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FOXSAT HDR - New loader and Firmware
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REPASSAC
01-06-2011
Originally Posted by Mark C:
“Yep, didn't work. V1 does.”

I was referring to what you previously had installed - not where you were downloading?
adamcovfan
01-06-2011
i was looking to purchase a wd live hub but seems this might do the same thing so doownloaded films can be played on it to ? mines all networked up using cat6 cable
Mark C
01-06-2011
Originally Posted by REPASSAC:
“I don't think there is much change of bricking it unless you play around with the loader.”

That's good ! Anyway, I've got my ftp functionality back so I'm happy.

For clarity, I've been using V1 for about 6 weeks, OTA upgraded, and tried V3, no luck, put V1 back on, and fine.

Something quite separate, after the firmware upgrade, it took ages before I could set a new recording, it just kept coming up with a banner, 'Still waiting for broadcast info to load' (or words to that effect)

I had to leave it about 30 mins. Any ideas why ?
REPASSAC
01-06-2011
Originally Posted by Mark C:
“That's good ! Anyway, I've got my ftp functionality back so I'm happy.

For clarity, I've been using V1 for about 6 weeks, OTA upgraded, and tried V3, no luck, put V1 back on, and fine.

Something quite separate, after the firmware upgrade, it took ages before I could set a new recording, it just kept coming up with a banner, 'Still waiting for broadcast info to load' (or words to that effect)

I had to leave it about 30 Min's. Any ideas why ?”

1.00.15 Insists on a EPG update for security, This normally takes 28-46 seconds. 30 Min's would suggest a poor freesat transponder signal.

A lot has changed from V1 of the bundle [and from mogie's version] I think if you are not on V3 I would suggest that from the V3 package the .hdf, the uninstall_ALL and the packages you want - READ the readme.txt for FTP passwords and ID's. etc.

GT - Freesat transponder frequency please if you are following.
Mark C
01-06-2011
Originally Posted by REPASSAC:
“1.00.15 Insists on a EPG update for security, This normally takes 28-46 seconds. 30 Min's would suggest a poor freesat transponder signal.”

Well, it's on Eurobird somewhere, all the channels on EB (or for that matter Astra) read 95/100%.

Originally Posted by REPASSAC:
“A lot has changed from V1 of the bundle [and from mogie's version] I think if you are not on V3 I would suggest that from the V3 package the .hdf, the uninstall_ALL and the packages you want - READ the readme.txt for FTP passwords and ID's. etc.”

I did, and just have again, it must be the 'wood for the trees' because all I can see is the original "HumaxFTP" and "0000" ?

Not to worry, it's doing all I need it to again
carvell
01-06-2011
Did you install the FTP application? It's not there by default with V3.
REPASSAC
01-06-2011
Originally Posted by Mark C:
“Well, it's on Eurobird somewhere, all the channels on EB (or for that matter Astra) read 95/100%.

I did, and just have again, it must be the 'wood for the trees' because all I can see is the original "HumaxFTP" and "0000" ?

Not to worry, it's doing all I need it to again”

Try a freesat tune and do not save results - back to guide any difference?

To check the signal on any frequency you need to do a manual tune for that frequency.
try 11428 H 27500 2/3 if you don't see 11428 on your box try the nearest 11427?
Mark C
01-06-2011
Originally Posted by REPASSAC:
“Try a freesat tune and do not save results - back to guide any difference?”

Yes, much faster now, able to select a recording after 20-30 secs, but this is a retrograde step. I seem to recall before the upgrade I didn't have to wait ?

Originally Posted by REPASSAC:
“To check the signal on any frequency you need to do a manual tune for that frequency.
try 11428 H 27500 2/3 if you don't see 11428 on your box try the nearest 11427?”

I get 100% signal, 100% quaility, it's the best of all the t/ps !
Mark C
01-06-2011
Originally Posted by carvell:
“Did you install the FTP application? It's not there by default with V3.”

No, just the .hdf file, that's where I went wrong I think ?
carvell
01-06-2011
Originally Posted by Mark C:
“No, just the .hdf file, that's where I went wrong I think ?”

Yeah that'll be it.

The readme tells you how to install TinyFTP. All you have to do is copy the installer to the USB stick and boot the HDR with it plugged in.
REPASSAC
01-06-2011
Originally Posted by Mark C:
“No, just the .hdf file, that's where I went wrong I think ?”

NO - it is just the structure was different in V1.
Future releases will be based upon the current structure (I think).

For a full upgrade delete the opt folder in ftp and reinstall following r3 instructions and downloads.
REPASSAC
01-06-2011
Originally Posted by Mark C:
“Yes, much faster now, able to select a recording after 20-30 secs, but this is a retrograde step. I seem to recall before the upgrade I didn't have to wait ?

I get 100% signal, 100% quaility, it's the best of all the t/ps !”

That is so. I presume this is for a reason.
Mark C
01-06-2011
Originally Posted by REPASSAC:
“That is so. I presume this is for a reason.”

Umm, interesting !

Anyway, thank you for your patience with me tonight Repassac
grahamlthompson
01-06-2011
Originally Posted by REPASSAC:
“1.00.15 Insists on a EPG update for security, This normally takes 28-46 seconds. 30 Min's would suggest a poor freesat transponder signal.

A lot has changed from V1 of the bundle [and from mogie's version] I think if you are not on V3 I would suggest that from the V3 package the .hdf, the uninstall_ALL and the packages you want - READ the readme.txt for FTP passwords and ID's. etc.

GT - Freesat transponder frequency please if you are following.”

Just come back from playing Badminton. 11427 H (use Ch 999 and press opt+ for a quick sig strength/quality assesment.
grahamlthompson
01-06-2011
Originally Posted by Mark C:
“Yes, much faster now, able to select a recording after 20-30 secs, but this is a retrograde step. I seem to recall before the upgrade I didn't have to wait ?



I get 100% signal, 100% quaility, it's the best of all the t/ps !”

Instead of guide press schedule and then red. Even on V1.00.13 the epg was sluggish using guide until tuner 1 downloading a new epg is released to create the background video/audio. 100/100 is very good for EB1 transponders.
Mark C
01-06-2011
Originally Posted by grahamlthompson:
“Instead of guide press schedule and then red. Even on V1.00.13 the epg was sluggish using guide until tuner 1 downloading a new epg is released to create the background video/audio.”

That's much better, thanks ! How does that method differ for downloading the EPG data ?

Originally Posted by grahamlthompson:
“100/100 is very good for EB1 transponders.”

65cm Lenson Heath dish, and a first class rigger who took his time to line the dish and LNB up.
grahamlthompson
01-06-2011
Originally Posted by Mark C:
“That's much better, thanks ! How does that method differ for downloading the EPG data ?



65cm Lenson Heath dish, and a first class rigger who took his time to line the dish and LNB up.”

The epg is delivered in two ways

1 All at once in one big chunk, this requires tuner1 to get all the data from the Freesat transponder on Eurobird 1. This is why you lose the background video and audio after pressing guide (unless tuner 1 is recording) and why the query about signal quality from this specific transponder.

A copy of the epg is cached onto the hdd and this is constantly serviced by data transmitted along with the video and audio of the normal freesat channels. This means that at least for the next day or so the cached epg is up to date anyway. The full epg is refreshed overnight anyway by the housekeeping routines the hdr carries out.

Pressing schedule/red simply loads the cached epg from the hdd which is near instantaneous. No tuner is needed, if tuner 1 is committed to a recording pressing guide does the same as schedule/red.

The cached epg can be accessed at almost any time to set a recording. For instance while recording two and watching a third existing recording (or a third live channel from the ones that are available with the current pair of recordings).



Really you only need guide when starting with an empty epg after a factory reset. Once fully populated you can simply use the cached one.
adamcovfan
02-06-2011
once raydons bundles installed is it case of dragging and dropping bluray rips onto the humax hdr after ive encoded them with whichever program the humax will play them ?.
Bob Warriner
02-06-2011
Originally Posted by REPASSAC:
“Yes - Your link is well out of date - Raydon has now released " Media & File Server Bundle for the Foxsat HDR - Release 3" - currenly on update level 3c.

To re-enable release 3 simply reflash raydons .hdf. There is no need to reinstall the packages.”

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I haven't tried to install Rayon's package, what am I going to gain by doing so...is this something that would allow more access to the Internet..if so, what.
Rgds Bob.
REPASSAC
02-06-2011
Originally Posted by adamcovfan:
“once raydons bundles installed is it case of dragging and dropping bluray rips onto the humax hdr after ive encoded them with whichever program the humax will play them ?.”

The HDR required the files to be MPEG-2 coded as transport stream files (.ts). AV2HDR will translate some formats and prepare two support files needed by the HDR. However it may be necessary depending on source format to use another converter as well.
REPASSAC
02-06-2011
Originally Posted by Bob Warriner:
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I haven't tried to install Rayon's package, what am I going to gain by doing so...is this something that would allow more access to the Internet..if so, what.
Rgds Bob.”

raydon's Media and File Server Bundle for the Humax FoxsatHDR - Release 3
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APPLICATIONS
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TinyFTP
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A ftp server

vsFTPd
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Another FTP server to choose from

Telnet
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A telnet server

Dropbear SSH Server
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A secure alternative to telnet.

TwonkyMedia DLNA Server
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A DLNA server to enable streaming from the HDR to DLNA aware devices (SomeTV's etc)

MediaTomb DLNS Server
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MediaTomb is a freeware DLNA server that can be installed as an alternative to TwonkyMedia.

Samba
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A server whioch makes shares the HDR media folders on your home network

Mongoose
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Mongoose is a simple web server giving access to your media files via a web browser.
Point your browser to http://Foxsat-HDR for access.
grahamlthompson
02-06-2011
Originally Posted by adamcovfan:
“once raydons bundles installed is it case of dragging and dropping bluray rips onto the humax hdr after ive encoded them with whichever program the humax will play them ?.”

No, basically use tsmuxergui to join the .mts files into one big h264 file. (add the first and join the others), There's no need to recode, blu-ray uses the same h264/mpeg4-AVC file compression as HD TV and AVCHD camcorders. The files will a lot larger than broadcast HD recordings simply because of the bitrate used. Expect around 25GB for an average movie.

AV2HDR will load the .mts and create 3 files xxxx.ts, xxxx.hmt and xxx.nts. The three files need to be either uploaded to the hdr's video directory or will play back directly from an EXT3 usb drive attached

You can use the same technique to join the mpeg2 .vob files from a SD source. AV2HDR will load the big vob just like the big .mts.

If you want to edit and join .mts then the H264 version of Videoredo TVsuite is the bees knees. Not free like TSmuxergui though.
Jepson
03-06-2011
Originally Posted by grahamlthompson:
“Indeed Humax can't win on this one.

They respond to user requests to make the update provision invisible like on Sky and other freesat kit and from posters complaining the update message and default time out interferes with scheduled recordings. What happens, some complain they prefer the original approach ”

But their scheme isn't really 'invisible', is it?

If channels disappear for most of the day it's actually pretty visible.

The implementation was fouled up in the first place and they can't sort it out without doing a major rewrite to use the information in the EPG to place channels rather than doing a complete scan.

Technically, dynamically updating their channel structure from the EPG is a more complex and demanding task than just wapping everything and starting again from scratch (which is what a rescan does) which is undoubtably why Humax went down that route.
Freesat_Fan
12-06-2011
IF guide button pressed AND full EPG already downloaded today THEN goto guide cache

How hard can it be?

Sick of the picture disappearing every time the guide is pressed. The workaround with the red button is cumbersome.
Flyer 10
12-06-2011
Originally Posted by Freesat_Fan:
“IF guide button pressed AND full EPG already downloaded today THEN goto guide cache

How hard can it be?

Sick of the picture disappearing every time the guide is pressed. The workaround with the red button is cumbersome.”

i know, guide should bring up the cached EPG and then there should be a separate option if you want to download a fresh EPG and then all this nonsense would have been avoided.
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