Oh yes that's right. He could have postponed to see how the land lay. I suppose it's possible that John's Mum is here too - she was due to visit and may have booked her ticket in advance.

I know I'm getting excited now

If John is over for work he may feel / have been told to keep everything as low key as possible.

Just because John doesn't like doing premiers, reality tv shows, mag articles doesn't mean he can't do adverts, modelling or djing.

He is accused of being lazy and having no focus career wise what is wrong with these options. Adverts and modelling are to promote products not themselves.

I hope that all these rumours etc will not jeopardise his opporunities and any work he has coming up.

When will he be allowed to get on with his life without being expected to keep Josie informed?

Is he not allowed to set foot in uk without josie's ok?

What has he done wrong? He is single and if he has asked his friends to keep things quiet they wouldn't be good friends if they didn't.

Josie and her or friends seem to be able to make insinuations about anything to do with John and get away with it.

If he is back he will probably be following instructions on what he should do from an agent or hirer of his services.

Josie seems to have used every little bit of info on him to promote publicity for herself.

They were not married or engaged and only lived together for 8 months isn't it therefore perfectly normal for him to move on and not have to consider Josie.

Also with all the comments been made about him particularly from the Josie camp ie hankies, closet gay, not enough sex, could do with learning a few moves in the bedroom, I think he will have a girlfriend as he moves on quickly, selling stories on you, lied about you why would he feel that he needs to consider josie's feelings because she had not considered his.

Josie can be guilty and always defended as being innocent John is always guilty based on little evidence or sound reasoning.

I think Josie is bringing all this on herself with her silly tweets and lack of respect and contradictory stories in the press.

You can't help feel that she is positioning herself for the victim but I'll bounce back image for her tv appearances next week.

We have seen Josie openly flirt with mat on tv but John hasn't done anything public and he is slated for it.

I would think anyone would think twice about having a relationship with Josie now they know what they could be in store for if they split.

Maybe John feels he has pretty much let Josie have free reign in the press in the lead up to her programme and that he has therefore done enough and should be free to move on in whatever way he chooses.

I was joking

Just tried to catch up - impossible, have to go in a minute. I re-looked at the pic of Sexy's cousin. There is a strong resemblance to Josie in some ways, the eyes.

I don't know what to believe to be honest. I won't believe John is in the UK until I hear from some reliable source or see pics. I would like to know John is here, but after the problems he had with the media, perhaps we won't ever know.

I know

I was just thinking how can John do a Fosters advert when he doesnt drink maybe they will bring milk into the equation. Dont they say Fosters is like milk anyway.

Absolutely spot on jjjfinny. Terrific post and I couldn't agree more. I think John has more than paid his dues to Josie - paying for the flat etc etc. I get so annoyed when I see Josie's FF butting in and making nasty tweets. They weren't in the relationship, they only heard one side. Surely they don't think they are doing any good involved - or do they?

John and his friends have kept quiet. As you say, they haven't commented on the tacky magazine articles, they haven't responded largely to the nasty tweets about John's sexuality. John and Josie lived together but it didn't work. Finished.

If John is over here and working good for him. As you say, he can build a media career without having to go to premieres, nightclubs and staged parties and without doing tacky photoshoots. He can do what he wants with no obligation.

Despite what some may think, I believe John truly loved Josie, he may still love her, but he cannot live with her. She has too much baggage. He does too, but I think he can deal with his a bit more easily as he has a good support network. John doesn't need to be accountable to Josie anymore. He is single. Whether he now has a girlfriend, who knows? It is up to him whether to tell us or not - and why not? Both Josie and John acknowledge the relationship is over. So we wait to find out what is happening.

I don't believe the relationship before Xmas was fake
and despite what it may seem, it does take two to love and live and break up and live.

I saw the last Fosters ad last night. They only take a sip. They could always put water into the can.

Must away for a while. Good luck loving jjj. Look forward to seeing you on the thread soon.

I love this jjjfinny. What has he done wrong? I'm suspicious about the gf rumour because, without that, most people would be celebrating the fact that he was back in the UK, especially the news that he might be fliming a prestigious advert. Now, instead of being a positive reaction, it's a negative one.

I feel so sorry for him - he can't do anything right in some people's eyes and it's getting boring now. I just want him to move on, succeed and be happy. Go John!!!

I think do does have the odd drink - he just doesn't do it too excess. I remember him having the odd one in the house

There is a post on the other thread about Josie and them thinking that she should know what John is doing and JJ should have told her. I wont bring it over because they might take offence.

I dont agree with this at all. John isnt obligated to tell Josie anything. They arent in a relationship anymore and why should she know whether he is here or not and where he is living. If he does get in touch with her it will be because he wants to not because he is forced to.According to the tweets we have seen he asked JJ not to say anything and JJ was being a loyal friend and doing what he asked. Why should he be held responsible for Johns actions and be bombarded with tweets from Josies friends who think that he has been lying. IMO I am sure that JJ will have chosen his words well if he has spoken to Josie he knows how things work.

As I said before the UK is big enough for the both of them. They need never meet up. John may have to go to London at some point or may even move back to London to live but as he doesnt go out to every opening of an envelope then I am sure never the twain shall meet but if they do then so be it. I dont think for a second that John doesnt still have feelings for Josie but I think he has made the decision that he cannot live with her. If she isnt a loose canon herself then her friends certainly are and I am sure everything that is sent over the internet is with her approval.

Morning all, good post by finny

Interesting to see the reaction of JJJers to this latest blatantly cynical attempt at manipulation - will it backfire? Hardcore 'JJJ' fans who only really like John if 'there's a chance' are weeping for poor, hurt Josie and blaming John - because he, heartless prig, refuses to get drawn in to her games. The Misery brigade will be satisfied by nothing less than a public declaration of love and regret. However, those with a bit of nous have smelt a great big rat, and the stench ain't coming from John's corner!

Well she has certainly blown the tumbleweed away, for now - but it will be interesting to see how many supporters remain, and of what 'calibre', once the dust settles

Maybe is is keeping a low profile because of the threads he got. We know how he panicked after Nathans dinner with Corin in the house.

It's crazy really because we don't even know if he's back in the UK for sure yet. And if he is he probably wanted to tell Josie once he has settled. We know he suffers from jet lag really badly and possibly couldn't handle things straight away. He was probably hoping to keep his visit secret for a while and didn't want it splashed all over twitter.

Great to see you back moggyservant

Congratulations on Part 4 all Achilleans

Have to pop out now but look forward to catching up later.

Quite! If I were John, I wouldn't touch her with a bargepole, never mind a widger. If he does, she'll only make a few more mag articles out of it - a last gasp for the JJJ marketing brand.

Absolutetly lol

This could be in his mind but I dont think thats the main reason for him wanting to keep a low profile. From the tweets yesterday and the alledged sightings of him and also JJ not denying that he is here I think we can assume that he is here. I love that he has just come in through the airport and no one has got a pic of him.

WOOOP WOOOP PART 4 YEAH! FEEL THE LURVE! BIG UP YOUR CHESTS!

Wow - part 3 flew by - even with the odd page removed

Interseting and well balanced tweets.Go John!

I know ,very very proud off all Achilleans and John off course!

I am loving all the posts ,well done everyone on reaching Part 4.Commercials is my dream for John and I hope it is true. I have no words for Josie and her chav friends but they deserve everything they are getting.

Lovingjjj I hope all goes well for you.

I am pleased about John being in the UK during the TV show if it is true.He can get TV time to say something if need be.He doesnt need this dirty PR.So Sean is a PR Specialist after all,knew John was worth much more and distanced himself from Josie's stunts.Josie's alliance with mrmarky cant please Sean after he spread rumours about him.How naive is Josie.to allay herself with someone who slaggs off your agent? Go John!

I am off for a few hrs for an excersize class,be back later