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Old 11-05-2011, 13:45
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There doesnt seem to be a thread as usual to analyse the task.
Who pays for the containers what they sell the food in or is it included in the the 250. They dont come that cheap.
Why did the girls only use half the money is there any sense to it.
Why didnt the boys have a go at their PM. He was younger than all of them (and smaller) to find out what he was doing.
Why bring someone back into the boardroom just because he wanted to be PM. Sounds ridiculous.
How do you break three juicers. He said they go too hot. Well he should have been more careful with the next one.
He should have gone out and bought one they dont cost that much and it wouldnt have come out of the 250 pounds. I cant see that being in the rules that if the equipment breaks one cannot buy another. Better than doing it by hand. And this lost them the task.
Why didnt they have something for the morning rush.
Why did they have to make two products, unless the teams had nothing else to do.
Why not just buy a tin of powder soup would have made much more profit. Or at least mixed it with it, would have tasted a lot better and more could be charged.
The girls were not really that efficient they didnt have their products ready and didnt seem to have a clue about it.
This is the first task and usually the easiest one. They all know by now that always a similar task comes first and should have been much more prepared for it.
I think price somehow didnt seem to count. They could have charged double and people would still pay. It was only loose change at the end of the day and if youre hungry (or think you are) you would be prepared to pay.
They didnt seem to be 'dressed' up as usual. But even then had no trouble selling only in getting the goods.
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Old 11-05-2011, 17:16
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Who pays for the containers what they sell the food in or is it included in the the 250. They dont come that cheap.
One of the many unanswered questions on these sort of tasks - like: who gets the licences for the sales pitches and acquires any equipment?

And how did they manage to make soup if none of them had ever done it?

Clearly the production company do a great deal of work and it makes it harder to analyse how good a job the teams are doing because we don't know just what they do do.

Why did the girls only use half the money is there any sense to it.
I think they slightly confused this with a buying task.

Had they lost whoever got the blame for that would have been history.

How do you break three juicers. He said they go too hot.
They are designed for using in cafés where they will not be in continuous use. Using them continuously causes them to run too hot which would trigger a thermal trip. They would have been able to use them again but only intermittently.

That was a major slip up on the part of the production company as, if they were providing equipment for the teams to make things in bulk, it should all have been industrial grade.

He should have gone out and bought one they dont cost that much and it wouldnt have come out of the 250 pounds. I cant see that being in the rules that if the equipment breaks one cannot buy another. Better than doing it by hand.
Clearly there was no mechanism to do this.

And this lost them the task.
Not according to Ed who said they were useless and they could squeeze quicker by hand.

Why not just buy a tin of powder soup would have made much more profit. Or at least mixed it with it, would have tasted a lot better and more could be charged.
How do you know they didn't?

They would have had to season the soup somehow but exactly how was never divulged.
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Old 11-05-2011, 17:46
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Thanks Jepson. I always appreciate your posts.
I would think that if the equipment breaks down and is the production teams fault they should be given extra money. Meaning adding to their sales which they did not make.
Containers are part of the product, licenses which are the same for both teams are not.
The cost of the containers are not the same for both and should be taken into account.
I can see like I wrote both teams were at fault. The girls for not using all the money and the boys for not having a go at their pm and demanding he write down on paper what he said was in his 'head'.
I notice Joanna on her tweet says that he should have thanked LS for the opportunity. He now says that his business idea was to make some Afghan restaurant, that cant be worth 250. I think all 'rejects' should tell us what their real ideas where however fanciful.
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Old 11-05-2011, 17:49
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I want to know why the guy that was fired didn't write anything down and why nobody else wrote anything down. That'd be the first thing I'd do. They always seem to rush into things with no organisation whatsoever, then are shocked when it all goes tits up.

I'd have thought one of the first things these amazing business minds would learn would be to keep track of what they are buying and selling and for how much, not just launch themselves in willy nilly like a bunch of kids.
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Old 11-05-2011, 18:59
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You are right, anyone with a grain of common sense would do so but it seems budding whizz kids don't always possess that!
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Old 11-05-2011, 19:05
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I want to know why the guy that was fired didn't write anything down and why nobody else wrote anything down.
The inventor guy was writing on a pad in the FIRST boardroom and all LS had said was "£250! PRODUCTS!" They would obviously get a written briefing anyway.

Maybe everyone thought that was such a tool thing to do that they were all scared of doing it themselves for the next day.
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Old 11-05-2011, 20:03
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Why did the girls only use half the money is there any sense to it.
It's a common Apprentice trap to give them more resources than they can use. Arguably the boys team did make that mistake as they didn't seem able to process all they bought.

Why bring someone back into the boardroom just because he wanted to be PM. Sounds ridiculous.
On You're Fired, Edward said he hadn't a clue who to bring back. Since Gavin had come in for some criticism during the task, he was a reasonable choice. Alex would probably have been a better choice (who had the worst sales).

Why did they have to make two products, unless the teams had nothing else to do.
Since both teams did it, it was probably a rule. There are generally a lot of rules we aren't told about.
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Old 11-05-2011, 20:05
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Who pays for the containers what they sell the food in or is it included in the the 250. They dont come that cheap..
In the past they have had to source jars, bottles etc - but this was a quick 1 day task so a lot was already done for them.

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Why did the girls only use half the money is there any sense to it.
As others have posted in the past the candidate 'in charge' of the cash has been spanked for overspending. I'm not sure the girls would have sold much more though - they only had til 4pm. It was overspending on the 1st task that got Anita the sack in series 5.

... I cant see that being in the rules that if the equipment breaks one cannot buy another. Better than doing it by hand. And this lost them the task.
Not taking into account the time to juice the oranges lost them the task - they really needed to hit the breakfast rush with the juice. They should have done something else entirely

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Why didnt they have something for the morning rush.
They did - Juice and fruit salad - but failed to produce it in time.

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Why did they have to make two products, unless the teams had nothing else to do.
One of the 'rules' to make the task a bit tricksyier.

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Why not just buy a tin of powder soup would have made much more profit. Or at least mixed it with it, would have tasted a lot better and more could be charged.
True - and they could buy other stuff like pasta. I just don't think the boys were that experienced in cookery.

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I think price somehow didnt seem to count. They could have charged double and people would still pay. It was only loose change at the end of the day and if youre hungry (or think you are) you would be prepared to pay.
A very good point - they started out low and never went up in price - did they not watch "The Brand" bump up prices last year?!!
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Old 11-05-2011, 23:25
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t's a common Apprentice trap to give them more resources than they can use. Arguably the boys team did make that mistake as they didn't seem able to process all they bought.
Sorry I dont get it. So what if you cant process it all. You dont get fired for buying too much. Anyway they could have sold what was left without processing or is it against the rules.
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Old 11-05-2011, 23:34
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You dont get fired for buying too much.
I believe the money you don't spend counts towards your profit. So you could spend nothing, hand back £250 at the end, and win if the other team somehow contrived to make a loss.
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