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Theory about the little girl (SPOILER)
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revans33
08-05-2011
According to this website, the little girl at the end of The Day of the Moon (who is played by Sydney Wade) is credited in a later episode Young Lucy Saxon/Cole.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3041653/

Could Amy's child be Lucy Saxon?
(Sorry if this has already been posted on here! Or if there is another thread on it)
simon6942
08-05-2011
That website certainly confirms that Lucy Saxon is back, and that the little girl is her younger self.

It leaves the question "Who exactly is Lucy Saxon?"
Jepson
08-05-2011
Originally Posted by simon6942:
“That website certainly confirms that Lucy Saxon is back, and that the little girl is her younger self.

It leaves the question "Who exactly is Lucy Saxon?"”

The wife of 'The Master' John Saxon.
JCRendle
08-05-2011
Originally Posted by simon6942:
“That website certainly confirms that Lucy Saxon is back”

It may say it, but it doesn't confirm it. IMDB is full of inaccurate information and should be taken with less than a grain of salt, maybe an atom of salt.
Jepson
08-05-2011
Originally Posted by JCRendle:
“It may say it, but it doesn't confirm it. IMDB is full of inaccurate information and should be taken with less than a grain of salt, maybe an atom of salt.”

That is dramatically overstating the case.

The vast majority of IMDB information - certainly about things that have been shown/released is accurate.

And, you can't have an atom of salt. It's a compound, not an element.
simon6942
08-05-2011
Originally Posted by Jepson:
“The wife of 'The Master' John Saxon.”

It's not going to be as simple as that though is it?

From what we previously thought we knew of the Master's wife, she appeared to be an innocent party who happened to marry the Master. This is now clearly not the case.
AndiC
08-05-2011
Lucy Saxon wasn't American
M@nterik
08-05-2011
Originally Posted by Jepson:
“That is dramatically overstating the case.

The vast majority of IMDB information - certainly about things that have been shown/released is accurate.

And, you can't have an atom of salt. It's a compound, not an element. ”

Thank God you clarified that bit of nit picking pedantry for us.

I don't think anyone else here could have lived a full and happy life without that distinction being cleared up.
Paparazzo
08-05-2011
Originally Posted by AndiC:
“Lucy Saxon wasn't American ”

She regenerated
JCRendle
08-05-2011
Originally Posted by Jepson:
“That is dramatically overstating the case.

The vast majority of IMDB information - certainly about things that have been shown/released is accurate.

And, you can't have an atom of salt. It's a compound, not an element. ”

From earlier series of Doctor Who when they have mentioned cast upcoming in later episodes, alot of the time the actors/characters listed have been proven false.
Seneschal
08-05-2011
Originally Posted by JCRendle:
“From earlier series of Doctor Who when they have mentioned cast upcoming in later episodes, alot of the time the actors/characters listed have been proven false.”

To be honest, if I were running a show where secrecy regarding character appearances was of the utmost importance, I would definitely try and spread some false information around...and one of the easiest ways of doing that would be to edit imdb.

Sure, it would be interesting if it were Lucy Saxon (I always felt that she was an underdeveloped character), but there doesn't seem to be any corroborating evidence for it. I don't even think that anybody on the DS forums proposed it, and that's saying something...
Jepson
08-05-2011
Originally Posted by M@nterik:
“Thank God you clarified that bit of nit picking pedantry for us.

I don't think anyone else here could have lived a full and happy life without that distinction being cleared up.”

What's the matter?

Do you prefer to be ignorant?
Mulett
08-05-2011
I can't imagine Steven Moffatt would use a storyline/character developed by RTD. He's too original in his writing.
MissTinkerbell
08-05-2011
Spoiler
I read and I can't remember where that this is also the episode that we see a young Rory and a young Amy as well as a young Lucy. It said that we see the two youngsters playing with a third child


Also if you read the rest of the actors for that episode - it also lists Lucy Saxon and Jenny but no mention of the other 2 mentioned above.
englishmuffin
08-05-2011
Or, stretching it even further, what if the child is Lucy Saxon/the Masters child, I mean there was a whole year we never saw of them, it wouldn't be impossible for them to have a child in that time.
Can't think why it wouldn't be mentioned though.
Unless they just forgot about the child when the world was reset? Clutching at invisible straws I know.

Amy's pregnancy could be completely unrelated, just a trick of the Silence/Moffat to throw us off the case, relevant of course, but not directly anything to do with the little girl.
fastest finger
08-05-2011
If Lucy was a TimeLord, surely the Doc would have noticed...?

Unless she had been fob watched.....

But the Journalist investigating Mr. Saxon specifically said that Lucy's history checked out as genuine....

Looking forward to seeing how this all works out. We know that there is a living TimeLord out there somewhere.... maybe she's the one?
Cmwatt
08-05-2011
...all very intriguing, especially as little Sydney played Alex Kingston's daughter in Marchlands just a few weeks ago...
M@nterik
08-05-2011
Originally Posted by Jepson:
“What's the matter?

Do you prefer to be ignorant? ”

This is a Doctor Who forum.

I personally prefer to read Doctor Who debate rather than stupid and pointless put downs from people, like you, with little else to offer.
kitthekat
08-05-2011
Originally Posted by fastest finger:
“But the Journalist investigating Mr. Saxon specifically said that Lucy's history checked out as genuine....”

I was going to make this point.

According to the tie-in website, haroldsaxon.co.uk, Lucy was the youngest child of Lord Cole of Tarminster, and is referred to as being from a "good family", so while her parents could have adopted her, one would have expected it might have been mentioned during the scene with the journalist. Not that this rules out the possibility entirely, of course.
tysonstorm
08-05-2011
The Master's Daughter. lol
Jepson
09-05-2011
Originally Posted by M@nterik:
“This is a Doctor Who forum.

I personally prefer to read Doctor Who debate ...”

It's a science fiction forum.

Why would any intelligent person want incorrect science to stand uncorrected?

I suppose you start whining if someone posted that e=mc^3 and it was pointed out that was wrong.

It really is quite sad the efforts that some people will go to maintain ignorance.
johnnysaucepn
09-05-2011
Originally Posted by Jepson:
“It's a science fiction forum.

Why would any intelligent person want incorrect science to stand uncorrected?

I suppose you start whining if someone posted that e=mc^3 and it was pointed out that was wrong.

It really is quite sad the efforts that some people will go to maintain ignorance.”

Well, it's science fiction, and an atom of salt doesn't exist, so I think it's perfectly fine...
HandsomeBB
09-05-2011
I've noticed no foreshadowing / teasing of Lucy Saxon in DW or any of the spin-offs.

The closest is "I love a bad girl me" which could just as well apply to River.
davek
09-05-2011
Originally Posted by Jepson:
“That is dramatically overstating the case.

The vast majority of IMDB information - certainly about things that have been shown/released is accurate.

And, you can't have an atom of salt. It's a compound, not an element. ”

And the saying works the other way round anyway - the more unbelievable/unrealiable the info is the LARGER the pinch of salt you take with it.
CmdrBond
09-05-2011
Well, the idea that the Girl is somehow related to the Master makes sense - it could be Lucy's child and therefore half-timelord.

We will have to wait and see, but it is certainly one twist I had overlooked.

SO, the plausible options in My opinion for the Little Girl are
Spoiler
The Doctor & River Song's Daughter
The Doctor & Amy Pond-Williams's Daughter
Rory Williams & Amy Pond-Williams Daughter - Regeneration due to strange things that have happened to Rory/Amy
The Doctor and another Timelady's (Idris?) Daughter
The Master's (& Lucy Saxon) Daughter
Someone else all together.

I don't buy the Girl being a TARDIS - but her Spacesuit might be - only it certainly did not look bigger on the inside when they were examining it.
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