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The John James & Josie Appreciation Thread (Part 173)
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wishit
08-05-2011
Originally Posted by lilywhite52:
“I agree 4 days is not enough 4 weeks maybe. I had a breakdown after my marriage ended and its not nice and I see the same signs in Josie I hope she ok and I am also going to back up lou last post I dont think John needs to explain anything but I do think they need to talk just to be able to remember each other how they was and not how they are now.xx”

They do need to talk but when? now or after series has aired, I think after series has aired then they can see where they went wrong.

If John is back in the uk, why now just as the series is about to air, I have a feeling today that he is actually still in oz or if he is here in London not Leicester.
ferfer
08-05-2011
Originally Posted by ceeb:
“I do too. But I'm not sure she will. I wonder what it would actually take for her to be able to actually move on. She keeps saying that she is but it's clear she hasn't and probably wont for a while.”

I think the series has to end. She'll be talking about it/him/them until that happens. When she doesn't have to talk about it, then it will die down.

I think it's good she's living on her own, because it gives her time to think. I mean, I hope that's good.

I wish the new BB started in June. That would take a lot of Twitter pressure off of her, because everyone would be focused on that instead of this mess.
bblover
08-05-2011
Originally Posted by xxLoopy_louxx:
“Right I know I said I was takin a break but I came on to some pms and had a look to see whats goin on.

I cant believe some people still think John owes Josie an explanation. I dont think he does tbh. Its not her whose a load of rumours spread bout them, its not her whose friends have had stuff wrongly said bout them, its not relatives of her friends who have been wrongly accused of something. I know she never started these rumours but she chose to believe them. She is, imo, the only person over here who truely knew him. Knew him on a deeper level and has said before that he would never cheat on her and now because some idiot on twitter tells her he cheated she believes it? Im really sorry but that to me is not a person who deserves an explanation for anything.

What upset me and annoyed me so much on here yesterday was that some people on here seemed to actually believe he could have cheated. Like they could believe that of the person theyve watched and appreciated since last summer. I know he has cheated on a gf before but that was that relationship, everyone on here is here for the same reason because the realtionship we saw develop in the BB house was so special. Does anyone think the John in that relationship would cheat? I dont.

Now before ya all start sayin shes upset, has people sayin stuff to her and whatever else just think how it must feel to be the people on the recievin end of all of this. Especially STC. John and JJ put themselves in position of bein in the public eye when they applied to be on BB but that poor girl didnt. Imagine ya cant even go visit your own family without stuff like this happenin because your cousin happens to be friends with someone who was on BB.

I like Josie, dont get me wrong, I really do and I do feel sorry for all of this goin on but I just think because of whats gone on John doesnt owe her an explanation.

Btw, that "apology" this mornin wasnt an apology at all imo.

Back to my break

Just bringin this over because the thread closed just after I posted it.”

Some common sense,like it.
peggysue38
08-05-2011
Josie's twitter buddy is not letting it rest!!!!

Retweeting turtles tweets from March!!!

THIS IS MADNESS.

Sexy_Turtle Sexy Turtle
by Catherined38
@ ahhhh home from a good day out with @TheMinZz and my cousin! Also got to see some of my turtle relatives at the zoo ohhh good times
20 Mar Favorite Retweet Reply »

Sexy_Turtle Sexy Turtle
by Catherined38
Suppose better get ready.. My cousin from England wants me To her To the zoo and the market.. So I better get my ass outta bed
19 Mar

Obviously don't believe turtle at all!!!

Sexy_Turtle Sexy Turtle
ok 1. jj is not with my cousin and never has been 2. she has nothing to do with this, so how bout u all leaver her alone stop believing lies
14 hours ago

I believe that her twitter buddy might actually be with Josie. I think not only are her twitter buddies going to Loose Women with her tomorrow but staying with her to watch the show at night too.

I really feel for Josie. She is being fed such nonsense on twitter and facebook.

Why can't John and Josie just talk to each other and be honest and open with each other.
Why, oh why, does it all have to be ending like this..............
CheekySAUCISSON
08-05-2011
Originally Posted by xxLoopy_louxx:
“Right I know I said I was takin a break but I came on to some pms and had a look to see whats goin on.

I cant believe some people still think John owes Josie an explanation. I dont think he does tbh. Its not her whose a load of rumours spread bout them, its not her whose friends have had stuff wrongly said bout them, its not relatives of her friends who have been wrongly accused of something. I know she never started these rumours but she chose to believe them. She is, imo, the only person over here who truely knew him. Knew him on a deeper level and has said before that he would never cheat on her and now because some idiot on twitter tells her he cheated she believes it? Im really sorry but that to me is not a person who deserves an explanation for anything.

What upset me and annoyed me so much on here yesterday was that some people on here seemed to actually believe he could have cheated. Like they could believe that of the person theyve watched and appreciated since last summer. I know he has cheated on a gf before but that was that relationship, everyone on here is here for the same reason because the realtionship we saw develop in the BB house was so special. Does anyone think the John in that relationship would cheat? I dont.

Now before ya all start sayin shes upset, has people sayin stuff to her and whatever else just think how it must feel to be the people on the recievin end of all of this. Especially STC. John and JJ put themselves in position of bein in the public eye when they applied to be on BB but that poor girl didnt. Imagine ya cant even go visit your own family without stuff like this happenin because your cousin happens to be friends with someone who was on BB.

I like Josie, dont get me wrong, I really do and I do feel sorry for all of this goin on but I just think because of whats gone on John doesnt owe her an explanation.

Btw, that "apology" this mornin wasnt an apology at all imo.

Back to my break

Just bringin this over because the thread closed just after I posted it.”

I totally hear you. Whether I was owed an explanation or not if I was Josie I would WANT one. I never thought that John had cheated on Josie. I think he loved her too much to even contemplate cheating.

Of course it must be HORRIBLE for John JJ and STC too! Regardless of any of us thinking John owes Josie an explanation or not - I think he WILL try to explain to her (if she will hear him out, that is ... because he is that kind of guy. I don't think he can bear for her to be thinking badly of him) I've explained my position on the apology and I stick by it.
mcworster
08-05-2011
I am astonished at the posts on the muckers forever site. I now see where Josies twitter post came from , why she is soooo swayed by people she doesnt know and thier opinion is beyond me. I only joined today but cannot stay on that site,these "muckers" who say they love Josie and support her need to look at their reasons for doing so, they have clearly unsettled her again and deliberately done so as well. well done them....Apologies to anyone who isa member and supports josie in a positive way.
Daisy_M
08-05-2011
Originally Posted by peggysue38:
“Josie's twitter buddy is not letting it rest!!!!

Retweeting turtles tweets from March!!!

THIS IS MADNESS.

Sexy_Turtle Sexy Turtle
by Catherined38
@ ahhhh home from a good day out with @TheMinZz and my cousin! Also got to see some of my turtle relatives at the zoo ohhh good times
20 Mar Favorite Retweet Reply »

Sexy_Turtle Sexy Turtle
by Catherined38
Suppose better get ready.. My cousin from England wants me To her To the zoo and the market.. So I better get my ass outta bed
19 Mar

Obviously don't believe turtle at all!!!

Sexy_Turtle Sexy Turtle
ok 1. jj is not with my cousin and never has been 2. she has nothing to do with this, so how bout u all leaver her alone stop believing lies
14 hours ago

I believe that her twitter buddy might actually be with Josie. I think not only are her twitter buddies going to Loose Women with her tomorrow but staying with her to watch the show at night too.

I really feel for Josie. She is being fed such nonsense on twitter and facebook.

Why can't John and Josie just talk to each other and be honest and open with each other.
Why, oh why, does it all have to be ending like this..............”

She is basically confirming what Turtle already said this morning - his cousin was in Oz in March, not December. John was in the UK in March. Don't know what point she's trying to make.
ferfer
08-05-2011
Originally Posted by peggysue38:
“Josie's twitter buddy is not letting it rest!!!!

Retweeting turtles tweets from March!!!

THIS IS MADNESS.

Sexy_Turtle Sexy Turtle
by Catherined38
@ ahhhh home from a good day out with @TheMinZz and my cousin! Also got to see some of my turtle relatives at the zoo ohhh good times
20 Mar Favorite Retweet Reply »

Sexy_Turtle Sexy Turtle
by Catherined38
Suppose better get ready.. My cousin from England wants me To her To the zoo and the market.. So I better get my ass outta bed
19 Mar

Obviously don't believe turtle at all!!!

Sexy_Turtle Sexy Turtle
ok 1. jj is not with my cousin and never has been 2. she has nothing to do with this, so how bout u all leaver her alone stop believing lies
14 hours ago

I believe that her twitter buddy might actually be with Josie. I think not only are her twitter buddies going to Loose Women with her tomorrow but staying with her to watch the show at night too.

I really feel for Josie. She is being fed such nonsense on twitter and facebook.

Why can't John and Josie just talk to each other and be honest and open with each other.
Why, oh why, does it all have to be ending like this..............”

Someone tell Catherine that she is NOT a friend of Josie to keep this going. There are more choice words I would use as well. Feel free to use them on my behalf.
bblover
08-05-2011
Originally Posted by CheekySAUCISSON:
“I do too. I don't know how she is going to find that logic when her mind is in meltdown though I think she needs another heart to heart with Aunty Kay.”

Will she listen?

Originally Posted by wongos123:
“Hi BB
i do too, i don't think she is in right frame of mind at mo...can't say i blame her......i don't think some of those around her help.....

i know if this was my friend whatever i thought of John i would try to calm her down not make the matter worse.....”

She is 26,she has a mind of her own...that's the girl i saw on BB..
lerdie
08-05-2011
I think Josie might still think John is over for STC because one of her friends/fans has retweeted ST tweet about going out with his cousin on 20th march, this was only six days before he went home so maybe they think she was there when he went home
gussiecat
08-05-2011
Originally Posted by peggysue38:
“Josie's twitter buddy is not letting it rest!!!!

Retweeting turtles tweets from March!!!

THIS IS MADNESS.

Sexy_Turtle Sexy Turtle
by Catherined38
@ ahhhh home from a good day out with @TheMinZz and my cousin! Also got to see some of my turtle relatives at the zoo ohhh good times
20 Mar Favorite Retweet Reply »

Sexy_Turtle Sexy Turtle
by Catherined38
Suppose better get ready.. My cousin from England wants me To her To the zoo and the market.. So I better get my ass outta bed
19 Mar

Obviously don't believe turtle at all!!!

Sexy_Turtle Sexy Turtle
ok 1. jj is not with my cousin and never has been 2. she has nothing to do with this, so how bout u all leaver her alone stop believing lies
14 hours ago

I believe that her twitter buddy might actually be with Josie. I think not only are her twitter buddies going to Loose Women with her tomorrow but staying with her to watch the show at night too.

I really feel for Josie. She is being fed such nonsense on twitter and facebook.

Why can't John and Josie just talk to each other and be honest and open with each other.
Why, oh why, does it all have to be ending like this..............”

Doesnt this particular twitter buddy have children and a teaching job? Surely she cant be taking time off from both again?
conchie
08-05-2011
Considering all the melodrama, its very very strange that Sam Dean is making no comment at all on twitter, even though he is back. The king of gossip and he is saying nothing ??? Unless he is saying a lot....under his alter ego.... still have not outruled him from the qwerty investigation.

Josie should step away from this entity.... ************** whoever it is.... who caused such trouble yesterday. Instead she is telling him today he has no need to apologise !!!!!!!!!!!
ceeb
08-05-2011
Nice posting as usual cheeky

Well done on being first Ferf I take it that's quite an accomplishment?
Rubberduck_mel
08-05-2011
I dont believe the girlfriend thing but IF it is true whats more believeable is if STC was still there when John returned athe end of March, which seems likey going by tweets. So IF there is someothing going on with them i believe there still in Oz
But sexy turtle said that john has never been with her
gussiecat
08-05-2011
Or do her retweets mean it couldnt have been STC as she wasnt there till March? Not in Dec. So is she saying they were all lies which we now know anyway?
sammm16
08-05-2011
Originally Posted by peggysue38:
“Josie's twitter buddy is not letting it rest!!!!

Retweeting turtles tweets from March!!!

THIS IS MADNESS.

Sexy_Turtle Sexy Turtle
by Catherined38
@ ahhhh home from a good day out with @TheMinZz and my cousin! Also got to see some of my turtle relatives at the zoo ohhh good times
20 Mar Favorite Retweet Reply »

Sexy_Turtle Sexy Turtle
by Catherined38
Suppose better get ready.. My cousin from England wants me To her To the zoo and the market.. So I better get my ass outta bed
19 Mar


Obviously don't believe turtle at all!!!

Sexy_Turtle Sexy Turtle
ok 1. jj is not with my cousin and never has been 2. she has nothing to do with this, so how bout u all leaver her alone stop believing lies

14 hours ago

I believe that her twitter buddy might actually be with Josie. I think not only are her twitter buddies going to Loose Women with her tomorrow but staying with her to watch the show at night too.

I really feel for Josie. She is being fed such nonsense on twitter and facebook.

Why can't John and Josie just talk to each other and be honest and open with each other.
Why, oh why, does it all have to be ending like this..............”

I may have got Catherine wrong here, but isn't that the point she's trying to make? That actually his cousin was in oz in march, not December.
wongos123
08-05-2011
Originally Posted by CheekySAUCISSON:
“Alright loves? I think I'm up to date with all the goings on thus far today. Some ups and downs again, I see. I won't be making my thoughts manifest on Mr Marky as I try to refrain from profranities <---------- those can sum it up nicely!

I'm back in business for a little while. Thanks to everyone for your PMs etc You make me feel so very very loved!! Big smooches for you bunch of honeypies!

I won't comment on the events earlier from the day as the time has past. But on the most recent of Josie's tweets - some I feel are being quite hard on her. Again, I don't agree with the medium she is using to express her thoughts but I GET her! I do. If i was in her position - a young woman broken up with the man I thought I'd spend the rest of my life with, surrounded by those who are tormenting her with CRAP knowing the emotional turmoil she is in, being told 'revelations' that apparently John not only has a new girlfriend but cheated on her for months (we know this is not the case) ... I wouldn't have even half as much restraint as she has had!! Considering what she believes to have happened she could have said some truly naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasty things and I would have done. (I'm immature and irrational like that) Put yourself in Josie's shoes. And put yourself in John's shoes.

Poor Josie. Poor John. John too has been slandered publically and even worse (probably the biggest knife to his heart) is that his former girlfriend who he loved/loves so much was convinced by these same rumours (which were NOTHING more than that!) by those who delight in stirring! I feel for them both very verrrrrry much

Josie did apologise - yes she said 'if' I don't really think that's a big deal. Her apology is valid if it is not true but only conditional on the basis that it is lies. (does that even make sense? I'm sorry if it doesn't .. it did in my lil pea of a brain) Some say she is a fool for this - but IF it turned out to be true and she'd apologised wholeheartedly and even professed some sort of feelings for John - how SILLY would she look and feel then??

I understand why she used the word 'if' - one tiny little word has been condemned by lots (not so much on here but twitter certainly) It doesn't suggest that she does not mean her apology but it covers her looking more foolish if it is revealed to be TRUE. Things are not going to make sense in her head as she is hearing thousands of alternating views from thousands of people ... how confusing must that be?? Who is she to believe? John is maybe the person she wants to believe most of all (and the person she should believe) but as he is not speaking up publically (although he may be trying to contact her in private - we don't know) to deny these allegations to HER (yes he tweeted FALSE but nothing was directed to her and she can't tweet him directly as she's still blocked) so there will still be doubts inside.

A sincere apology is owed to John from all those who have bought into these lies - definitely. But I think in order for Josie to give him that unconditional apology ... I think she is waiting to hear from him first. Personally, I feel they each have things to apologise to the other for and I hope they do. They'll feel better for doing it too. (I probably have more to say but I'll zip it for now)”

Hi Cheeky glad to see you back,love your posts.

I agree think she still doesn't know what to believe and who can blame her with the rubbish been spouted at her.

An apology is def owned John
tallulah gosh
08-05-2011
Originally Posted by peggysue38:
“Josie's twitter buddy is not letting it rest!!!!

Retweeting turtles tweets from March!!!

THIS IS MADNESS.

Sexy_Turtle Sexy Turtle
by Catherined38
@ ahhhh home from a good day out with @TheMinZz and my cousin! Also got to see some of my turtle relatives at the zoo ohhh good times
20 Mar Favorite Retweet Reply »

Sexy_Turtle Sexy Turtle
by Catherined38
Suppose better get ready.. My cousin from England wants me To her To the zoo and the market.. So I better get my ass outta bed
19 Mar

Obviously don't believe turtle at all!!!

Sexy_Turtle Sexy Turtle
ok 1. jj is not with my cousin and never has been 2. she has nothing to do with this, so how bout u all leaver her alone stop believing lies
14 hours ago

I believe that her twitter buddy might actually be with Josie. I think not only are her twitter buddies going to Loose Women with her tomorrow but staying with her to watch the show at night too.

I really feel for Josie. She is being fed such nonsense on twitter and facebook.

Why can't John and Josie just talk to each other and be honest and open with each other.
Why, oh why, does it all have to be ending like this..............”

I don't think they are together today.
kfb
08-05-2011
Originally Posted by xxLoopy_louxx:
“Right I know I said I was takin a break but I came on to some pms and had a look to see whats goin on.

I cant believe some people still think John owes Josie an explanation. I dont think he does tbh. Its not her whose a load of rumours spread bout them, its not her whose friends have had stuff wrongly said bout them, its not relatives of her friends who have been wrongly accused of something. I know she never started these rumours but she chose to believe them. She is, imo, the only person over here who truely knew him. Knew him on a deeper level and has said before that he would never cheat on her and now because some idiot on twitter tells her he cheated she believes it? Im really sorry but that to me is not a person who deserves an explanation for anything.

What upset me and annoyed me so much on here yesterday was that some people on here seemed to actually believe he could have cheated. Like they could believe that of the person theyve watched and appreciated since last summer. I know he has cheated on a gf before but that was that relationship, everyone on here is here for the same reason because the realtionship we saw develop in the BB house was so special. Does anyone think the John in that relationship would cheat? I dont.

Now before ya all start sayin shes upset, has people sayin stuff to her and whatever else just think how it must feel to be the people on the recievin end of all of this. Especially STC. John and JJ put themselves in position of bein in the public eye when they applied to be on BB but that poor girl didnt. Imagine ya cant even go visit your own family without stuff like this happenin because your cousin happens to be friends with someone who was on BB.

I like Josie, dont get me wrong, I really do and I do feel sorry for all of this goin on but I just think because of whats gone on John doesnt owe her an explanation.

Btw, that "apology" this mornin wasnt an apology at all imo.

Back to my break

Just bringin this over because the thread closed just after I posted it.”

Hooray, Lou, you're back. Mwah, mwah - god, I never do that, Lou - whatever's got into me. Agree with you 100% of course.
Kay xx
CheekySAUCISSON
08-05-2011
Originally Posted by bblover:
“Will she listen?”

I'm not sure. But she is the one person Josie trusts more than ANYONE in the world. Surely she can make her see some sense? I hope she can.
Jade =)
08-05-2011
Originally Posted by ferfer:
“First! Party time! Excellent!”

Well done ferfer!

Originally Posted by CheekySAUCISSON:
“Alright loves? I think I'm up to date with all the goings on thus far today.

I'm back in business for a little while. Thanks to everyone for your PMs etc You make me feel so very very loved!! Big smooches for you bunch of honeypies!
”

Yayyy! Cheeky's back
sammm16
08-05-2011
Nice to have you back Cheeky and Lou xx
peggysue38
08-05-2011
http://www.nowmagazine.co.uk/

Check out the poll half way down on the right hand side.

Is John James a b**tard for flying back to the UK to see his new girlfriend?
ceeb
08-05-2011
Originally Posted by mcworster:
“I am astonished at the posts on the muckers forever site. I now see where Josies twitter post came from , why she is soooo swayed by people she doesnt know and thier opinion is beyond me. I only joined today but cannot stay on that site,these "muckers" who say they love Josie and support her need to look at their reasons for doing so, they have clearly unsettled her again and deliberately done so as well. well done them....Apologies to anyone who isa member and supports josie in a positive way.”

What's got to you? The FB pages move so fast it's hard to see it all. I posted on there earlier about Marky being an idiot then the post got lost somewhere with other people posting.
JJJ lover
08-05-2011
I'm going off for a bit.

I feel for them both but am getting a bit sick of the whole mess.

Pointless accusations based on no proof.

John's obviously got his own agenda for his silence but we'll have to wait until he's ready to do what he's got to do.

I need a little break from the situation.
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