Originally Posted by JohnBoy Walton:
“Nothing illegal about it,”
“Nothing illegal about it,”
There is nothing illegal about using a mobile phone during a wedding service, but it is still impolite.
Mr Moffatt complains
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There is nothing illegal about using a mobile phone during a wedding service, but it is still impolite.
Originally Posted by stcoop:
“While RTD may have expressed disapointment when things got spoiled he never talked about hating fans and wishing they'd stop watching.
One's a positive attitude, one's negative.”
“While RTD may have expressed disapointment when things got spoiled he never talked about hating fans and wishing they'd stop watching.
One's a positive attitude, one's negative.”
If you are suggesting RTD never railed against Who fans then I think you have a very short memory.
In fact just the other day Davies did something very very similar over on Torchwood and suggested certain fans should watch Supernatural instead!
Originally Posted by nebogipfel:
“What was played on radio 4 news this morning was SM complaining about the person who was invited to a screening of first two episodes for fans . Asked not to reveal but posted every detail online.
I do not know if he has said anything about the wider thing of different types of spoiler and spoiler behaviour in forums.”
“What was played on radio 4 news this morning was SM complaining about the person who was invited to a screening of first two episodes for fans . Asked not to reveal but posted every detail online.
I do not know if he has said anything about the wider thing of different types of spoiler and spoiler behaviour in forums.”
From quotes and also what he wrote in DWM i have a feeling he is not a fan of forums purely because he has no control about whats being put on them
I understand Moffat's feelings on the subject, but he is bang out of order here.
I didn't like the full details of the first 2 episodes being on the internet, and I am glad they were removed. I can see why he does not like spoilers, being the head writer, it must be annoying to have little details flying all over the internet.
But modern Who thrives on spoilers, they divde and unite fandom all at once. Many people who would not otherwise watch an episode do so because they have gathered a general idea of what to expect from the spoilers and speculation going around.
I can see that Moffat is hurt, but to tell me to "go and be a fan of something else" is a highly hurtful comment that I disapprove of. I love Doctor Who, and I love indulging in the odd spoiler. How dare he try to prevent me from enjoying something that I consider it a privilege to be a fan of
P.S I know that Moffat's words may be aimed at the person who posted the detailed summary, but here he is also denouncing set reporters and fans who watch the filming, leaking intriguing tidbits that keep me more on edge than any of Moffat's "clever" tactics.
I didn't like the full details of the first 2 episodes being on the internet, and I am glad they were removed. I can see why he does not like spoilers, being the head writer, it must be annoying to have little details flying all over the internet.
But modern Who thrives on spoilers, they divde and unite fandom all at once. Many people who would not otherwise watch an episode do so because they have gathered a general idea of what to expect from the spoilers and speculation going around.
I can see that Moffat is hurt, but to tell me to "go and be a fan of something else" is a highly hurtful comment that I disapprove of. I love Doctor Who, and I love indulging in the odd spoiler. How dare he try to prevent me from enjoying something that I consider it a privilege to be a fan of
P.S I know that Moffat's words may be aimed at the person who posted the detailed summary, but here he is also denouncing set reporters and fans who watch the filming, leaking intriguing tidbits that keep me more on edge than any of Moffat's "clever" tactics.
Originally Posted by Dr Ginge:
“From quotes and also what he wrote in DWM i have a feeling he is not a fan of forums purely because he has no control about whats being put on them”
“From quotes and also what he wrote in DWM i have a feeling he is not a fan of forums purely because he has no control about whats being put on them”
He's a member on Gallifrey Base and used to post on there - hasn't done so for a while though.
Originally Posted by Moffat:
“"You can imagine how much I hate them. It's only fans who do this, or they call themselves fans. I wish they could go and be fans of something else."”
“"You can imagine how much I hate them. It's only fans who do this, or they call themselves fans. I wish they could go and be fans of something else."”
Nice, Mr Moffat, and good way to appeal to your audience
Maybe he should be flattered that people care enough about the show to hunt out and post spoilers. Or maybe he should accept that in the age on the internet, nothing is going to stay a secret for long and if he thinks whining about fans and spoilers is going to stop them he's very possibly deluded.
Originally Posted by 2shy2007:
“It's his own fault, he holds a private press screening then moans when things are leaked from it, if you dont want anything to be known, then dont hold the press screening Mr Moffat.”
“It's his own fault, he holds a private press screening then moans when things are leaked from it, if you dont want anything to be known, then dont hold the press screening Mr Moffat.”
Indeed.
Originally Posted by GARETH197901:
“Seems one of the other Dr Who forums are going Spoiler free because of this”
“Seems one of the other Dr Who forums are going Spoiler free because of this”
That will disappoint a lot of members, who'll just go elsewhere for their spoilers.
Originally Posted by Jolly Jester:
“Is it just me, or is there a touch of irony here, with Mr Moffatt not liking spoilers, but then has "Spoilers" as the catchphrase for River Song?
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“Is it just me, or is there a touch of irony here, with Mr Moffatt not liking spoilers, but then has "Spoilers" as the catchphrase for River Song?
”
I think that's his attempt at a little dig at fans who like spoilers.
Originally Posted by Dr Ginge:
“From quotes and also what he wrote in DWM i have a feeling he is not a fan of forums purely because he has no control about whats being put on them”
“From quotes and also what he wrote in DWM i have a feeling he is not a fan of forums purely because he has no control about whats being put on them”
He used to post on the old Outpost Gallifrey, and was quite funny at times in his replies to some criticism of episodes.
Originally Posted by Sandgrownun:
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He used to post on the old Outpost Gallifrey, and was quite funny at times in his replies to some criticism of episodes.”
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He used to post on the old Outpost Gallifrey, and was quite funny at times in his replies to some criticism of episodes.”
oooo didnt know that i stand corrected. i do like it when they appear of forums. I think however now he prob thinks they are the sporn of the devil!!
Teasers are not spoilers. Clues are not spoilers. Hints are not spoilers. Speculations are not spoilers.
Totally see where Moffat is coming from.
Doctor Who Online has been spoiler-free since 2006, but we have had a contained area on our forums since then for spoiler discussion.
As a result of Moffat's comments today, we have decided to step our vigilance against spoilers and have now made the entire DWO Forums spoiler-free.
I am aware that a small portion of our members may be annoyed by this, but feel it is the right decision.
This now means our entire site is spoiler-free.
Doctor Who Online has been spoiler-free since 2006, but we have had a contained area on our forums since then for spoiler discussion.
As a result of Moffat's comments today, we have decided to step our vigilance against spoilers and have now made the entire DWO Forums spoiler-free.
I am aware that a small portion of our members may be annoyed by this, but feel it is the right decision.
This now means our entire site is spoiler-free.
Originally Posted by drwho-online:
“Totally see where Moffat is coming from.
Doctor Who Online has been spoiler-free since 2006, but we have had a contained area on our forums since then for spoiler discussion.
As a result of Moffat's comments today, we have decided to step our vigilance against spoilers and have now made the entire DWO Forums spoiler-free.
I am aware that a small portion of our members may be annoyed by this, but feel it is the right decision.
This now means our entire site is spoiler-free.”
“Totally see where Moffat is coming from.
Doctor Who Online has been spoiler-free since 2006, but we have had a contained area on our forums since then for spoiler discussion.
As a result of Moffat's comments today, we have decided to step our vigilance against spoilers and have now made the entire DWO Forums spoiler-free.
I am aware that a small portion of our members may be annoyed by this, but feel it is the right decision.
This now means our entire site is spoiler-free.”
I won't be posting/reading there again then. Silly decision imho.
There are so few surprises on TV these days. Look at the way EastEnders or Coronation Street operate, revealing entire plotlines and (ahem) "shock twists" that are then plastered over enough TV guide covers that you can easily keep up with what's going on without actually tuning in! I think both RTD and SM have gone about things in the best way, revealing just enough about a story to whet people's appetites but knowing that unexpected twists and turns are an essential part of great storytelling. Isn't the "Bloody hell, I never expected THAT!" reaction one of the great joys of reading a book or watching a film / TV programme? Doesn't it drag you into and involve you in the action just a little bit more than knowing what's going to happen in advance? Doesn't it just make it more, well, exciting??
OK, I know that in this internet age it's a little difficult to keep anything secret and if spoilers are out there and people genuinely do want to know what's going to happen and enjoy reading them, I can't sit here and say "Well, you shouldn't!" but I can completely understand SM's frustration and anger that these spoilers are out there in the first place. When the programme makers have put so much effort into the show to make it surprising, involving, exciting - doing the job of storytellers in other words - it must be so disheartening to know that some fool has taken the heart of their work and put it out there, that he or she has taken away the programme makers' control over their own storytelling: if they can't control the surprises, one of the major elements of storytelling has gone.
So good on The Moff for saying exactly how he feels about this. He's clearly p*ssed off and quite rightly so. I'm actually amazed at some of the comments knocking him on here. If you enjoy reading spoilers, that's up to you but do you think you actually have some kind of entitlement to them? One that trumps the Doctor Who production team's right to present their hard work as they see fit???
OK, I know that in this internet age it's a little difficult to keep anything secret and if spoilers are out there and people genuinely do want to know what's going to happen and enjoy reading them, I can't sit here and say "Well, you shouldn't!" but I can completely understand SM's frustration and anger that these spoilers are out there in the first place. When the programme makers have put so much effort into the show to make it surprising, involving, exciting - doing the job of storytellers in other words - it must be so disheartening to know that some fool has taken the heart of their work and put it out there, that he or she has taken away the programme makers' control over their own storytelling: if they can't control the surprises, one of the major elements of storytelling has gone.
So good on The Moff for saying exactly how he feels about this. He's clearly p*ssed off and quite rightly so. I'm actually amazed at some of the comments knocking him on here. If you enjoy reading spoilers, that's up to you but do you think you actually have some kind of entitlement to them? One that trumps the Doctor Who production team's right to present their hard work as they see fit???
Originally Posted by nebogipfel:
“Are you saying that having been invited to a screening that you knew would be in confidence, and having been specifically asked not to post spoilers at the screening itself, you would stay, watch it and post an entire detailed summary? And you would do that simply because it is not illegal?
Charming.
In one sense you are right - oiks are a nuisance. So if oiks can't be kept out of screening, don't screen. Because of oiks.
People who justify shoddy behaviour on the basis that it isn't illegal. Makes me feel like doing a really smelly fart in their face. After all, everything that isn't illegal is tickety boo by them.”
“Are you saying that having been invited to a screening that you knew would be in confidence, and having been specifically asked not to post spoilers at the screening itself, you would stay, watch it and post an entire detailed summary? And you would do that simply because it is not illegal?
Charming.
In one sense you are right - oiks are a nuisance. So if oiks can't be kept out of screening, don't screen. Because of oiks.
People who justify shoddy behaviour on the basis that it isn't illegal. Makes me feel like doing a really smelly fart in their face. After all, everything that isn't illegal is tickety boo by them.”
What I am saying is that he is acting like some huge crime has been commited and it hasn't. A spoiler of a TV show. A spoiler that people chose to read or not read. SO no fans had their enjoyment ruined, or if they did then it is nobodies fault but their own. Even if they cannot read a subject of a post, then after a couple of lines then surely they would get the hint...
Originally Posted by DoctorQui:
“Maybe we do live in an era of information overload, but given how much work he puts into stories and storytelling, I completely understand why he i so p'd off.
If you were working on a major project at work or at uni or school that you had put a lot of work into, and you trusted someone with the findings of that project and the first thing they did was tell everyone what your findings were thus destroying the end product ie the delivery, wouldn't you be angry? I know I would!
Sadly, I think this does spell the end of public screenings, if I was SM I wouldn't be so keen to pre screen again.
All this is regardles of whether (the collective) you like him or not.”
“Maybe we do live in an era of information overload, but given how much work he puts into stories and storytelling, I completely understand why he i so p'd off.
If you were working on a major project at work or at uni or school that you had put a lot of work into, and you trusted someone with the findings of that project and the first thing they did was tell everyone what your findings were thus destroying the end product ie the delivery, wouldn't you be angry? I know I would!
Sadly, I think this does spell the end of public screenings, if I was SM I wouldn't be so keen to pre screen again.
All this is regardles of whether (the collective) you like him or not.”
Yeah, I would be slightly annoyed. But if I was so precious over it then I wouldnt have trusted people with previews. He acts like his work is sacred and more important than other work. It isn't.
Originally Posted by aamcfarland:
“There is nothing illegal about using a mobile phone during a wedding service, but it is still impolite.”
“There is nothing illegal about using a mobile phone during a wedding service, but it is still impolite.”
Yes. Thats the same.
What a huge gang of hypocrites on DS Doctor WHo forums!
A few weeks ago, some not all (so don't reply jumping on me because you didn't. Because Some did), were wetting themselves for a link to read the spoilers and find out where they could read this. Now there is a backlash and SM has spoken, the same people have actually posted in this thread! What a joke.
At the end of the day, some fans like spoilers, some don't. A fan gets a chance to be a hero to the huge amount of people who do like spoilers, they will take it. It is 100% the fault of the person in the CD manufacturing plant that the music leaked, the fault of the person who works at the BBC for speaking to the press etc. It is not the fault of the fan who reads it. Or the fan who leaks it. They are a fan and not in a trusted position. The person who leaked this was Moffat for inviting fans and if he cannot see that then it is a fine display of his arrogance.
To be honest I can see where Moffatt is coming from as a writer and producers point of view.
The way I see it is you spend say six weeks working on (from brain to paper to script) knowing this is going to be one of the biggest doctor who stories ever challenged and written then then the following months of getting the thing filmed and edited to have peoples enjoyment spoiled would not only be heart breaking but it would royally **** me off.
The problem came from one person posting a guildline up online, there would have been some little hints or clues then I am sure that the issue would be still spoken about a month after the leak.
Sure he takes a swipe at set reports but those are tiny little moments which happen in filming. Sometimes these moments which have been recorded may not even be shown on screen ever (OK 98% of the time they do get included in the show) but these are tasters of what to come. Its not like they have the director shouting in a megaphone "This Dalek story is going to be episode 8 and 9 of Series 6 of Doctor who".
I just now expect that most screenings will be reverted back to the press due which in a way is good thing (due to embargoes being put into place for releases of information)
The way I see it is you spend say six weeks working on (from brain to paper to script) knowing this is going to be one of the biggest doctor who stories ever challenged and written then then the following months of getting the thing filmed and edited to have peoples enjoyment spoiled would not only be heart breaking but it would royally **** me off.
The problem came from one person posting a guildline up online, there would have been some little hints or clues then I am sure that the issue would be still spoken about a month after the leak.
Sure he takes a swipe at set reports but those are tiny little moments which happen in filming. Sometimes these moments which have been recorded may not even be shown on screen ever (OK 98% of the time they do get included in the show) but these are tasters of what to come. Its not like they have the director shouting in a megaphone "This Dalek story is going to be episode 8 and 9 of Series 6 of Doctor who".
I just now expect that most screenings will be reverted back to the press due which in a way is good thing (due to embargoes being put into place for releases of information)
Originally Posted by brouhaha:
“There are so few surprises on TV these days. Look at the way EastEnders or Coronation Street operate, revealing entire plotlines and (ahem) "shock twists" that are then plastered over enough TV guide covers that you can easily keep up with what's going on without actually tuning in! I think both RTD and SM have gone about things in the best way, revealing just enough about a story to whet people's appetites but knowing that unexpected twists and turns are an essential part of great storytelling. Isn't the "Bloody hell, I never expected THAT!" reaction one of the great joys of reading a book or watching a film / TV programme? Doesn't it drag you into and involve you in the action just a little bit more than knowing what's going to happen in advance? Doesn't it just make it more, well, exciting??
OK, I know that in this internet age it's a little difficult to keep anything secret and if spoilers are out there and people genuinely do want to know what's going to happen and enjoy reading them, I can't sit here and say "Well, you shouldn't!" but I can completely understand SM's frustration and anger that these spoilers are out there in the first place. When the programme makers have put so much effort into the show to make it surprising, involving, exciting - doing the job of storytellers in other words - it must be so disheartening to know that some fool has taken the heart of their work and put it out there, that he or she has taken away the programme makers' control over their own storytelling: if they can't control the surprises, one of the major elements of storytelling has gone.
So good on The Moff for saying exactly how he feels about this. He's clearly p*ssed off and quite rightly so. I'm actually amazed at some of the comments knocking him on here. If you enjoy reading spoilers, that's up to you but do you think you actually have some kind of entitlement to them? One that trumps the Doctor Who production team's right to present their hard work as they see fit???”
“There are so few surprises on TV these days. Look at the way EastEnders or Coronation Street operate, revealing entire plotlines and (ahem) "shock twists" that are then plastered over enough TV guide covers that you can easily keep up with what's going on without actually tuning in! I think both RTD and SM have gone about things in the best way, revealing just enough about a story to whet people's appetites but knowing that unexpected twists and turns are an essential part of great storytelling. Isn't the "Bloody hell, I never expected THAT!" reaction one of the great joys of reading a book or watching a film / TV programme? Doesn't it drag you into and involve you in the action just a little bit more than knowing what's going to happen in advance? Doesn't it just make it more, well, exciting??
OK, I know that in this internet age it's a little difficult to keep anything secret and if spoilers are out there and people genuinely do want to know what's going to happen and enjoy reading them, I can't sit here and say "Well, you shouldn't!" but I can completely understand SM's frustration and anger that these spoilers are out there in the first place. When the programme makers have put so much effort into the show to make it surprising, involving, exciting - doing the job of storytellers in other words - it must be so disheartening to know that some fool has taken the heart of their work and put it out there, that he or she has taken away the programme makers' control over their own storytelling: if they can't control the surprises, one of the major elements of storytelling has gone.
So good on The Moff for saying exactly how he feels about this. He's clearly p*ssed off and quite rightly so. I'm actually amazed at some of the comments knocking him on here. If you enjoy reading spoilers, that's up to you but do you think you actually have some kind of entitlement to them? One that trumps the Doctor Who production team's right to present their hard work as they see fit???”
Oh for goodness sake - it's a tv show, not a state secret!
People being precious about spoilers has always seemed ludicrous to me. Do these same people never re-watch episodes because they already know the plot and it's therefore been "spoiled" for them? Of course not - I would maintain that people get even more pleasure re-watching episodes because they know what is coming and can therefore relax and enjoy it.
Reading the actual quote, and he does have a point. Not only did the particular fan involved feel compelled to give a point by point summation of the viewing, but they did so in an incredibly hamfisted way. So even after you got past knowing the story. Even if you'd bitten and had a look cause you couldn't help yourself. It'd be like seeing a cheap rip off of a classical work. Perhaps like a bad adaptation of one of your favourite novels. Given you're a fan you'd still watch it but without the sense of suspense that helps heighten the emotional impact. There were some really scary bits in that two parter, and I don't think the episode would have worked as well knowing about them.
All that said I've gotten used to reading the "inside" scoop on the Eastenders baby-swap saga as portrayed by cheap magazines, and even though what they say is often wrong, I'd hate for one of those kind of mags, or a newspaper, to have a second hand account of an episode plastered all over it's front page.
The only thing that can be said is that I doubt that Moffat will allow any fan into a preview again. It'll be press only because if they don't keep their mouths shut they'll not be asked back or be allowed in to other previews and if you work as a reviewer a reputation for loose lips will ruin your career.
I'm glad I kind of drifted away from this forum and have done my best to keep away while a series is pending or in transmission because I found that some of the information I was getting was enough to slightly spoil things.
All that said I've gotten used to reading the "inside" scoop on the Eastenders baby-swap saga as portrayed by cheap magazines, and even though what they say is often wrong, I'd hate for one of those kind of mags, or a newspaper, to have a second hand account of an episode plastered all over it's front page.
The only thing that can be said is that I doubt that Moffat will allow any fan into a preview again. It'll be press only because if they don't keep their mouths shut they'll not be asked back or be allowed in to other previews and if you work as a reviewer a reputation for loose lips will ruin your career.
I'm glad I kind of drifted away from this forum and have done my best to keep away while a series is pending or in transmission because I found that some of the information I was getting was enough to slightly spoil things.
Originally Posted by geraniums:
“ Of course not - I would maintain that people get even more pleasure re-watching episodes because they know what is coming and can therefore relax and enjoy it.”
“ Of course not - I would maintain that people get even more pleasure re-watching episodes because they know what is coming and can therefore relax and enjoy it.”
But they've still got the memory of how they felt the first time. Even more fun is if you're with someone who hasn't seen an episode before and get to see them react.
Originally Posted by 2shy2007:
“Oh , the Rose scene was shocking, a real sharp intake or breath time, loved it
The other times she appeared were good, but never as good as that first time in PIC.”
“Oh , the Rose scene was shocking, a real sharp intake or breath time, loved it
The other times she appeared were good, but never as good as that first time in PIC.”
It was amazing they managed to keep that under wraps, but I'm glad they did, it was a great shock scene.
Originally Posted by Orri:
“But they've still got the memory of how they felt the first time. Even more fun is if you're with someone who hasn't seen an episode before and get to see them react.”
“But they've still got the memory of how they felt the first time. Even more fun is if you're with someone who hasn't seen an episode before and get to see them react.”
I've lost count of the number of times on here that I've read people saying they'll have to re-watch an episode again because they'd missed some part of the plot or didn't fully understand the story. Anticipation can spoil your enjoyment of a story imho.
Originally Posted by burneside:
“It was amazing they managed to keep that under wraps, but I'm glad they did, it was a great shock scene.”
“It was amazing they managed to keep that under wraps, but I'm glad they did, it was a great shock scene.”
Because they had the sense not to include the scene at the screening. Because they knew it would leak out. They could have hardly complained if they had included it and it had been leaked. Who would be silly enough to do that. Oh.
I don't blame him for being a bit hacked off really He generously let fans attend the screening. And they totally disrespect him by not abiding by the request for confidentiality (such a request is quite normal in the industry at such screenings). Amazing the immaturity of people who don't see why he should be a bit angry.
Still, at least they don't work in the media. If they did and they went to a screening and revealed all like that they'd be out of a job and blacklisted for life.
Still, at least they don't work in the media. If they did and they went to a screening and revealed all like that they'd be out of a job and blacklisted for life.
Big difference, the media are in a position of trust. And if they keep him happy then they might get little exclusives etc. They have a reason.
A fan doesn't.
A fan doesn't.
I don't blame him for being a bit hacked off really He generously let fans attend the screening. And they totally disrespect him by not abiding by the request for confidentiality (such a request is quite normal in the industry at such screenings). Amazing the immaturity of people who don't see why he should be a bit angry. It wasn't even nuggets of plot revealed but the whole thing.
Still, at least they don't work in the media. If they did and they went to a screening and revealed all like that they'd be out of a job and blacklisted for life.
Still, at least they don't work in the media. If they did and they went to a screening and revealed all like that they'd be out of a job and blacklisted for life.
Originally Posted by DoctorQui:
“Maybe we do live in an era of information overload, but given how much work he puts into stories and storytelling, I completely understand why he i so p'd off.
If you were working on a major project at work or at uni or school that you had put a lot of work into, and you trusted someone with the findings of that project and the first thing they did was tell everyone what your findings were thus destroying the end product ie the delivery, wouldn't you be angry? I know I would!
Sadly, I think this does spell the end of public screenings, if I was SM I wouldn't be so keen to pre screen again.
All this is regardles of whether (the collective) you like him or not.”
“Maybe we do live in an era of information overload, but given how much work he puts into stories and storytelling, I completely understand why he i so p'd off.
If you were working on a major project at work or at uni or school that you had put a lot of work into, and you trusted someone with the findings of that project and the first thing they did was tell everyone what your findings were thus destroying the end product ie the delivery, wouldn't you be angry? I know I would!
Sadly, I think this does spell the end of public screenings, if I was SM I wouldn't be so keen to pre screen again.
All this is regardles of whether (the collective) you like him or not.”
If I were to do that, it would be thought unprofessional. In fact anyone in the scientific community would tell you that. Not to mention that it could jeopardise any legal protection I may want to get on it. But that is not the point - the point is that alot of the time you wouldn't share your work.
Now with previewing episodes it gives you a good judge of how people are going to react to those episodes before hand (not that there is much you can do if they don't go down well) so I can understand why Moffat allows them to occur. But I fully agree with what he was saying - I don't particularly agree with the manner in which he said it but the fact of the matter is that he has trusted those invited to the preview to not go and then post detailed spoilers online. He is angry that the people posting spoilers are breaking a trust and spoiling the story for those fans who want to find out for themselves what the plot twist is (which on the whole I would guess would be the majority).
Originally Posted by jon8769:
“I don't blame him for being a bit hacked off really He generously let fans attend the screening. And they totally disrespect him by not abiding by the request for confidentiality (such a request is quite normal in the industry at such screenings). Amazing the immaturity of people who don't see why he should be a bit angry.
Still, at least they don't work in the media. If they did and they went to a screening and revealed all like that they'd be out of a job and blacklisted for life.”
“I don't blame him for being a bit hacked off really He generously let fans attend the screening. And they totally disrespect him by not abiding by the request for confidentiality (such a request is quite normal in the industry at such screenings). Amazing the immaturity of people who don't see why he should be a bit angry.
Still, at least they don't work in the media. If they did and they went to a screening and revealed all like that they'd be out of a job and blacklisted for life.”
I'm not in the least bit immature; I just happen to have a different opinion from you. The Media are obliged to respect embargoes, fans are not. All this fuss from Moffat about spoilers is ludicrous - particularly when the Beeb themselves reveal spoilers to the tabloids, and Dr. Who magazine isn't averse to publishing them as well.
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