Nasty piece of work is abit strong I think. Is he any worse than say Katie Hopkins (who really was a nasty piece of work).

Jim basically just wormed his way out of getting Fired because he could sense how indecisive and flimsy Leon was, and took advantage of that. All of the candiates will be thinking in their heads "don't pick me" while the PM is looking up and down the table and, in this case, Jim actually said it out loud in such a way that Leon, the flake that he is, couldn't refuse him. I think this boardroom episode reflected more badly on Leon than it did Jim. While the manner in which Jim got his way wasn't particulalry nice, I don't think it was really bad either.

As a one-off, it was interesting, especially in the way it exposed a lot more feelings than normally get revealed at this time (as in the "I think xxxxx should go" they suddenly started doing)

But as interesting/different as it was, I hope it doesn't become a regular - or even irregular - occurrence.

Good assessment of the situation. I was convinced Leon was toast because he showed himself to be quite weak there. Jim made him look foolish.

It was a fantastic boardroom moment. I think it's worth pointing out that Glenn, once he was chosen, also tried to do the same thing and drop Tim in it, but he wasn't slick enough to pull it off. However, I agree that it reflected on Leon worse, and judging by the conversation we saw at the end it looks as if his display of weakness cost him the respect of the rest of the team.

says more about Leon than Jim

I remember that! It was another comedy gold moment in the history of The Aprentice, with James just sat there, a brief pause, then he realised he was getting called in with a " ME???!!!!!!"

I agree, Jim saw the opportunity with Leon & went for it, Leon showed real weakness changing his mind.

I would normally have disliked what Jim did but in this case, after he had so effortlessly rescued the situation when smarmy-git dried up it would have been an absolute travesty to take him into the boardroom.

I think Jim was rightly pleased with himself for saving that situation and was so stunned to be selected for the boardroom that the adrenaline kicked and he defended himself in a very robust manner.

So, this time he gets away with it but people are going to wondering if he's a bully so he'll need to be careful not to come across as too domineering.

I think it's interesting that if Jim had done this in another series, I think his card could have been marked as not sure LS would have been keen to hire somebody that forceful as an Apprentice. But as someone to go into business with? He may just have bought himself a place in the final.

Well, it wasn't exactly the same. Sandeesh, as you put it, squawked" at Larua. Jim very firmly told Leon he should change. Leon asked Jim whether he should change his mind, to which Jim replied "yes, it's obvious", having Leon then repeat those exact words back to him. Then Glynn, rather than asking Leon to change, asked Jim to back him up.

With the girls it was, as you say, chaos. This week, everybody turned to Jim and asked for, and accepted, his decision on the matter. You can't say that Sandeesh was the leader at any point last series, not even when she was PM. Jim was unquestionably the leader in that situation, and has been in a few others.

Jim the Jedi was great in the boardroom.He rescued Slimy Vincent from making a complete fool of himself.He may have come across as a bit nasty but he was sticking up for himself. Leon should have chosen Glen in the first place because it was his idea for SLANG A TANG!!!

Besides that i am seduced by the lovely Jim and his lovely accent!

And previous to that Jim had firmly lined up Alex for the boardroom - once he started speaking about him you knew Leon was being heavily influenced to pick him. It was a masterclass in manipluation and taking charge. Simply hilarious when Leon okayed his final decision with Jim

Right now Jim simply is The Daddy. I've not seen a better boadroom performance, he managed to...
- accept responsiblity for what he did wrong, whilst still pointing out that the others had all agreed with what he'd written. He defended his corner brilliantly.
- lined up a candidate for the boardroom
- got out of the boardroom
- stop any protest about it in its tracks
- exposed Leon as weak to both the team and LAS
- kept calm, cool, never bitchy or agressive just very assertive.

Jim is master manipulator. Edna believes she's the top psychologist - she's met her match with him. Can't wait until they're in the same team.

Loved the cold little wink he gave right at the end.

Snap

What did he do exactly that would be so bad if he did it to one of the girls? All he did was contest, with composure, Leon's decision to bring him back in. He didn't pull a knife and threaten to slice his gonads off.

What if he did do the same to 'tiny Susan'? Do you think she should be treated with kid gloves because she's a physically small woman? Sounds a tad patronising to me,

You seem to be portraying Jim as some aggressive pyscho type with anger issues, which is massively far off the mark from what we've seen so far, IMO.

I actually initially thought Leon was being shrewd - I said to my missus "he should take Jim & Alex back in" before he said so, purely because Jim would get Alex fired for him. The last thing you need as PM is two weak performers who are going to try and blame everything on you.

Personally, I think it pretty cowardly to try and dodge the bullet like that.

For instance, I now have much more respect for Debra who just said "bring it on!".




Well, she already implied that herself


Mwah, controlled anger is the same as any other anger for me (Edna would agree with me ).

Just find it curious that people are in love with him after that performance (men wanna be like him and women are in love with him).

Ah well, I am going against the stream with this one.

On a final note, Jim was the cause of them failing the task (which makes it even more perplexing that everybody seems to think he is the best candidate).


- The text was made by Jim
- The failed pitch was led by Jim

Personality before performance

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Cowardly? By disagreeing with the PM in the boardroom about the validity of him being among the worst performers in the task? Come on, I think you're just making this up as you go along!




And? Does that mean you have to agree with her? If she really believes she should be treated differently because of her size or gender then that's a black mark against her in my book.



I didnt even see controlled anger. What I saw was composure and a defence of his position. Besides that incident can you give any more examples of him having 'controlled anger' which are more apparent than any of the other contestants? In any case, people with controlled anger don't, by definition, dish out 'beatings' do they.

And what's 'Mwah' all about?! Isn't that what diva's say when they air-kiss?



Curious that others have a different opinion to you? And I think you're taking other people's stated views on him a bit too literally.


Your choice. But you're not putting your case well, IMO.

And why did the pitch fail? Because the idea was offensive. Who came up with the idea and who backed it? It wasn't all Jim's fault. The idea was offensive, that's what cost them the main magazine advert and that's what cost them the win.

What do you think the final boardroom is for




She oughta know herself best


As for the rest, the last time I have seen someone defend a candidate in such a way was with the badger.

And accusing me of making it up as I go along

Perhaps I am wrong, but that ain't the definition of opinion to me.

He also backed the idea, if I recall correctly.

All that I am saying this that I don't understand the praise for him as best contestant when this clearly isn't the case based on his performance in this task (who knows, perhaps he will actually shine next task).

i think hes brilliant keeps his cool and makes a stand exactly wot the apprentice should be about

he does more in tasks than anyone else so what if his blurb was all wrong at least he done something unlike stay in the van alex

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Ooh, out come the rolleyes! So you think Jim defending himslef at any other point other than the final boardroom is cowardly? Well, I'd have to disagree.


You're confused? Try reading back what you initially said, then my response. This isn't about what she said. It's that you seem to agree with what she said (if indeed she said it). If she's expecting to be treated differently because of her size and gender than I disagree with her - and you, if you agree with her. It's not hard to deduce, Sherlock.


And? what's the signifigance of that in your mind? I could as easily say that last time I saw people make such irrational and negative judgements about a candidate was with the badger. Honestly, getting away with murder, giving out beatings, being a coward...where are you getting all this from?


See above.


I really haven't a clue what you're referring to there.

Nothing manipulative about it. Straightforward telling Leon not to take him into the boardroom, and simply ordering him to change his mind about the decision.

Very strong performance!