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Phasing out of DVD players
As Blu'Ray has a better PQ and you can play Dvd disc's on them anyway , will the DVD player be phased out?
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Unlikely to happen for years and probably never.
DVD players cost peanuts to make and its now clear that uptake of Bluray is never going to reach dvd levels so I think both formats and their respective players will co-exist side by side. |
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Unlikely to happen for years and probably never.
DVD players cost peanuts to make and its now clear that uptake of Bluray is never going to reach dvd levels so I think both formats and their respective players will co-exist side by side. It will be a few years though and much depends on whether the companies decide to force everybody on to the download route as to whether either format survives on any great scale. |
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It will happen eventually as the BR players become cheaper, you can get them now for <£60 and I would think they will be had for about £30 in a year or so. The price of BR disks has come down, not a great difference these days especially if you wait a while before buying a new release
I hate the whole idea of streaming films but I suspect within a decade disks of any kind will be gone as the broadband infrastructure improves and if will be a case of movies on demand for all or buying a movie as one does a song or ebook these days, or perhaps going into a shop and loading one onto a memory stick
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Unlikely to happen for years and probably never.
DVD players cost peanuts to make and its now clear that uptake of Bluray is never going to reach dvd levels so I think both formats and their respective players will co-exist side by side. |
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It hasn't happened with VHS in this household. Not yet.
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It hasn't happened with VHS in this household. Not yet.
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Won't the time come where blue-ray drives fall in price to the point where seperate DVD only drives aren't needed?
Rather like the old Garrad & BSR tuntables with a small lever marked 78 45 33 16 (no 16rpm records in my collection). |
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As already alluded to, we are gradually moving away from the need to own a physical media copy. Blu-ray players have already started to provide the abilty to stream content over the internet. On-demand technology will eventually give everyone access to libraries containing every film there is, obviously with some method of charging.
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As already alluded to, we are gradually moving away from the need to own a physical media copy. Blu-ray players have already started to provide the abilty to stream content over the internet. On-demand technology will eventually give everyone access to libraries containing every film there is, obviously with some method of charging.
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Once BluRay players get down to the £20-£30 quid mark then yes,I expect production of new DVD players to be phased out in favour of BluRay players and I expect that to happen over the next two or three years. I don't think it will mean the end of DVD releases though, at least not in the same timescales. However it probably will happen eventually just like it has pretty much happened with VHS, although some companies do still release the odd VHS even today.
As for digital downloads, it is and will continue to rise. However, due to the often huge divide between rural broadband speeds and those in major towns and cities, I suspect that BluRay will be with us for many years to come. I mean the governments own long term plans are only to ensure everyone has a broadband speed of around 2Mb, so that will still leave large parts of Britain with speeds simply too slow for decent HD quality streaming and downloading for many years to come. Until that changes those who want the best quality will continue to buy some kind of physical medium, whether it is BluRay, it's successor or some kind of solid state distribution medium though remains to be seen. |
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It won't happen overnight, but DVD only players will get less common.
The price difference between computer BD-ROM and DVD-ROM drives is decreasing rapidly, fairly soon we'll get to the point where it's just not economic to make DVD only drives, just like you can't get a CD-ROM drive any more. Getting back to video formats, it's a different issue than it was with VHS. As all previous DVDs are playable in a Blu-ray player, it's not going to require replacing your whole film library again before you can get rid of your DVD player. |
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As already alluded to, we are gradually moving away from the need to own a physical media copy. Blu-ray players have already started to provide the abilty to stream content over the internet. On-demand technology will eventually give everyone access to libraries containing every film there is, obviously with some method of charging.
People will still of course have physical copies of "home videos" they made on their own equipment. I have an old hi-fi book written by a man called Gordon J. King in 1973, he predicted a system where people would listen to and buy music "over the telephone system", so it could be said he predicted i-tunes! |
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It's governed by economies of scale.
Once the cost difference between a DVD and a BD drive is small enough that the difference in production cost is outweighed by the cost savings in inventory and support, and it justifies the added perceived value then sure, DVD players will disappear. Higher end manufacturers have already cut back on their standard DVD player ranges. It's only a matter of time. The format and software won't go the same way though. Penetration of BD will have to be far higher, and customers will have to care enough to fork out the extra for the discs. Online is likely to be the volume player for general consumption before BD overtakes DVD as a format for software consumption. |
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Yes but it won't be that many years before Blu-ray players are as cheap to make as DVD players, when that happens it won't make economic sense to produce both types of machine.
. While the price of Bluray players will continue to drop so will the cost of low budget dvd players Quote:
It happened with VHS to DVD, so why not Bluray to DVD. It just takes years.
Why make players for a format with no release schedule? There are no signs of dvd being phased out. Have you ever tried to play a dvd on a VHS player? There is a similarity between Bluray and dvd and the more discerning buyer can still play dvd's on his Bluray player. Some are happy to stick with dvd, nobody wanted to stick with VHS. |
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What I am finding interesting, Apple is always one for making technology redundant, they are in the process of making physical disk box copies of their software a thing of the past, download only.
It is also rumoured that the next refresh of the Mac Pro laptops wont have an optical disk drive as it will make way for more battery space, My predictions for technology graveyard for the near future are [LIST][*]LCD TV - LED variants will probably be the standard for TV manufacturers[*]Scart - We will soon start seeing TV's produced without this connection[/LIST] Hope for the future [LIST][*]Wireless Blu Ray players talking to your TV[*]OLED affordable to the masses TV's[/LIST] |
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While the price of Bluray players will continue to drop so will the cost of low budget dvd players
...even the worst technophobe could see how crap VHS was. Some are happy to stick with dvd, nobody wanted to stick with VHS. Price: There's a floor level price for any product, and DVD players are no exception. We have branded DVD players selling for £20. That's the same as Argos's no name crappy value range. There's a point where the cost of packaging and transport outweigh the product cost. Then there's the cost of sales: Capital tied up in stock, warehouse space, handling, warranty support etc. All of that has to be offset against the pounds (£'s) profit. So I'm pretty convinced that DVD player prices are close to bottoming out. Amazon doesn't bother selling full sized DVD players below £19.99. Even Tesco, a retailer never afraid to scrape the bottom of the quality barrel is at £17.49 for a no-name Chinese job. I mean c'mon... just how much cheaper do you think they can get? VHS quality: Yes, the resolution may have been crap by the standard of DVD feature films, but.... a) VHS worked well as a home recording compared to DVD Recorders which have proved to be incredibly flaky b) DVD recording quality takes a bath when dropping from the best (and shortest) speed None wanted to stick with VHS: - On the contrary, lots of people wanted to stick with VHS. Especially those fed up with overcomplicated DVD recorders, format incompatibilities, blank media issues, failing laser mechanisms etc etc etc. The area where DVD has been an unqualified success is in prerecorded media. Like CD before it, DVD offered a significant step up in quality that could be widely appreciated without the need for radically new equipment. Blu-ray hasn't achieved the same step jump, and I don't think it will. BD will be leveraged in to homes rather than adopted. |
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About 2 years. Bluray players are hitting the 60~ dollar marks now.
This will be hurried along by the fact that those cheap dvd players need to be replaced in about 2 years as well. |
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How much cheaper?, well actually I purchase a DVD player in Superdrug about 5 years ago for £9.99, and it still works pefectly, unlike the 2 "Acoustic Solutions" i had before that packed up just out of guarentee.Its an "Amuseer" by the way.
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DVD Players will not fall below £10-£15. VHS never did before that became obsolete.
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As already alluded to, we are gradually moving away from the need to own a physical media copy. Blu-ray players have already started to provide the abilty to stream content over the internet. On-demand technology will eventually give everyone access to libraries containing every film there is, obviously with some method of charging.
Fibre will be many years coming for some people and not at all to others. Anyway a disk is more reliable than streaming, at least you are pretty sure that it is going to work when you place it in your DVD/blue-ray player, something you can never be sure of with the internet. |
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As Blu'Ray has a better PQ and you can play Dvd disc's on them anyway , will the DVD player be phased out?
DVDs will still be around for a while, there are still people out there that don't have a HD T.V for a start. The T.V i got up here in my bedroom is a old CRT and a old DVd player hooked up to it, not that I have used it for a while. |
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Perhaps because VHS was phased out as a format and even the worst technophobe could see how crap VHS was.
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I have a few modern 78's (from the 2000's) pressed on modern vinyl and the sound is amazing. Bass like nothing else - its all in the groove velocity, baby.
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is at £17.49 for a no-name Chinese job. I mean c'mon... just how much cheaper do you think they can get?