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Thing is this isnt casualty or a documentry its a ficton show. I do understand where people are coming from but if we took everything litreley then we would never watch the show!!!
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Not the point, it is unlikely he would have survived the technique but this is Hollywood CPR, some suspension of disbelief is in order I feel!
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I've got it!
The techniques Rory taught her were out of date because he qualified in 1990!
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also did you see the way they tried to open the sails in a storm it would have ripped the sails apart.
Also did you see the way they all had nice teeth also did you see the way amy suddenly became a sword fighter also did you see the way the woman with an eye patch turned up on a boat also did you see the way there was an alien on a pirate ship.... COME ON GUYS ITS FICTION!!!!!!! Actually they didn't ![]() (Lee Ross' teeth were all bad ). I can't believe my lovely Kenny has turned bad .Generally, I don't expect these things to be right (maybe in a medical drama, but not here) .Anyway, I don't know how to give CPR, but I would have given Rory CPR without any questions asked ![]() .
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I dunno, that Amy gets lots of things wrong.
Last series (young) Amelia got it for boiling baked beans, this series it is incorrect CPR. Someone send the girl back to school! |
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I dunno, that Amy gets lots of things wrong.
Last series (young) Amelia gets got it for boiling baked beans, this series it is incorrect CPR. Someone send the girl back to school!
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Being a medical professional does not make you knowledgable in first aid, as well you know! I am a first aid instructor and have been 20years for SJA. I have never known any case where a rib cage is broken in CPR, it just does not happen in properly administered CPR. And that web page simply says that bty performing CPR with more that 125 pound of pressure can increase the risk of fracture...any pressure can increase the risk of fracture depending on the circumstances, but this is not par for the course. Bottom line, you do not have to break someone's rib cage to prove that CPR is done correctly. It is a myth that this happens, and it happens in only very small minority of cases when there are specific reasons for it to happen. I am leaving the thread, but only because its getting silly in here! |
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Actually they didn't
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Generally, I don't expect these things to be right (maybe in a medical drama, but not here)
.Anyway, I don't know how to give CPR, but I would have given Rory CPR without any questions asked ![]() . |
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Originally Posted by LInk
What if I crack a rib when I do CPR?
Frequently ribs are broken with the pressure CPR places on the sternum. Some studies quote up to 30% of cardiac arrest victims have broken ribs as a result of CPR. This happens more frequently the older the victim since the cartilage is less compliant and the bones more easily crackable. But remember, it's better to have a cracked rib than be dead. You should leave, you are embarrassing yourself
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Before I comment, and I am bad at reading the signs, can someone confirm if this is a joke thread
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It seems we reach a new low on here with every episode that airs
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So your're a first aider and a medical professional.
Being a medical professional does not make you knowledgable in first aid, as well you know! I am a first aid instructor and have been 20years for SJA. I have never known any case where a rib cage is broken in CPR, it just does not happen in properly administered CPR. And that web page simply says that bty performing CPR with more that 125 pound of pressure can increase the risk of fracture...any pressure can increase the risk of fracture depending on the circumstances, but this is not par for the course. Bottom line, you do not have to break someone's rib cage to prove that CPR is done correctly. It is a myth that this happens, and it happens in only very small minority of cases when there are specific reasons for it to happen. I am leaving the thread, but only because its getting silly in here! |
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I'm sorry if there's already a thread on this, but I couldn't find one - I was shocked to see such an inaccurate portrayal of CPR in Doctor Who of all places, whose primary audience will have no first aid training. Anyone young watching is likely to imitate what is seen in a real-life resuscitation situation with no further knowledge to replace it for years yet, and the CPR Amy was doing would not maximise chances of survival.
The rhythm was wrong, there were no initial rescue breaths at the start (ESSENTIAL for drowning victims) and instead of the usual 30-2 pattern advised by Red Cross, SJA and so on, she seemed to follow the 'dramatic licence' pattern with 6-1, though I should state the scene would have still been the same length had it shown slightly more correct CPR. I was half-expecting them to bring it up in Confidential, but it was glossed right over there too. I bring this up because I know shows like Casualty are pretty careful with first aid to only to show proper examples of first-aid techniques or not show them at all, as they are aware they can be imitated - as such it's a little surprising to see it done SO badly in a programme watched by a far wider audience with far less medical knowledge on average! In my opinion it should have been done properly or not at all - it should not be butchered for the sake of making a scene slightly more dramatic. Unless anyone can find a source that recommends the very strange compression cycle Amy used? ![]() |
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A person who has seen CPR performed on TV might well in time be required to perform it in a dangerous situation, even if they have no other training or knowledge of it. They won't be copying Amy's entirely, no, but the show gave the impression that it was the 'correct' way to do it, despite being quite fundamentally different than 'proper' CPR - showing incorrect CPR in place of 'proper' CPR only decreases the amount of people who can undertake it correctly in real life. How is that not a bad thing? Quote:
For all we know Amy has never had any first aid training, and wouldn't know what she was doing. She was doing the best that she knew and was lucky it worked at all.
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OF COURSE her CPR was bad, she had only been explained the procedure a few minutes before.
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When I watched the Eleventh Hour, I didn't question the Doctor writing a virus on a mobile phone, let alone being able to distribute it to all systems in the world instantly, let alone distribute it to things that don't even have a network connection. I took that as artistic license.
Karen Gillan is not going to pound Arthur Darvill's ribcage so hard that there's a chance of it breaking, or cut off his air supply while breathing into his lungs. Nor is the Doctor going to show the source code he developed on-screen. It's a fiction designed to progress the story. |
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It's a fiction designed to progress the story.
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This thread should have been called "Will someone please think of the children!!!"
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I am leaving the thread, but only because its getting silly in here!
"Fictional TV show doesn't show CPR 100% accurately!" Just sayin'!
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This thread should have been called "Will someone please think of the children!!!"
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This thread should have been called "Will someone please think of the children!!!"
Coincidentally enough I have already said thats not the reason why I have problems with her CPR. |
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This thread should have been called "Will someone please think of the children!!!"
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I thought you'd left this discussion? Any other wildly inaccurate medical advice to share with us?
![]() ![]() I left the thread because it was getting ridiculous, I just thought I'd see what other irrelevant comments were being posted. The thead is the forum eqivalent of a road crash. I stand by my previous posts and maintaim that your posts are very pompous. Who cares what you do for a living. |
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I thought you'd left this discussion? Any other wildly inaccurate medical advice to share with us?
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Yep, don't argue with SilentNate, he's a Medical Professional don't you know!
I left the thread because it was getting ridiculous, I just thought I'd see what other irrelevant comments were being posted. The thead is the forum eqivalent of a road crash. I stand by my previous posts and maintaim that your posts are very pompous. Who cares what you do for a living. ![]() I may be pompous buy you are very wrong
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