I think all the loys think she is milking it, maybe John thinks that, I see a lack of empathy, but I guess we may find out a bit more how they got to that point next week. It is hard to write when you are being careful isn't it?

Morning all, watched TSAJ earlier, thought it was ok, on par with the other doccumentary a few months ago.

arghhh I thought he wanted to watch the wheels go round and he wanted out of the circus, what were all those tweets about? he is getting right back on board puzzled from Cornwall xx

Morning Ian. I watched it this morning too and quite enjoyed it, not looking forward to next weeks though.

read on twitter that TSAJ got over 700k ratings!!!

I'm wondering if the watching the wheels go round thing was in regards to their relationship rather than the media. We all assumed he was talking about the media but perhaps he wasn't. Having said that, he's made his dislike of the media pretty clear in tweets. Maybe he just wanted one chance to tell his side of things.

I Don't feel sorry for either John or Josie, from watching the show last night they both give as much as they get.
I dont think John and his new girl will get serious, she will be a quick fling and nothing more, there will be way too much pressure on them for it to work over in the UK. I feel sorry for her tbh.
Who knows though.

is that good?

Again, you're still misunderstanding. It's not that he doesn't have a right to do an interview, it's just that he's always maintained that he wouldn't, and it wasn't what he wanted to do, but he has done one.

I agree, the whole things screams rebound to me. Hope this girl knows what she is getting into x

[quote=PICKLES60;49971617]I think all the loys think she is milking it, maybe John thinks that, I see a lack of empathy, but I guess we may find out a bit more how they got to that point next week. It is hard to write when you are being careful isn't it?[/QUOTE]

BIB, yep

I think next week it could be higher. The preview looked "bad", just what you need to "hook" an audience.

Don't like Johns C word at Josie

I didn't like that either, I hate that word.

That shocked me too. I hate that word too sammi. It's the only word they used to bleep out on the Osbournes!

Trying to be careful Samm bear with me, he is going to continue DJing with JJ. Industry records agency have started promoting them, his tweets stated that he doesn't want fame, he doesn't need the money and if he wants to keep this girl out of the spotlight, he would be better in Oz. Sadly I think he does want fame and spotlight in essence his old life back just without Josie. This might explain the deleting of all of those weird tweets.

Haha! It's disgusting, I don't see why either of them feel the need to use it tbh.

Morning guys, I don't really know what to say .. or where I should be posting now. I just wasn't expecting it at all I think I may flit between the three (if nobody minds very much) threads as I still love them both to bits. I'm just so sorry that love wasn't quite enough for John and Josie.

The timing does indeed SUCK but it was better for John to be honest. I didn't believe he would do an interview (but I won't condemn him for it) and I didn't believe he really would have a new girlfriend this quickly - but he does. I've accepted this. Not sure if Josie has quite got her head round it. They have both mentioned each other in magazines separately now and I hope they will leave it at that. I wish he had been more truthful with Josie along the way but maybe he couldn't bear hurting her .. or she wouldn't listen to him.

Nothing changes that they DID have something very special. It was a beautiful relationship and friendship to watch grow and develop on BB - we saw glimpses of magic. It IS a massive shame that is the way things have panned out - to the point where they don't like each other. I think that is the last thing they would have ever wanted. They were so so frightened in Big Brother of losing what they had inside the house. They didn't want anything to change. They have lost something good but it wasn't working for them, they weren't as happy as before. For things to have stayed as in BB they would have had to continue living confined in the BB house (asked for them to remove the cameras) but even then I'm not sure what would have happened.

I'm confused as to whether John does know what true love is. I think he loved Josie as a person with all his heart but wasn't IN love with her like he thought (or as much as he thought) he cared about her so much. Maybe he just falls in and out of love quicker than most. I was convinced he was heartbroken in Australia (perhaps this was me projecting how I thought he should be feeling) maybe he was purely angry with Josie. Lotsa maybes from me. The timings don't make much sense to me. John said Josie had the power to devastate him .. as it turns out I now believe he held a little more of the power to devastate Josie.

The new girlfriend: I hope they will make each other happy. She will need a lot of self-confidence to be able to deal with all the 'JJJ' frenzied fans ... plus twitter, dailymotion and youtube have endless references and tributes to John and Josie's relationship. I don't think I could handle knowing his past and reading the (wonderful) things John has said about Josie and to her (particularly in Big Brother) or being reminded constantly of the love they once shared. It's best that John does keep her out of the public eye as people will not take kindly to her if they discover who she is.

I want to continue to support and appreciate them separately - for the individuals that I believe them to be. I maintain that they have good hearts and that John thinks what he is doing is for the best and will make him happiest. Not sure what his immediate plans are now? Does he want to settle down with the new girlfriend here? Take her back to Australia? Does he want to DJ? Something else in the media industry? How does his Mum feel? Will it last? (personally I don't think it will. I know he has said she is the 'one' but I don't see how she really can be - this suddenly) Ooooh and didn't he say just before the original SandLoyyyys group was closed down on it that he DIDN'T have a girlfriend. (I think he said 'what girlfriend?' Maybe he was playing it down or the relationship hadn't progressed to that stage then)

The saddest thing to me right now is that while John happily snuggles up with his new woman (the way he used to with Josie) she is sleeping alone at night absolutely heartbroken I really hope she has people with her best interests at heart surrounding her now to support her. She'll need them more than ever now. What good is positive affirmation on twitter from people she does not know? She needs real love. I think it will take her a long time to get over this .. I hope her sparkle will return someday and that she will find someone who will love her for HER with all that they have.

Hmm I completely agree that DJing means he will be keeping himself in the spotlight. But it doesn't mean he will continue to keep himself in the media if that makes sense?

To be honest im not even sure its a real relationship maybe one plotted up by John and his Loys

Oh that is interesting

Really? I'm not sure John would risk lying to a magazine tbh.

picked up mag on way to college, i'm still . hard to find the words i wana say. i feel abit of an idiot for saying "john wouldnt come back and do a mag interview" when it was suggested on here he might do. I even said you cant just stop loving someone but for john to move on so quickly and love again.. ! maybe it is rebound but still... i'm shocked as hell.

i've always supported them both and never strayed to having a preferance but i dont know where to post right now. i'm angry at john and dunno if i even have a right to be because its his life an all.

I agree with you there

Why would they make one up though? I know you're gonna say "to annoy Josie" but really how would John benefit from that. He wouldn't in the slightest.