MadWorld_NES:
“I love the way Christian said 'baked potato' ”

I now have the urge to post this

black cherry
02-05-2011
Originally Posted by MadWorld_NES:
“Yeah, they can Supposedly... I'm sure some adoption agencies don't let gay couples adopt though ”

I think they have to by law, don't they? Wasn't there a case of a catholic adoption agency refusing to adhere to this, and so chose to close instead??

Need to do some googling I think, in case I'm making it up...
rome81
02-05-2011
Originally Posted by asyousay:
“It has to be remembered the bbc are bound by rules because of the license fee. The BBC do have to be a lot more careful than ITV and so forth.”

It's not the BBC I find ridiculous, it's the rules that are
Rhumbatugger
02-05-2011
Originally Posted by elphaba7589:
“Hey VF and JN



The facelift thing made me chuckle Never get a facelift Christian :sleep: *sings*cos you're amazing, just the way you are* ”

That cap is awesome

I loved that scene - Christian so HOT in this ep.
meg_icy
02-05-2011
Originally Posted by MadWorld_NES:
“My mum hasn't spoken to me since our 'falling out' before EE

Probably a good thing though, I'm not best pleased with her ”

Sorry you're having a difficult evening. xx
asyousay
02-05-2011
Originally Posted by rome81:
“It's not the BBC I find ridiculous, it's the rules that are ”

The rules are wrong but soo many people are still so bigoted so they pander to the masses.
violentfemme
02-05-2011
Originally Posted by JoanneK:
“Usual EE build up then...Christian mentions it once (barely any reaction from Syed) then off to the adoption agency two weeks later Oh, and maybe we'll get Christian talking to Jane/Roxy about it...joy :sleep:”

For the surrogacy s/l we got food symbolism in the shape of a fried egg bap. For the adoption we need them to go round to the caff to borrow a cup of sugar. They can meet the social worker there at the same time, kill two birds with one stone and easily get all this done in under 30 seconds.

This said, I'm thinking the social worker scene will definitely be at the flat so that we can get a raised eyebrow at the large bed and candles occupying approx. 50% of the living space.
heartsick
02-05-2011
Originally Posted by Zoetjetoch:
“I'm kind of pleased that they stayed at the Vic, while Mas & Z couldn't leave quick enough. It may seem quite far-fetched, but for some reason it shows to me a strength in Syed. He may be devastated by his parents' reaction, but he's not running away like a scared kid. And he's got Christian, of course, which helps...

totally random ”

Yes! Good point. Who owns the space - Syed and Christian now own the space!
starfish100
02-05-2011
Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“Back again.

I think they were always going to bring in 'Gay with Children' as a storyline.

I wasn't really too bothered about the way Christian bought up adoption. It was a suggestion, and yes it's what he wants.

But he also knows that Syed also wants family, the one he had and one of his own, and Syed told him such on more than one occasion.

I also think that they both realise that adoption is a long process, and it can be abandoned in the middle, but if it's not started soon they'd have much less chance - although this is more on Christian's mind than Syed's.

I'm not worried about the adoption thing, I think it'll fail, personally, but they'd have tried, and then ...... Amira's child will make an appearance.

The storylines for Chryed have to continue - and this is a soap, so lots of different things going on for them is fine by me
.”

Really good post. I think it could all go like this too.

Originally Posted by violentfemme:
“Chryed were the business tonight. Loved Syed standing up to his parents and love Marc Elliott for being so fabulous. Loved Christian's "I'm proud of you" and his repeat of the sexgodrockness we saw during ABRC. It was great to get the mix of semi-angst with the comedy of the Jane-Martin sub-plot; it's been said before, but it's wonderful to see Chryed socialising and having fun with family and friends and long may this continue. Oh, I and I laarved Syed speaking for every Chryedian when he said "Surrogacy? After the last time? Are you frigging kidding me, just nooooooo."

I felt a bit of a tug at the old heartstrings when Syed talked of Masood's gambling and Zainab's tacit complicity in this, saying that they're not perfect either. Do you think he still feels that his own homosexuality is something which makes him less than perfect, a flaw which he has simply accepted he has to live with? I guess this is to be expected in a way - after all, he was brought up to believe that being gay is an aberration and old beliefs die hard - but I'd like to think that at some point he'll come to see the beauty in all parts of himself. I wonder whether this is something we may see explored if and when Chryed adopt/ have a child, as I would imagine Syed will be asking serious questions of himself and Christian in terms of how, and with which belief system he would wish that child to be raised.

I knew it was coming, but I squeaked in frustration when the scene ended so abruptly after Christian brought up the idea of adoption. Normally I wouldn't care, but knowing that we're now not going to see Syed for at least two weeks and therefore are going to miss out on the crucial discussion of this life-changing matter...gah.

Hope everyone's well”

Hi VF! Great post. The paragraph I've bolded, yes I kind of went ouch at that point. I think it could be a simple comparison that he is making - and obviously taking into account his parents pov that they do regard him as sinful. But I think this might be one area left to explore. Has he made that final leap, and maybe this is one final hurdle he has to go through. Does he regard himself as flawed, and having to live with this flaw, or has he reached the final stage and can look in the mirror and say, I am okay, I am allowed to exist, I am fine as I am.

Maybe it is something left for them to explore with him. And maybe this might lie behind some of Christian's fears? Tonight should have made him feel a lot better though.
rome81
02-05-2011
Originally Posted by black cherry:
“I think they have to by law, don't they? Wasn't there a case of a catholic adoption agency refusing to adhere to this, and so chose to close instead??

Need to do some googling I think, in case I'm making it up...”

Sometimes that kind of thing is hard to prove though. They'll say it's something else, like it's because they don't have a steady income or something, but really it the "gay thing"
Bcn_nutty
02-05-2011
Evening!
Just rushing here (and i had to find "here") to wave hello. Really crazy week here, so probably won't be seeing me in a few days.

Just gone through your comments during the episonde. Can't wait to see the clips!

Be good () & have fun! See you in a few days!



Originally Posted by heartsick:
“Waarom niet? Zijn wij niet 'international'??”

Ja natuurlijk!

En Rome, veel plezier in London
elphaba7589
02-05-2011
Originally Posted by LovelyLaura:
“I now have the urge to post this

”

I love Shooting Stars


Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“That cap is awesome

I loved that scene - Christian so HOT in this ep.”

He looked lush
indehed
02-05-2011
Originally Posted by rome81:
“Er, what ”

it's what I always exclaim when I've done too many screencaps. 110 and counting and only 16 minutes into the episode...
who me?
02-05-2011
Originally Posted by elphaba7589:
“Hey VF and JN



The facelift thing made me chuckle Never get a facelift Christian :sleep: *sings*cos you're amazing, just the way you are* ”

True he doesn't need one.
meg_icy
02-05-2011
Originally Posted by asyousay:
“Nope its totally sucks. If only i could find that millionair husband ”

It does! I know, I've been keeping a look out for one of those myself.......although I really should go and check that Lotto ticket too, just in case! Maybe Johnny brought me luck, but I doubt it!
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