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I also have to agree with comments regarding Cable. Cable is kicking major butt in television and has done for a long time but lately it is knocking every other show out the park. Game of thrones being the major player at the moment, and previously with Breaking Bad. I think about 70 per cent of the shows i watch at the moment, are from cable. I have cut a lot of ties from non-cable networks a lot this year.
The majority of shows that I watch are on cable, so that helps. Despite them cancelling Community, I have to give NBC a lot of credit for keeping low rated shows around longer than any of the other networks would. I doubt that either Parks and Rec or Hannibal would have lasted more than a season anywhere else. Likewise Friday Night Lights previously. |
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I've done well this year with Community being the only show that I watch thats been cancelled.
The majority of shows that I watch are on cable, so that helps. Despite them cancelling Community, I have to give NBC a lot of credit for keeping low rated shows around longer than any of the other networks would. I doubt that either Parks and Rec or Hannibal would have lasted more than a season anywhere else. Likewise Friday Night Lights previously. |
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Parenhood has been renewed. No word on episode order, but season 6 will be the final season
Suburgatory is officially being shopped to other networks. Although it was already known it was cancelled, NBC have decided to officially announce that Michael J Fox show has been cancelled. |
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I think it has got beyond a joke for American TV. At least shows on cable networks get given a chance most of the time regardless of average ratings.
However the standard networks have become a joke. It looks like hardly any new show made it onto a 2nd season. So the people who pick which shows go to a full series . I think that's unfair. The business model for network tv, is designed to make money from advertisement. Without it, they collapse. Cable is based on subscriptions fees from customers, which is how they're funded and survive. |
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I think that's unfair. The business model for network tv, is designed to make money from advertisement. Without it, they collapse. Cable is based on subscriptions fees from customers, which is how they're funded and survive.
Cable has taken over the water-cooler popular culture space that networks use to occupy. And the fact that cable shows have more freedom in what they can show doesn't help the networks either. |
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Problem with the network model is that IT IS collapsing around them in spectacular style. On demand and Netflix command a huge amount of viewership in the States, especially compared to here. Some cable tv shows get more viewers than that on the network channels. The Walking Dead and Housewives of Atlanta etc etc continue to out-rate network ratings.
Cable has taken over the water-cooler popular culture space that networks use to occupy. And the fact that cable shows have more freedom in what they can show doesn't help the networks either. |
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no surprise The Crazy Ones has gone.
SMG is a delight. but RW is now a caricature of himself. |
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no surprise The Crazy Ones has gone.
SMG is a delight. but RW is now a caricature of himself. |
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Yes if they keep cancelling shows too early they are going to make a self fulling prophecy, as viewers are not going to risk getting into a new show, so the rating will be low and it will be cancelled. And so viewers will have even less faith in the next show, which will get even lower ratings and be cancelled. Etc etc.
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I remember there being a load back in 2010. The media called it something along the lines of "cult cancellation" as tons of shows that had cult followings came to an end.
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Perhaps the ad funded network model is slowly dying and poor decisions by tv executives is accelerating an already existing trend?
A lot of the shows that have been axed haven't been that good in the end. Most I've only watched just to see how bad they are ala 'Crisis' and 'Revolution'. They've been trying to find the next 'Lost' and 'Friends' but have failed. They seem to learn too late what the problems are but keep making the same mistakes early on. |
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Well a good show does get the viewers so not sure if that is the reason.
A lot of the shows that have been axed haven't been that good in the end. Most I've only watched just to see how bad they are ala 'Crisis' and 'Revolution'. They've been trying to find the next 'Lost' and 'Friends' but have failed. They seem to learn too late what the problems are but keep making the same mistakes early on. |
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But will cables increasing popularity and high quality overtime undercut ,undermine and overshadow network tvs prestige in the long run?Much lower network ratings in the future may become the norm and hence create a vicious cycle?
They seem to be making a lot of them up as they go along rather than having a 3 or 4 season arc already written out. |
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Personally I blame the quality of recent shows (or lack of quality) and the spate of one season cancellations for lack of viewing figures on Network TV shows.
They seem to be making a lot of them up as they go along rather than having a 3 or 4 season arc already written out. I always say if you haven't got a good story to tell that really needs to be told and is a testament to the project, then don't bother. |
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Are financial troubles meaning this kind of axing "splurge" will become an annual event as networks become more jittery and cut potential losses earlier?
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Parks and Rec's seventh season has confirmed to be it's last
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She sounds English in the show. In real life, I assumed she would have spoken English with a French accent, but someone on-line produced some quote from one of Mary's contemporaries that said Mary spoke English with a very noticeable Scottish accent.
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I think your right_but what does the future hold then for the network model?A slow death spiral?How do you think it will play out?
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I think the networks will eventually become just producers or simply 'studios', in which shows are developed and then distributed via On demand only without any linear scheduling. I can see this happening within 15 years.
Do you think the networks are anticiapting this big change that you envisage? |
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Perhaps the ad funded network model is slowly dying and poor decisions by tv executives is accelerating an already existing trend?
I'll be honest, shows getting cancelled used to gut me, but I'm finding I just can't let myself get hooked on anything much recently. The last few years have seen massive cuts to what I watch due to cancellations. This year has just been crazy. I've already decided not to give anything new a chance, unless it's a sure thing or the story will continue somehow (Flash for instance). Have both Almost Human/Intelligence building up on box, probably just going to delete. Most of these shows cancelled could easily get a short TV movie/1-3 episodes extra made while sets are still up and then air in the first break of new season shows. Show of faith? There's a reason ratings are getting less and less; no one wants to watch a show and get invested knowing full well it's going to get cancelled. |
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Great news that the Mentalist has survived
Loving the whole reboot this season, has breathed a lot more life into it . . . but was really expecting the axe to fall so pleasantly surprised (for once)
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MENTALIST RENEWED
Bad teacher Intelligence Hostages Friends with better lives Crazy ones all cancelled |
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Thank goodness shows like The X Files were made in the 90's because they would not stand a chance now.
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Do most networks even take into account ALL viewing figures and revenue from a show though? From what I've heard barely any have evolved past the Nielson ratings garbage. I always wonder how many shows cancelled in the past actually had good ratings and made money, but were cancelled based on Nielson ratings inaccuracy.
I'll be honest, shows getting cancelled used to gut me, but I'm finding I just can't let myself get hooked on anything much recently. The last few years have seen massive cuts to what I watch due to cancellations. This year has just been crazy. I've already decided not to give anything new a chance, unless it's a sure thing or the story will continue somehow (Flash for instance). Have both Almost Human/Intelligence building up on box, probably just going to delete. Most of these shows cancelled could easily get a short TV movie/1-3 episodes extra made while sets are still up and then air in the first break of new season shows. Show of faith? There's a reason ratings are getting less and less; no one wants to watch a show and get invested knowing full well it's going to get cancelled. |
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Loving the whole reboot this season, has breathed a lot more life into it . . . but was really expecting the axe to fall so pleasantly surprised (for once)