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Susan Ma's App: Working Version
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kevsman
16-05-2011
Originally Posted by mazzy50:
“Not a clue. It was hilarious though - as was Dara's version on YF.”

Originally Posted by SeanHunter:
“It was basically an app which allowed you to phone a friend to let them know you were talking to them by telephone. By speaking, you could then exchange information via your voice. When you were finished, you could hang up.

The future has arrived.”

Originally Posted by Whatatool:
“Seriously does no one realise this was AWFULLY edited? She clearly *did* have an idea, which she sort of explained, but they totally edited that part out and instead edited in really awkward and uncomfortable faces, possibly only half of which were to do with Susan's app.

Nobody, I mean nobody, in their right mind, would defend so dearly an *idea* if they had literally said nothing for 30 full seconds up till then. They would realise they're getting nowhere and move on. She clearly had explained something.

I will concede that obviously she could have been a bit more succinct, whatever it was.

I feel a bit sorry for her on this one though.”

I do totally agree that it's been edited badly, its so obvious too. But for those of you who don't know what she was trying to explain:

http://www.peteranswers.com
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_peter_answers_secret
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XY10...eature=related

I used to freak my friends out back at school, it is an awesome idea but I think far too complicated to explain. I don't think I could explain this idea with the angry glare of Edna and a room full of cameras on me! Could you?
Jepson
17-05-2011
Originally Posted by Whatatool:
“Seriously does no one realise this was AWFULLY edited? She clearly *did* have an idea, which she sort of explained, but they totally edited that part out and instead edited in really awkward and uncomfortable faces, possibly only half of which were to do with Susan's app.

Nobody, I mean nobody, in their right mind, would defend so dearly an *idea* if they had literally said nothing for 30 full seconds up till then. They would realise they're getting nowhere and move on. She clearly had explained something.

I will concede that obviously she could have been a bit more succinct, whatever it was.

I feel a bit sorry for her on this one though.”

I'm sure you're absolutely correct.

There is a lot of very dishonest editing on TA.
SeanHunter
17-05-2011
Originally Posted by kevsman:
“I do totally agree that it's been edited badly, its so obvious too. But for those of you who don't know what she was trying to explain:

http://www.peteranswers.com
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_peter_answers_secret
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XY10...eature=related

I used to freak my friends out back at school, it is an awesome idea but I think far too complicated to explain. I don't think I could explain this idea with the angry glare of Edna and a room full of cameras on me! Could you?”

Peter Answers is just a really poor version of the Magic 8Ball - an American toy from the 1960s which you can also play online.

Susan's idea wasn't even as practical as that.

it was basically two people sitting together in a restaurant, texting each other to find out if the other one is actaully there or not.

"Are you there?"

"I'm here, are you there?"

"Yes, I'm here. Where are you?"

Bummer of the season, as far as ideas go.

Susan complains that people (Edna) won't let her speak.

Yet when she does speak she completely embarrasses herself.

I predict a spectacular exit soon.
BMLisa
17-05-2011
I just can'twait for Dara to get her to explain it!

One would hope that she has found a more succint way to put it across but I fear that she still may not be able to describe it to anyone, even in her own head!
kevsman
17-05-2011
Come on guys, give her a break, she's lovely. Clearly not brilliant at articulating herself but she definitely outshined the other candidates in terms of business acumen in the first task.

I think she's super smart, but just lacks confidence when she speaks.
DavetheScot
18-05-2011
Originally Posted by kevsman:
“Come on guys, give her a break, she's lovely. Clearly not brilliant at articulating herself but she definitely outshined the other candidates in terms of business acumen in the first task.

I think she's super smart, but just lacks confidence when she speaks.”

She proved pretty good at selling on the first task, though in fairness her looks are a good asset there. I'd buy stuff from her if I met her out selling as long as it wasn't too expensive, whereas with one of the men I wouldn't.
Tfan26
18-05-2011
When Susan finally managed to explain her app idea after all the gibberish that came before she was pretty much describing google lol.
kevsman
18-05-2011
I hope she manages to build a bit more confidence. She's refreshingly unegotistical, unlike the others, and at 21 she does seem very business minded. Let's see how she performs tonight.
Jack_Burton
18-05-2011
Originally Posted by kevsman:
“I hope she manages to build a bit more confidence. She's refreshingly unegotistical, unlike the others, and at 21 she does seem very business minded. Let's see how she performs tonight.”

Agree - her audition video was refreshingly bereft of the usual self-aggrandising bullsh*t.

However I kinda fear down the road she may get ganged up on like Sara in series 4, and this time there won't be a Raef around to valiantly step in and stem the vile haranguing.
Carlisle156
18-05-2011
Her idea, from what I understood, actually sounded pretty good. Although it's obviously been done already.

What I got from it was that the "App" would use some form of GPS to track the users current location, or the current location of the ipod/phone in question. Which could be used to prevent crime (stealing of phones) but also if you are lost.

If you are lost, how are you supposed to find your current location? We've all had a moment when looking on a map to find where something is and not having any idea where you currently are/how to go get there. Here app would allow you to easily find out where you are which would then make the next step easier. ^^

That, plus lots of editing, appeared to have been that "segment"...
Jack_Burton
19-05-2011
Glad Susan demostrated this evening that, in Nick's words, she is "quite a little force to be reckoned with"

I should hope so.

Taking into account her leadership skills, business acumen, blah blah - mainly her Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Susan...23095334369428) in fact - I have arrived at a carefully considered conclusion:

I would.

Why not?
Le4
19-05-2011
Haha, I love Susan. She's my fave.


"Please let me explain my idea!" *pout*
diary_room
19-05-2011
I don't think she did know what her idea was. It wasn't the petersanswers thing. How would that be an app? Doesn't work. She was on a stream on consiousness and it never came together in her mind.

But she is clearly a smart girl: Look at her company

http://www.tropicskincare.com/

Amazing for a 20 something.
brangdon
19-05-2011
Originally Posted by Jack_Burton:
“Glad Susan demostrated this evening that, in Nick's words, she is "quite a little force to be reckoned with"”

Although she was a disaster as team leader.
Jepson
19-05-2011
Originally Posted by brangdon:
“Although she was a disaster as team leader.”

ROFLMAO.

Have you been watching a different edit again?
brangdon
19-05-2011
Gavin was also a disaster; luckily for Susan, a slightly bigger one. He only got 6 of 10 items! That's bad however you look at it. Since Susan beat him by less than 1%, her team also performed really badly; they were virtually the same. She didn't lose, but would have done if Gavin's team had been only slightly better.

It's pretty clear Susan's team went to locations that were too expensive and therefore paid too much. And that is something which I think a team leader has at least some responsibility for.
Jepson
19-05-2011
Originally Posted by brangdon:
“Gavin was also a disaster; luckily for Susan, a slightly bigger one. He only got 6 of 10 items! That's bad however you look at it. Since Susan beat him by less than 1%, her team also performed really badly; they were virtually the same. She didn't lose, but would have done if Gavin's team had been only slightly better.”

And had she been luckier with her choice of tea supplier she would have beaten the other team by a country mile.

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“It's pretty clear Susan's team went to locations that were too expensive and therefore paid too much. And that is something which I think a team leader has at least some responsibility for.”

Except that we saw and heard her specifically tell the team to try for more Easterly suppliers.

They ignored this but they did it during a part of the task where they were operating individually and it would have been absurd micro management had Susan been standing over them questioning the location of suppliers they were trying.

Typically with this programme we didn't get to the bottom of that but I'm inclined to give her the benefit of the doubt and hold the others responsible for disobeying her very sensible instructions.
brangdon
19-05-2011
Originally Posted by Jepson:
“And had she been luckier with her choice of tea supplier she would have beaten the other team by a country mile.”

It wasn't luck. It was obviously an expensive shop.

Quote:
“Except that we saw and heard her specifically tell the team to try for more Easterly suppliers.”

She should have monitored her team a bit more closely. Getting status reports isn't the same as micro-managing.

Of course the team members are also responsible. And if they hadn't got it wrong, Susan's lack of control wouldn't have mattered. She also got a lot right, so I don't think she'd have been fired had the other team done better. However, she took her eye off the ball on something that happened to be crucial.
jonny1973
19-05-2011
If you're you and I'm me and we don't know where we are, so I say, "yeah" and look on my phone and it tells me where we are.

Isn't that Google Maps?

How could the developers re-invent Google Maps overnight?
Jack_Burton
19-05-2011
Ultimately, the best people to judge Susan's PM ability were those who worked in her team and when Sir Alan asked them if she was any good it was a unanimous "yes"

But then I'd still sing her praises if she ordered me to negotiate down the price of poncy tea by turning into an ice-skating mongoose and dancing the Fandango
Jack_Burton
20-05-2011
or rather, the Bolero

(Red Dwarf )
denvertdino
24-05-2011
She was a very good task manager though - does not seem to match up to how she was portrayed in episode two?
manforktorch
24-05-2011
It was probably a Tea Valuation App.
manforktorch
24-05-2011
Originally Posted by Jepson:
“And had she been luckier with her choice of tea supplier she would have beaten the other team by a country mile.



Except that we saw and heard her specifically tell the team to try for more Easterly suppliers.

They ignored this but they did it during a part of the task where they were operating individually and it would have been absurd micro management had Susan been standing over them questioning the location of suppliers they were trying.

Typically with this programme we didn't get to the bottom of that but I'm inclined to give her the benefit of the doubt and hold the others responsible for disobeying her very sensible instructions.”

She would have beaten them by a country mile if she had had the foresight to find out what she should have been paying and turning down the £400 offer and taking the fine.
unclekevo
24-05-2011
So basically the application was a cutting edge app which would see her phoning someone to see if they were on the phone to the person
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