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Old 05-12-2014, 13:22
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I am shocked. The ratings were dreadful. Yet they cancelled Perception, a show that got double what Legends got.
I'm guessing this has something to do with TNT's re-imaging and wanting more 'edgy' dramas on their schedule. I think thats why the likes of Perception and Franklin and Bash weren't renewed this year.
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Old 05-12-2014, 13:43
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I quite liked Legends. Though I quite liked Perception too.
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Old 05-12-2014, 13:47
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Legends has been renewed for season 2.
YES!....

Unbelievable really considering the ratings, but I am a happy camper as I thought it reasonable bang bang fodder......

As regards Perception, I wasn't a fan but know a few who were gutted when it was canned.
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Old 05-12-2014, 17:50
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Different people will be working on the show and film so the show won't get neglected at all.
I meant at DC's end of things, rather than the show. Will DC be willing to merchandise the show or do tie-ins or let them use certain characters if they think it will affect the films?
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Old 05-12-2014, 19:19
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That's the problem with DC current situation though and why it makes no sense to have a TV show and film about The Flash going at the same time

Especially as they are doing no other films based on their other TV characters like Arrow or Constantine

Also it doesn't seem like DC are planning to drop their TV plans either as they are moving ahead with the Supergirl TV show and if rumours are to be believed then that will cross over with Arrow and The Flash

It's why the only thing that makes sense would be if DC went down the route of multiple universes that are seperate but run at the same time!
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Old 05-12-2014, 20:40
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That's the problem with DC current situation though and why it makes no sense to have a TV show and film about The Flash going at the same time

Especially as they are doing no other films based on their other TV characters like Arrow or Constantine

Also it doesn't seem like DC are planning to drop their TV plans either as they are moving ahead with the Supergirl TV show and if rumours are to be believed then that will cross over with Arrow and The Flash

It's why the only thing that makes sense would be if DC went down the route of multiple universes that are seperate but run at the same time!
I don't see that as a problem. TV and film are different mediums, they don't need to be married to one another.
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Old 05-12-2014, 22:03
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I don't see that as a problem. TV and film are different mediums, they don't need to be married to one another.
But if DC starting controlling the TV series to protect the film, as they likely will do, then it will become a problem...
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Old 05-12-2014, 22:56
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I didn't mean that they need to married to each other but we have yet to have a comic book TV show and film running at the same time which I see as a problem as why would fans of the Flash TV show go to see a film when they already associate the TV show with that character

However DC may stop the TV show after a few seasons before the film comes out to avoid confusion among the general public
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Old 05-12-2014, 23:11
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I didn't mean that they need to married to each other but we have yet to have a comic book TV show and film running at the same time which I see as a problem as why would fans of the Flash TV show go to see a film when they already associate the TV show with that character

However DC may stop the TV show after a few seasons before the film comes out to avoid confusion among the general public
The Flash film is scheduled for 2018. Theoretically if they produce 23 episodes of The Flash a year, they could reach syndication numbers before March 2018. The question is whether the CW will be willing to give up one of it's highest rating shows for almost no reason...
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Old 06-12-2014, 02:02
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You're really getting off-topic here! Please change the record.
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Old 06-12-2014, 02:36
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But if DC starting controlling the TV series to protect the film, as they likely will do, then it will become a problem...
That is a possibility. But I still don't view them as one of the same. They can exist simultaneously, within their own continuity.

Film is the greater medium (yes, giving your point more credence) but I don't think the audiences are the same. Not everyone who is a fan of tv Flash will automatically jump to a film version and vice versa. Also, luckily, they can use a different incarnation of the Flash, to make it more distinctive.
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Old 06-12-2014, 03:26
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That is a possibility. But I still don't view them as one of the same. They can exist simultaneously, within their own continuity.

Film is the greater medium (yes, giving your point more credence) but I don't think the audiences are the same. Not everyone who is a fan of tv Flash will automatically jump to a film version and vice versa. Also, luckily, they can use a different incarnation of the Flash, to make it more distinctive.
I think Geoff Johns, the creative officer of DC Entertainment has said the DC TV series will be essentially be in their own universes so you wouldn't see Gotham crossing over with Arrow or Flash which makes sense because I think as we've seen with Agents of SHIELD, having to be part of the MCU means they are restricted to what goes on in the films whereas Gotham, Arrow, Flash etc can develop at their own pace. It'll be interesting if the Marvel Netflix shows takeoff because I could see Warner Bros developing similar shows for Netflix or Amazon based on more obscure DC titles like The Question.
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Old 06-12-2014, 07:12
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Gosh this thread has really changed, i thought it was about cancelled/renewed tv shows in the US? It seems to have descended in to a DC fan boy debate. Could you not have started a new thread rather than clog this one up?
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Old 06-12-2014, 08:33
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Gosh this thread has really changed, i thought it was about cancelled/renewed tv shows in the US? It seems to have descended in to a DC fan boy debate. Could you not have started a new thread rather than clog this one up?
Well said
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Old 06-12-2014, 08:40
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Gosh this thread has really changed, i thought it was about cancelled/renewed tv shows in the US? It seems to have descended in to a DC fan boy debate. Could you not have started a new thread rather than clog this one up?
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Old 06-12-2014, 12:22
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Gosh this thread has really changed, i thought it was about cancelled/renewed tv shows in the US? It seems to have descended in to a DC fan boy debate. Could you not have started a new thread rather than clog this one up?
I literally had to check I was still in the right thread.
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Old 06-12-2014, 13:02
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2 and a half men has it's finishing date early next year, Shame in some ways as it was good when it was good

Even the Ashton episodes were decent at times, Jon Cryer though really has gone too annoying with his character so i won't miss that
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Old 06-12-2014, 14:37
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Gracepoint got cancelled. Hardly a shocker. Being against Scandal and it's lack of innovation probably killed it.
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Old 06-12-2014, 14:51
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Gracepoint got cancelled. Hardly a shocker. Being against Scandal and it's lack of innovation probably killed it.
I think another reason it flopped as there are too many shows on tv like it

True Detective, Rogue, Murder In The First and Fargo. Plus the upcoming Secrets & Lies, American Crime and Wayward Pines. All are shows dealing with one crime occurring and spending 10 or so episodes investigating it. It's becoming a new trend. Eventually one of them wouldn't appeal well to the viewing public.
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Old 06-12-2014, 15:28
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I think another reason it flopped as there are too many shows on tv like it

True Detective, Rogue, Murder In The First and Fargo. Plus the upcoming Secrets & Lies, American Crime and Wayward Pines. All are shows dealing with one crime occurring and spending 10 or so episodes investigating it. It's becoming a new trend. Eventually one of them wouldn't appeal well to the viewing public.
Also How To Get Away With Murder as well.

it just offered nothing new to proceedings.
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Old 06-12-2014, 15:51
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I think another reason it flopped as there are too many shows on tv like it

True Detective, Rogue, Murder In The First and Fargo. Plus the upcoming Secrets & Lies, American Crime and Wayward Pines. All are shows dealing with one crime occurring and spending 10 or so episodes investigating it. It's becoming a new trend. Eventually one of them wouldn't appeal well to the viewing public.
Which is rather ironic given the show which started the trend Murder One only lasted two series (and abandoned the format in the second).
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Old 06-12-2014, 16:22
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Which is rather ironic given the show which started the trend Murder One only lasted two series (and abandoned the format in the second).
Like Profit, Murder One (with original format) was written way before its time. Two great shows prematurely ended IMO
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Old 06-12-2014, 16:30
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Also How To Get Away With Murder as well.

it just offered nothing new to proceedings.
But How to get away with Murder isn't just about one crime though, there are different ones in each episode. But there is one main arc going on. Plus various storylines going on with the cast. I wouldn't put How To Get Away With Murder in the category of those shows I mentioned.
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Old 06-12-2014, 16:38
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According to TVBTN, The CW has three teetering on the edge, The 100 (29 episodes), Jane the Virgin (23/4 episodes) and Reign (44 episodes). Which do we think are likely to be renewed and cancelled?

TVBTN thinks Reign might be saved because it's closer to syndication, but it has the worst ratings of the three. I think The 100 and Jane might be saved, with Reign going...
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Old 06-12-2014, 16:54
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According to TVBTN, The CW has three teetering on the edge, The 100 (29 episodes), Jane the Virgin (23/4 episodes) and Reign (44 episodes). Which do we think are likely to be renewed and cancelled?

TVBTN thinks Reign might be saved because it's closer to syndication, but it has the worst ratings of the three. I think The 100 and Jane might be saved, with Reign going...
'The 100' will be cancelled of the three. It's likely the most expensive and niche show. But 'Jane The Virgin' could easily be scrapped, considering it's just into its first season.
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