Blood and Oil's episodes have been cut from 13 to 10.

A lot of episode cuts this season. It seems networks want to spend less money as possible on these flops. But it also seems no one is willing to bite the bullet and actually cancel a show yet.

I was quite liking The Player as well. This week's episode was particularly entertaining, perhaps the most entertaining so far. Shame really, but on the back of ratings I'm not surprised. The show is a bizarre mash-up genrewise, but it is enjoyable if you don't take it too seriously.

Pleased for Limitless It's a shame (that word again!) It gets battered by generic so-so middle-of-the-road Chicago Fire. It deserves a better timeslot IMO.

Agree with you on Chicago PD, a show that seems to go nowhere. But for the whole Chicago set w Chicago F and Med it would've been cancelled a long time ago. I'm not Chicago Med will have many legs to run on. Chicago F does well because there isn't a show like - based on firemen/women. Medical and cop shows are ten-a-penny these days. Medical genre had its heyday in the 90s and early 2000s. Cop shows had theirs in the 70s, 80s and 90s. Until something new and unusual can be done with the genre as whole, only an imaginative show of that kind with a unique twist to it - E.g House - will ever be a breakout show within these two done-to-death genres.

Yeah, it's like the networks are hedging their bets. The ratings for the new shows haven't been spectacular or they have yet to grab viewers' imaginations. Bloodspot has good ratings, but it still feels stuck in procedural plodding whose energy is waiting to be released if only tatooed Jane Doe could remember who the hell she is and what's she doing in the last 20+ years she's been misding. Quantico is nothing more than a revelation of reveals and twists, I can't help feeling we might end up with something of a damp squib come the finale. What will it have going for it come the second season if it gets renewed? Blood and Oil is not out & out bad, yet it's not quite in mode of "it's so bad, it's good" either, through with a bit of a push it could do. The thing is, the show is so sincere in wanting to be Sunday night soap opera, I can't help but see elements of a daytime soap in it as well. The acting is not that good. And the writing for the characters screams "daytime soap", you are just waiting for that laugh-out moment that never comes because the show is trying too hard to become Dallas does North Dakota.

I have been reading online that Blood and Oil has been a victim of creative differences. The show we see now is not how it was originally imagined. It was meant to be a straight up drama. But ABC clashed with the showrunners and wanted it to be be more soapy with OMG moments like Scandal. So ABC got their way. With Revenge gone, they wanted another soap to take it's place. Sadly, it has back fired. Another issue is the dreadful performance of Blood and Oil is not helping Quantico at all. Quantico is far from the mega hit everyone predicted it would be. But it's doing average at best. But it needs a strong lead in or they should swap both shows around.

I couldn't disagree more. Chicago Fire is hardly groundbreaking but it's far from generic. How many shows are there about firefighters? None. Only before, there was the cable drama Rescue me. I would say it's spin-off shows Chicago PD and Chicago Med are generic.

Underneath it all, Limitless is a generic crime drama with a sci-fi/supernatural twist. All of which has been done several times before.

As I said, what makes Chicago Fire "different from" the Chicago trilogy staple and from most dramas we see on TV is the fact that it is about firefighters. There isn't any show that takes that as its subject matter. But when you look at its theme and plot structure it IS generic and middle-of-road, much like Chicago PD and Meds is (in the case of CPD) and will be (on the caee of CMed). CF does nothing new that we haven't or don't see in other comparable dramas that focus on medicine or the police. If Chicago Fire was centred on two or three female firefighters and did a kind of Cagney and Lacey type theme with it, with one of the females as Chief and the tables were turned and shaken up a little w/o having to reducing them to baby-makers and lonely *spinsters* looking for lurve and a maannn, then I would say it was unconventional. But it isn't. The generic conventions are just as soapy as Chicago PD except it has a lot more energy to it than its Chicago counter-part. As it is, Chicago Fire killed off its really interesting don't give-a-damn lesbian character, Shay. (Perhaps their only interesting character to date.) Her dynamic and friendship with Severide was so different and unusual. And it added so much to Severide as a character, and typically a good-looking, manly, heterosexual male. But they killed her off - quelle surprise! and so conventional and generic. And the writers have done nothing with Severide other than to have him look out for, rescue and have sex with beautiful blonde women. (Does that behaviour have anything to do with the loss of Shay? Is it as psychologically effecting as that? I doubt the writers will even go there. So again, if they don't, Severide is so generic, so conventional: single hsndsome man shags beautiful women. Yawn.) Gabby Dawson, the only female firefighter, is now pregnant and now has transferred to investigating arson, and this after all the writers put us through rooting for her as she was battling to become that rare species in an overwhelming male dominated profession: a woman firefighter. With her now pregnant, that characte- turn has become conventional and generic - here's a woman; what should we do with her; oh, I know, let's make her get pregnant. No doubt some way down the plot line she will lose the child anyway, whether she was fighting fires or not.

So, sorry, I hate to say it, but I don't agree with you on this, LM. Chicago Fire is generic and conventional when you break it down to its individual parts.

PS: Agree with on Limitless. But what makes it a little different cop shows is its underlying mystery sub-plot that functions outside the conventions of an ordinary "investigate and find the bad guy" cop show.

Yeah, I read one article online about B&O's backstage drama. I know the original show runner was removed but remains as exec producer. But thanks for putting more flesh on the bones . I didn't know, for instance, that what we are seeing isn't what it was meant to be. It certainly explains how jerky the whole drama feels. Don't know what the ABC exec are watching but those OMG moments are very meh, you could see and predict them a mile-off.

As for Quantico, I'm not sure a good lead-in would help it. There is something about it that just does not have me hooked as a viewer. It is not bad by any means, but it's execution of a HTGAWM type, with its use of flashbacks and plot/character twists to propel the story, is achingly dull and not shocking when the viewer kind of expects the narrative twist because THAT'S ALL IT DOES: pile on twists. Again. And again. And again. Ad infinitum. I kind of expect now for there to be more than what I watching because without the twists, there really is nothing going for it. It's just several shows rolled into one: The Fugitive, some 90s teen high school drama with a poorly executed HTGAWM style plot, all set in the FBI. Sad thing is they haven't made me that curious to know who framed Parrish. And part of me doesn't really care, because I would've have shot of most of the student FBI recruits a couple of episodes ago. Oh, and then there is her mysterious past to contend with on top of all that is mysteriously going on between with her mother, her FBI mentor Liam and her dead FBI dad. Oh, not to mention that the writers probably had to add the tale of Parrish's missing 9 years in India to account for real life Bollywood actress Payinka Chopra's Indian accent that keeps slipping in and out of the not-success American accent she is trying to convey. This show's got problems of its own that no good lead-in could help boot its ratings unfortunately.

No worries. It would be a boring place if we all shared the same opinions. You share interesting opinions.

TBS have cancelled Clipped after one season.

Haven't been that impressed with any of the new shows this year.Was most looking forward to Blood and Oil and Limitless but neither are what I was expecting.

At least a decent one is returning next month, 'Mom'. Love that show

Apart from scream queens which is an anthology anyway, I am not checking any new shows out until a renewal.

But if they are renewed,
I will watch Limitless, Quantico, Blindspot, Life In Pieces, Rosewood and The Muppet Show. Plus various midseason shows.

That's gotta hurt. This show is dead, and i'am not too disappointed. It hasn't really panned out as I expected.

But they are also doubling up on shows: Giving out 13 episode orders per show and billing them as 'event series'. What they really are trying to do is navigate through a antiquated tv model & take less risk.

I' don't think I've come across a show more deserving of cancellation. Terrible.

Agreed, having good old 'Norm' as a gay barber was never gonna work.

Wow, a real hatchet job on ABC here. Might not bother with Quantico now, every time I read something it puts me off even more.

Yeah, not a particularly kind opinion of the show, I know Put it this way, I doubt I would miss it if it got cancelled, not with the way it is going right now. But watch it for yourself, Hamlet, you might like it. It's just that for me there's not that much or enough urgency, kick or bite to it. But since ABC is the home of Shonda Rhimes, I'm not surprised the network execs love the show.

The problem is I would have to use iTunes for Quantico, I don't subscribe to any form of Alibi and I was going to, but yours is not the first less than glowing opinion I have read, seen or heard. So it is rapidly falling down my wish list. Even positive opinion have a hint of frustration or mocking as well.

TBH I'm not keen on plunging into anything new this season, maybe I'll save my money. Can't say I'm struggling for this to watch either, with what I do have access to.

Quite liked clipped, shame it has been cancelled.

Rosewood is utter crap imo one of the worst new shows.

It looks crap but i like to be proved wrong when it comes to television shows.

Well, I enjoy it!

I enjoy it also, it's not the greatest show around but it reminds me of Castle in its earlier seasons. With the state of Castle right now, Rosewood is a nice surprise this year .

I'm not quite sure what Yahoo's business model was - create a number of niche shows and then provide them for free via their website with minimal promotion?

I suppose we have to thank them that Community got another season; but deep down I wish it hadn't.

Other Space was good though.