This thread is a continuation of: The John James & Josie Appreciation Thread
The John James & Josie Appreciation Thread (Part 173)
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Originally Posted by wishit:
“Once this show has been aired she needs to take herself away for a couple of weeks with no twitter and get herself together for new adventures that lie ahead”
“Once this show has been aired she needs to take herself away for a couple of weeks with no twitter and get herself together for new adventures that lie ahead”
completely agree. not a 3 or 4 day break like the last one but a proper holiday for a few weeks to try and get herself together again
Originally Posted by ferfer:
“First! Party time! Excellent!”
“First! Party time! Excellent!”
ferfer was you lurking waiting for that
...how do peeps know when thead is goner change
Alright loves? I think I'm up to date with all the goings on thus far today. Some ups and downs again, I see. I won't be making my thoughts manifest on Mr Marky as I try to refrain from profranities 
<---------- those can sum it up nicely!
I'm back in business for a little while. Thanks to everyone for your PMs etc
You make me feel so very very loved!! Big smooches for you bunch of honeypies!
I won't comment on the events earlier from the day as the time has past. But on the most recent of Josie's tweets - some I feel are being quite hard on her. Again, I don't agree with the medium she is using to express her thoughts but I GET her! I do. If i was in her position - a young woman broken up with the man I thought I'd spend the rest of my life with, surrounded by those who are tormenting her with CRAP knowing the emotional turmoil she is in, being told 'revelations' that apparently John not only has a new girlfriend but cheated on her for months (we know this is not the case) ... I wouldn't have even half as much restraint as she has had!! Considering what she believes to have happened she could have said some truly naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasty things and I would have done. (I'm immature and irrational like that) Put yourself in Josie's shoes. And put yourself in John's shoes.
Poor Josie. Poor John. John too has been slandered publically and even worse (probably the biggest knife to his heart) is that his former girlfriend who he loved/loves so much was convinced by these same rumours (which were NOTHING more than that!) by those who delight in stirring! I feel for them both very verrrrrry much
Josie did apologise - yes she said 'if' I don't really think that's a big deal. Her apology is valid if it is not true but only conditional on the basis that it is lies. (does that even make sense? I'm sorry if it doesn't .. it did in my lil pea of a brain) Some say she is a fool for this - but IF it turned out to be true and she'd apologised wholeheartedly and even professed some sort of feelings for John - how SILLY would she look and feel then??
I understand why she used the word 'if' - one tiny little word has been condemned by lots (not so much on here but twitter certainly) It doesn't suggest that she does not mean her apology but it covers her looking more foolish if it is revealed to be TRUE. Things are not going to make sense in her head as she is hearing thousands of alternating views from thousands of people ... how confusing must that be?? Who is she to believe? John is maybe the person she wants to believe most of all (and the person she should believe) but as he is not speaking up publically (although he may be trying to contact her in private - we don't know) to deny these allegations to HER (yes he tweeted FALSE but nothing was directed to her and she can't tweet him directly as she's still blocked) so there will still be doubts inside.
A sincere apology is owed to John from all those who have bought into these lies - definitely. But I think in order for Josie to give him that unconditional apology ... I think she is waiting to hear from him first. Personally, I feel they each have things to apologise to the other for and I hope they do. They'll feel better for doing it too. (I probably have more to say but I'll zip it for now)
<---------- those can sum it up nicely!I'm back in business for a little while. Thanks to everyone for your PMs etc
You make me feel so very very loved!! Big smooches for you bunch of honeypies!I won't comment on the events earlier from the day as the time has past. But on the most recent of Josie's tweets - some I feel are being quite hard on her. Again, I don't agree with the medium she is using to express her thoughts but I GET her! I do. If i was in her position - a young woman broken up with the man I thought I'd spend the rest of my life with, surrounded by those who are tormenting her with CRAP knowing the emotional turmoil she is in, being told 'revelations' that apparently John not only has a new girlfriend but cheated on her for months (we know this is not the case) ... I wouldn't have even half as much restraint as she has had!! Considering what she believes to have happened she could have said some truly naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasty things and I would have done. (I'm immature and irrational like that) Put yourself in Josie's shoes. And put yourself in John's shoes.
Poor Josie. Poor John. John too has been slandered publically and even worse (probably the biggest knife to his heart) is that his former girlfriend who he loved/loves so much was convinced by these same rumours (which were NOTHING more than that!) by those who delight in stirring! I feel for them both very verrrrrry much
Josie did apologise - yes she said 'if' I don't really think that's a big deal. Her apology is valid if it is not true but only conditional on the basis that it is lies. (does that even make sense? I'm sorry if it doesn't .. it did in my lil pea of a brain) Some say she is a fool for this - but IF it turned out to be true and she'd apologised wholeheartedly and even professed some sort of feelings for John - how SILLY would she look and feel then??
I understand why she used the word 'if' - one tiny little word has been condemned by lots (not so much on here but twitter certainly) It doesn't suggest that she does not mean her apology but it covers her looking more foolish if it is revealed to be TRUE. Things are not going to make sense in her head as she is hearing thousands of alternating views from thousands of people ... how confusing must that be?? Who is she to believe? John is maybe the person she wants to believe most of all (and the person she should believe) but as he is not speaking up publically (although he may be trying to contact her in private - we don't know) to deny these allegations to HER (yes he tweeted FALSE but nothing was directed to her and she can't tweet him directly as she's still blocked) so there will still be doubts inside.
A sincere apology is owed to John from all those who have bought into these lies - definitely. But I think in order for Josie to give him that unconditional apology ... I think she is waiting to hear from him first. Personally, I feel they each have things to apologise to the other for and I hope they do. They'll feel better for doing it too. (I probably have more to say but I'll zip it for now)
I wasn't waiting, I had just multi quoted a post in the last thread and it said the thread had closed. I'll be posting it in a sec. I'm sure y'all are waiting with baited breathe! 
I'll be posting it in a sec. I'm sure y'all are waiting with baited breathe!
Originally Posted by bblover:
“New thread
I hope Jose can think a bit logically about this.”
“New thread
I hope Jose can think a bit logically about this.”
Hi BB
i do too, i don't think she is in right frame of mind at mo...can't say i blame her......i don't think some of those around her help.....
i know if this was my friend whatever i thought of John i would try to calm her down not make the matter worse.....
Originally Posted by conchie:
“Margas
playing the victim. hahaha. desperate cry for attention.
Oh dear !”
“Margas
playing the victim. hahaha. desperate cry for attention.
Oh dear !”
Originally Posted by conchie:
“Margas
so it's not ME thats playing the victim. I don't crave the attention that much. Talk about needy.”
“Margas
so it's not ME thats playing the victim. I don't crave the attention that much. Talk about needy.”
Originally Posted by Divine80:
“of course, he is referring to her, that is the they tweet so no one we actually know who they are talking about.”
“of course, he is referring to her, that is the they tweet so no one we actually know who they are talking about.”
Originally Posted by Wendilums:
“No Sue, his tweets were towards Kim Duthwie who is an attention seeking Australian girl who messed with Oz footballers to get attention and money. He's got a big hate thing going on with her. Peeps immediately thought he was refering to our Josie Jo and it's spiralled from there.
Wendy x”
“No Sue, his tweets were towards Kim Duthwie who is an attention seeking Australian girl who messed with Oz footballers to get attention and money. He's got a big hate thing going on with her. Peeps immediately thought he was refering to our Josie Jo and it's spiralled from there.
Wendy x”
Of course Margas was referring to Josie. Please. People who think these generic tweets aren't, are blind. So was his tweet the other day about December was not about Josie either?
And when he talked about that Kim person, he named her. He didn't have generic tweets about her. He wanted her to know it was about her. He did the generic tweet "to" Nathan as well when Nathan went nuts last week.
A question I wanted to ask before which bears no gathering here, but where else am I going to ask it. Do the men this Kim person is involved with have no responsibility for their actions? I'm just curious.
Originally Posted by ceeb:
“This always seems to happen. Everyone is calm. It seems like there is peace on twitter then someone has to get a dig in. They should grow up.”
“This always seems to happen. Everyone is calm. It seems like there is peace on twitter then someone has to get a dig in. They should grow up.”
YES. It was all calm and then someone else needs to stir it up again. It's ridiculous.
Originally Posted by Divine80:
“I hope this was not a set up by the loys. I remember qwerty saying something like; "I hope Josie does not fall into the trap John is setting for her.”
“I hope this was not a set up by the loys. I remember qwerty saying something like; "I hope Josie does not fall into the trap John is setting for her.”
I sincerely hope not. Because that would be more sick than anything that has happened so far.
Originally Posted by SuzyLD:
“Been away for a bit. Just jumping straight in. Can I just ask cuz i'm not following what's going on on twitter, but does Turtle seem concerned at all that someone is starting rumours about members of his family? I don't mean the spreading of the rumours or the believing of them, I mean the actual source of them?”
“Been away for a bit. Just jumping straight in. Can I just ask cuz i'm not following what's going on on twitter, but does Turtle seem concerned at all that someone is starting rumours about members of his family? I don't mean the spreading of the rumours or the believing of them, I mean the actual source of them?”
Nope. Just in outing Josie.
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“I agree, I read those tweets to that woman when Clazza pointed them out, they were as nastier than most hate tweets sent to John and Josie, and they really shocked me, the things he said in them. Nasty stuff.”
“I agree, I read those tweets to that woman when Clazza pointed them out, they were as nastier than most hate tweets sent to John and Josie, and they really shocked me, the things he said in them. Nasty stuff.”
But he named her then. These directed at no one are not about her. He wants that girl to know he's talking about her.
Originally Posted by Divine80:
“My question is, why would ST tell someone not to leave twitter that it will be fun as of last week and all these are happening this week he was referring to? Has Josie been setup? Still asking.”
“My question is, why would ST tell someone not to leave twitter that it will be fun as of last week and all these are happening this week he was referring to? Has Josie been setup? Still asking.”
I know. This keeps creeping up. Again, I sincerely hope not.
In BB Josie told us, as we all knew already, that she thinks with her heart and not her head. I wish she would start thinking with her head.
Originally Posted by HailHenrik:
“completely agree. not a 3 or 4 day break like the last one but a proper holiday for a few weeks to try and get herself together again”
“completely agree. not a 3 or 4 day break like the last one but a proper holiday for a few weeks to try and get herself together again”
I agree 4 days is not enough 4 weeks maybe. I had a breakdown after my marriage ended and its not nice and I see the same signs in Josie I hope she ok and I am also going to back up lou last post I dont think John needs to explain anything but I do think they need to talk just to be able to remember each other how they was and not how they are now.xx
Originally Posted by bblover:
“New thread
I hope Jose can think a bit logically about this.”
“New thread
I hope Jose can think a bit logically about this.”
I do too. I don't know how she is going to find that logic when her mind is in meltdown though
I think she needs another heart to heart with Aunty Kay.
Pickles .http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgssLJm5eaQ.
I brought it back over so you can feel that emotion time and time again. Hands in the air.
I brought it back over so you can feel that emotion time and time again. Hands in the air.
Josiestweet Josie Gibson
Omg I just seen a motorbike man go straight over a taxi door as passengers got out in the middle of the road. Wow. Poor little fella.
Omg I just seen a motorbike man go straight over a taxi door as passengers got out in the middle of the road. Wow. Poor little fella.
Trust me to get distracted by a steady hand game 
Been waiting all day for change over Well done ferfer
Josiestweet Josie Gibson
Omg I just seen a motorbike man go straight over a taxi door as passengers got out in the middle of the road. Wow. Poor little fella.
Been waiting all day for change over Well done ferfer Josiestweet Josie Gibson
Omg I just seen a motorbike man go straight over a taxi door as passengers got out in the middle of the road. Wow. Poor little fella.
Originally Posted by CheekySAUCISSON:
“..........................
A sincere apology is owed to John from all those who have bought into these lies - definitely. But I think in order for Josie to give him that unconditional apology ... I think she is waiting to hear from him first. Personally, I feel they each have things to apologise to the other for and I hope they do. They'll feel better for doing it too. (I probably have more to say but I'll zip it for now)”
“..........................
A sincere apology is owed to John from all those who have bought into these lies - definitely. But I think in order for Josie to give him that unconditional apology ... I think she is waiting to hear from him first. Personally, I feel they each have things to apologise to the other for and I hope they do. They'll feel better for doing it too. (I probably have more to say but I'll zip it for now)”
Hi!
But what has he done to deserve her believing this? Surely she should apologise for believing rumours - esp rumours which the source of have apologised!! and then if proof is given, she can fairly accuse??
Originally Posted by tallulah gosh:
“Yay congrats Ferfer”
“Yay congrats Ferfer
”
Originally Posted by CheekySAUCISSON:
“Congratsssssss Ferfs ”
“Congratsssssss Ferfs
”
Thank you, thank you. It takes a lot of skill and talent. I'm obviously blessed with both.
Originally Posted by bblover:
“New thread
I hope Jose can think a bit logically about this.”
“New thread
I hope Jose can think a bit logically about this.”
I do too.
But I'm not sure she will. I wonder what it would actually take for her to be able to actually move on.
She keeps saying that she is but it's clear she hasn't and probably wont for a while.
Right I know I said I was takin a break but I came on to some pms and had a look to see whats goin on.
I cant believe some people still think John owes Josie an explanation. I dont think he does tbh. Its not her whose a load of rumours spread bout them, its not her whose friends have had stuff wrongly said bout them, its not relatives of her friends who have been wrongly accused of something. I know she never started these rumours but she chose to believe them. She is, imo, the only person over here who truely knew him. Knew him on a deeper level and has said before that he would never cheat on her and now because some idiot on twitter tells her he cheated she believes it? Im really sorry but that to me is not a person who deserves an explanation for anything.
What upset me and annoyed me so much on here yesterday was that some people on here seemed to actually believe he could have cheated. Like they could believe that of the person theyve watched and appreciated since last summer. I know he has cheated on a gf before but that was that relationship, everyone on here is here for the same reason because the realtionship we saw develop in the BB house was so special. Does anyone think the John in that relationship would cheat? I dont.
Now before ya all start sayin shes upset, has people sayin stuff to her and whatever else just think how it must feel to be the people on the recievin end of all of this. Especially STC. John and JJ put themselves in position of bein in the public eye when they applied to be on BB but that poor girl didnt. Imagine ya cant even go visit your own family without stuff like this happenin because your cousin happens to be friends with someone who was on BB.
I like Josie, dont get me wrong, I really do and I do feel sorry for all of this goin on but I just think because of whats gone on John doesnt owe her an explanation.
Btw, that "apology" this mornin wasnt an apology at all imo.
Back to my break
Just bringin this over because the thread closed just after I posted it.
I cant believe some people still think John owes Josie an explanation. I dont think he does tbh. Its not her whose a load of rumours spread bout them, its not her whose friends have had stuff wrongly said bout them, its not relatives of her friends who have been wrongly accused of something. I know she never started these rumours but she chose to believe them. She is, imo, the only person over here who truely knew him. Knew him on a deeper level and has said before that he would never cheat on her and now because some idiot on twitter tells her he cheated she believes it? Im really sorry but that to me is not a person who deserves an explanation for anything.
What upset me and annoyed me so much on here yesterday was that some people on here seemed to actually believe he could have cheated. Like they could believe that of the person theyve watched and appreciated since last summer. I know he has cheated on a gf before but that was that relationship, everyone on here is here for the same reason because the realtionship we saw develop in the BB house was so special. Does anyone think the John in that relationship would cheat? I dont.
Now before ya all start sayin shes upset, has people sayin stuff to her and whatever else just think how it must feel to be the people on the recievin end of all of this. Especially STC. John and JJ put themselves in position of bein in the public eye when they applied to be on BB but that poor girl didnt. Imagine ya cant even go visit your own family without stuff like this happenin because your cousin happens to be friends with someone who was on BB.
I like Josie, dont get me wrong, I really do and I do feel sorry for all of this goin on but I just think because of whats gone on John doesnt owe her an explanation.
Btw, that "apology" this mornin wasnt an apology at all imo.
Back to my break
Just bringin this over because the thread closed just after I posted it.
Originally Posted by Izzie321:
“Hi!
But what has he done to deserve her believing this? Surely she should apologise for believing rumours - esp rumours which the source of have apologised!! and then if proof is given, she can fairly accuse??”
“Hi!
But what has he done to deserve her believing this? Surely she should apologise for believing rumours - esp rumours which the source of have apologised!! and then if proof is given, she can fairly accuse??”
I don't know
I wish she didn't believe it. I wish these lies hadn't been brought up and played all over twitter in the first place. I wish accusations were not made. I wish John and Josie would communicate how they felt TO each other and not over twitter. I wish those they know would not interfere. I wish so many things ... most of all that none of this crap had ever happened.
Originally Posted by CheekySAUCISSON:
“I do too. I don't know how she is going to find that logic when her mind is in meltdown though I think she needs another heart to heart with Aunty Kay.”
“I do too. I don't know how she is going to find that logic when her mind is in meltdown though
I think she needs another heart to heart with Aunty Kay.”
Yep!!
Salliestweets Sally F
@ @Josiestweet So while your watching, your stood twitting us or running to his aid? lol
@Josiestweet
Josie Gibson
@Salliestweets no they all started arguing I got a bit scared.
@ @Josiestweet
So while your watching, your stood twitting us or running to his aid? lol@Josiestweet
Josie Gibson
@Salliestweets no they all started arguing I got a bit scared.
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