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Old 11-05-2011, 18:11
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I don't think her name really is Melody.

I wouldn't have drank the champagne because I'm tee total, let alone for religious reasons. I'd be disappointed if someone felt they were pooping a party for not drinking the champagne. Going straight to your room would be party pooping, but so long as you're joining in otherwise...
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Old 11-05-2011, 18:12
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Plus in a previous series I saw, I think it was Ghazal, drinking orange juice in a toast. I'm sure they already know the candidates' eating and drinking preferences before the show starts.
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Old 11-05-2011, 18:25
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I think in this day and age the producers would have checked stuff like "do you drink alcohol" as part of the pre-filming checks with each applicant. If Melonie / Melody didn't drink it would be known in advance and they'd either never have offered that as a prize or they would have had a special glass of non-alcholic fizz or even just orange juice there for her. It's not like it was a glass of fizz before some other entertainment, the fizz was the actual prize, they'd definitely have checked it with her in advance just like they'll have had to check what people are allergic to before setting up certain tasks.
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Old 11-05-2011, 18:33
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She has the whole privileged Iranian expat thing going on. There is a whole generation of very wealthy Iranians who left when the revolution happened in the 70s and their children tended to go to the best private schools and ended up with these posh English accents.

Here's Melody's company

http://inspirengage.com/about/melodys-bio

Her specialty seems to be motivational speaking aimed at young people - not as 'business-y' as I thought.
I had a wee lookie...LMFAO!!! she is '...one of the leading youth sector figures in the UK with an equally strong profile globally' ...so she needs apprentice because?!?

Oh and the real doozy - she has '...13 years experience in the youth sector...' The girl is 26!!!!!!!!!! Can you REALLY count your own youth as experience in the sector?????
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Old 11-05-2011, 18:36
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That's what I thought! If she was that bothered, she could have easily turned it down.
People lose massive kudos if they don't drink alcohol, its stupid. The peer pressure out there is massive. I've seen old people still make "like me" jokes about drinking alcohol.
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Old 11-05-2011, 18:37
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http://www.melodyhossaini.com/wp-con...ossaini-03.png

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Old 11-05-2011, 18:39
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There's a ring on her wedding finger, anyone know if she's married or engaged? Damn if she is!
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Old 11-05-2011, 18:47
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I know but drinking alcohol is a major no no. She did look uncomftablle when AS mentioned the prize and I read the look on her face as an instant decision to join in so she wouldn't be seen as a party pooper which is a shame people are made to feel like that just for not drinking alcohol.
Melody doesn't strike me as the type who is too shy to say what she really thinks. If she didn't want to drink, she wouldn't. They're all adults and considering they are going to be competing against each other on tasks and in the boardroom, I doubt a big deal would be made of her not having a drink if she didn't want one. It's the Apprentice, not Girls Gone Wild.
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Old 11-05-2011, 19:01
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People lose massive kudos if they don't drink alcohol, its stupid. The peer pressure out there is massive. I've seen old people still make "like me" jokes about drinking alcohol.
I gain nothing but respect because I decline it with assertiveness. It's how it's done.
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Old 11-05-2011, 19:06
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Melody doesn't strike me as the type who is too shy to say what she really thinks. If she didn't want to drink, she wouldn't. They're all adults and considering they are going to be competing against each other on tasks and in the boardroom, I doubt a big deal would be made of her not having a drink if she didn't want one. It's the Apprentice, not Girls Gone Wild.
With respect I have to say, c'mon think. Look at how keen she was, she really wants to do well on this and this isn't the case for all of them and previous candidates too.

Because she really wants to win it is why I think she may have decided to drink if its against her religion, assuming she is a muslim. Having said that, amybe she does drink anyway, but that is a total contradiction of the rules of being a muslim regardless if some break that rule or not.
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Old 11-05-2011, 19:07
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I gain nothing but respect because I decline it with assertiveness. It's how it's done.
I send you my props/respect too on that.
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Old 11-05-2011, 19:11
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With respect I have to say, c'mon think. Look at how keen she was, she really wants to do well on this and this isn't the case for all of them and previous candidates too.

Because she really wants to win it is why I think she may have decided to drink if its against her religion, assuming she is a muslim. Having said that, amybe she does drink anyway, but that is a total contradiction of the rules of being a muslim regardless if some break that rule or not.
I don't know any teetotaler who will have a drink just to fit in, (especially if it's for religious reasons). If you are a teetotaler you are used to saying "no" and sticking to "no". I'm not a teetotaler but I do go off drink for lent and sometimes just decide that I don't want to drink anymore. No amount of peer pressure will make me change my mind and to be honest, most people just accept it. If Melody didn't want to drink, she wouldn't. If you are not an alcohol drinker, it tastes rank and it's easier to say "no thank you" than to force it down.
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Old 11-05-2011, 19:20
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I don't know any teetotaler who will have a drink just to fit in, (especially if it's for religious reasons). If you are a teetotaler you are used to saying "no" and sticking to "no". I'm not a teetotaler but I do go off drink for lent and sometimes just decide that I don't want to drink anymore. No amount of peer pressure will make me change my mind and to be honest, most people just accept it. If Melody didn't want to drink, she wouldn't. If you are not an alcohol drinker, it tastes rank and it's easier to say "no thank you" than to force it down.
I've met a lot of people in my life who say they only drink because of the peer pressure and they actually can't stand the taste of alcohol.

I don't drink myself, but boy I've lost kudos/"respect" by those urging me to drink. They almost see it as a slight against them for not drinking!
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Old 11-05-2011, 20:08
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I've met a lot of people in my life who say they only drink because of the peer pressure and they actually can't stand the taste of alcohol.

I don't drink myself, but boy I've lost kudos/"respect" by those urging me to drink. They almost see it as a slight against them for not drinking!
I don't tend to get into situations where drinking is a 'requirement' for kudos ... yes that means hanging around less bars in general, but it's perhaps no surprise as they're less fun without the drink (I mean if something requires alcohol to make it fun ... it's not intrinsically a fun activity is it?). I have very nice friends who would never judge someone on their consumption preferences. Then again in the situation we're talking about, it's where you're lumped with people you've just met and this is exactly when the peer pressure situation applies!

But why assume that because she's Iranian that she's Muslim (especially as you have to be British nationality for this show, right)?

Also, if she was Muslim, it doesn't mean (especially as British citizen) she won't blur the lines between being dogmatic about it or not. I know lots of catholics and christians who have sex before marriage for example, and they still feel they're adhering to the religion.

On a sidenote, she's more likely to be Buddhist if she's had run ins with the Dalai Lama, no?
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Old 11-05-2011, 20:27
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People lose massive kudos if they don't drink alcohol, its stupid. The peer pressure out there is massive. I've seen old people still make "like me" jokes about drinking alcohol.
I've not noticed that, especially not on the apprentice. Like someone said, people have been offered other none alcoholic drinks before.

I think she is probably just a drinker- I thought that was obvious in how eagerly she quaffed down that champagne!

And if a persons religion was really important to them, they wouldn't let a bit of peer pressure stop them.
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Old 11-05-2011, 20:29
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I've not noticed that, especially not on the apprentice. Like someone said, people have been offered other none alcoholic drinks before.

I think she is probably just a drinker- I thought that was obvious in how eagerly she quaffed down that champagne!

And if a persons religion was really important to them, they wouldn't let a bit of peer pressure stop them.
Especially not Melody. She doesn't strike me as someone that will be pushed into anything by anyone!
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Old 11-05-2011, 20:34
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I've not noticed that, especially not on the apprentice. Like someone said, people have been offered other none alcoholic drinks before.

I think she is probably just a drinker- I thought that was obvious in how eagerly she quaffed down that champagne!

And if a persons religion was really important to them, they wouldn't let a bit of peer pressure stop them.


she couldn't get there fast enough!

bet she's a lush!

i wonder if her drunk voice is as awful!
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Old 11-05-2011, 23:23
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I've met a lot of people in my life who say they only drink because of the peer pressure and they actually can't stand the taste of alcohol.

I don't drink myself, but boy I've lost kudos/"respect" by those urging me to drink. They almost see it as a slight against them for not drinking!
Melody didn't look like she was forcing herself to drink the wine tonight when it tasted of success
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Old 12-05-2011, 00:55
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I don't tend to get into situations where drinking is a 'requirement' for kudos ... yes that means hanging around less bars in general, but it's perhaps no surprise as they're less fun without the drink (I mean if something requires alcohol to make it fun ... it's not intrinsically a fun activity is it?). I have very nice friends who would never judge someone on their consumption preferences. Then again in the situation we're talking about, it's where you're lumped with people you've just met and this is exactly when the peer pressure situation applies!

But why assume that because she's Iranian that she's Muslim (especially as you have to be British nationality for this show, right)?

Also, if she was Muslim, it doesn't mean (especially as British citizen) she won't blur the lines between being dogmatic about it or not. I know lots of catholics and christians who have sex before marriage for example, and they still feel they're adhering to the religion.
On a sidenote, she's more likely to be Buddhist if she's had run ins with the Dalai Lama, no?
Melody didn't look like she was forcing herself to drink the wine tonight when it tasted of success
I didn't say she was muslim, I was asking and then made further comments on a if basis, thats where assuming came in, wasn't saying she was muslim for sure as I don't know and it looks like no one else does either at the moment.

Religion and Nationality are 2 different things, but Iran is overwhelmigly a muslim country, I think its called now "The Islamic Republic Of Iran, so thats why I'm leaning towards she may be a muslim.

Having said that, she drank tonight too, so either she does this all the time or just wants to fit in no matter what. I said earlier, she may have mixed parentage and if she has, that could explain it more. Also in my experiences, the expat iranians I have met, most of them don't seem to practise their religion much anyway.
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Old 12-05-2011, 00:59
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Having said that, she drank tonight too, so either she does this all the time or just wants to fit in no matter what. I said earlier, she may have mixed parentage and if she has, that could explain it more. Also in my experiences, the expat iranians I have met, most of them don't seem to practise their religion much anyway.
So basically it was a case of much ado about nothing!
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Old 12-05-2011, 01:00
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I didn't say she was muslim, I was asking and then made further comments on a if basis, thats where assuming came in, wasn't saying she was muslim for sure as I don't know and it looks like no one else does either at the moment.

Religion and Nationality are 2 different things, but Iran is overwhelmigly a muslim country, I think its called now "The Islamic Republic Of Iran, so thats why I'm leaning towards she may be a muslim.

Having said that, she drank tonight too, so either she does this all the time or just wants to fit in no matter what. I said earlier, she may have mixed parentage and if she has, that could explain it more. Also in my experiences, the expat iranians I have met, most of them don't seem to practise their religion much anyway.
I imagine it's a mixed parentage, that managed to make me neither muslim nor roman catholic when arguably I ought to have been one!!

Well clarified - was just throwing some comments out there.
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Old 12-05-2011, 01:01
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So basically it was a case of much ado about nothing!
I didn't say that and wouldn't agree with that.
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Old 12-05-2011, 01:02
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I imagine it's a mixed parentage, that managed to make me neither muslim nor roman catholic when arguably I ought to have been one!!Well clarified - was just throwing some comments out there.
? Where talking about Melody here, are you Melody then?
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Old 12-05-2011, 01:05
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? Where talking about Melody here, are you Melody then?
I was stipulating via use of anecdote that mixed parentage tends to result in halfway-house as opposed to dogmatic beliefs more than two parents with very similar beliefs. Tends to. That does make sense.
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Old 12-05-2011, 01:09
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I didn't say that and wouldn't agree with that.
Of course not because that would mean admitting you were wrong. I saw her in the car, she wouldn't let herself be dragged into a situation and was very firm about that. The woman is fine. Melody drank because she wanted to, not because of some imaginary desire to fit in.
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