While RTD may have expressed disapointment when things got spoiled he never talked about hating fans and wishing they'd stop watching.

One's a positive attitude, one's negative.

None of which gives him the right to be that abusive to people, lots of whom are contributing to his salary.

Indeed, Moffat has always been very positive towards his work and Doctor Who.

I don't see why he wouldn't take a negative spin on spoilers.

Unsurprising comparison to RTD...

Are you saying that having been invited to a screening that you knew would be in confidence, and having been specifically asked not to post spoilers at the screening itself, you would stay, watch it and post an entire detailed summary? And you would do that simply because it is not illegal?

Charming.

In one sense you are right - oiks are a nuisance. So if oiks can't be kept out of screening, don't screen. Because of oiks.

People who justify shoddy behaviour on the basis that it isn't illegal. Makes me feel like doing a really smelly fart in their face. After all, everything that isn't illegal is tickety boo by them.

And the sky is blue and the grass is green but I wouldn't want one to become the other.

Advance screenings are needed to build up publicity for the show.

If the Press can respect a request not to spoil the episode, but the 'fans' can't, guess which group's going to be invited back?

Moffat loves the show, and thinks that the best way to find out what happens in the episode is to, er, watch the episodes. I agree.

He's a human being with freedom of speech. That's his right.

Ever been to a performance of The Mousetrap?

In which case you know whodunnit and why.

Asking someone to keep something secret is a token of trust in them.

His words seem a bit strong but I completely understand why he feels that way. It's not just the fact that it ruins the experience for others but that he was allowed to attend a special screening with only a handful of other people where he was told not to reveal anything and went ahead and did it anyway.
I just hope that the experience hasn't completely tarnished Moffat's view of DW fans which as acknowledged in the article mostly try to stay spoiler free.
I don't know how different it is, but I saw this story first on the BBC website: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-13353367

Funny how people didn't feel the same about the last showrunner's right to speak his mind.

Not as strong, but...

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s7/do...-spoilers.html

He's a plain-spoken Paisley boy, and that's just fine with me.

He's extremely positive about the show, the actors, the crew, the fans who enjoy the show.

He's extremely negative about 'fans' who only seem interested in spoiling the show for others and seek only to prove they have more information than anyone else.

And that's exactly the way it should be.

Well, it's pretty obvious that it was the cat

This is not a spoiler for the mousetrap or Doctor Who



Well I felt the same. I thought RTD was allowed to voice his opinions on anything, moreover, I thought he was charming and a great showrunner for Doctor Who. Most importantly he truly loved Doctor Who.

The same goes for Moffat! No difference between them!

Thats how I see it.

He doesn't want people to have their fun and entertainment spoiled by small minded idiots who have nothing better to do than to ruin the experience for everybody. If he didn't give a brass about the show or it's fans he wouldn't have spoken out. Just goes to show how much he actually cares about the real fans, casual viewers and the show itself.

Good on ya Moff, get stuck in lad.

Is it just me, or is there a touch of irony here, with Mr Moffatt not liking spoilers, but then has "Spoilers" as the catchphrase for River Song?

Maybe we do live in an era of information overload, but given how much work he puts into stories and storytelling, I completely understand why he i so p'd off.

If you were working on a major project at work or at uni or school that you had put a lot of work into, and you trusted someone with the findings of that project and the first thing they did was tell everyone what your findings were thus destroying the end product ie the delivery, wouldn't you be angry? I know I would!

Sadly, I think this does spell the end of public screenings, if I was SM I wouldn't be so keen to pre screen again.

All this is regardles of whether (the collective) you like him or not.

Eh? River says "Spoilers" as in "I can't give anything away."

So River agrees with Moffat

Nobody's forced to read them.

Now if people put them in without warning that's a different matter and not connected with what he's saying.

For example:

The Today Show clip that he authorised reveals

I count all of those as "shocks" that you'd want to prevent people from knowing about in advance.

Precisely. And I applaud SM for speaking out in such terms.

As for not holding a press screening - it is those same press screenings that help to generate and maintain interest and enthusiasm for the series as a whole prior to the launch. Kill those and the show is in danger of a soft launch with fewer articles written and fewer viewers as a result. And unless people want DW to fail, press screenings are a virtual necessity these days so it is in everyone's interest (the show, the production team, the fans and the casual viewer) to at least allow the show's production team the courtesy of observing their requests for secrecy with regard to important plot details.

Or is such simple courtesy & politeness dead in the water these days?

Well, okay, but at this time we expect a uber finale so although this tells us who is in it, it doesn't tell us why. It is a basic marketing tactic isn't it, to lure people in.

Now if he had said; River Song will turn out to be ..... or Amy and Rory will end up ..... or the DOctor is going to .....; then that would be a different story.

And yet there are plenty of people on this Board who'd scream blue murder if they heard even one of those pieces of information in advance and would most definitely call them Spoilers.

Equally there are people on this forum who would scream blue murder if saw even one second of one insignificant scene.

Its a matter of opinion, but as I indicated in my post, I take your point!

Personally I just think it's unnecessary. Ok, so some people might enjoy knowing spoilers. Why does that mean you have to instantly tell everyone else?
I've been to a few recordings of shows played to an audience, and I've watched from the sidelines as stuff is filmed - but I don't feel the need to go and tell everyone what I know. It amuses me to see other people speculating on stuff I know to be false or whatever.

And I know I enjoy stuff a lot more when it hasn't been spoiled - before series 4 aired I successfully managed to avoid any spoilers at all meaning when Rose appeared at the end of Partners in Crime it was a total surprise and I loved it. In the past I've read spoilers for shows by accident, and it does always feel spoilt. Like I've ruined it for myself. Can't people just let other fans choose whether to know or not?

I think Moffat needs to get over himself. The majority of Dr Who viewers don't frequent Dr. Who forums or seek out spoiler information. If a few fans want to know spoilers and discuss them then so what?

The BBC produce spoiler photos for the tabloids all the time to generate interest in the show. So spoilers are okay so long as they don't reveal too much? Ridiculous.

Well if he doesn't want stuff coming out then don't host screenings and don't post spoilery pictures in your magazine Moffat! Jeez.