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McDonalds - Great Tastes of America
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Paul1511
16-05-2012
I actually had another Chicago Burger today, again it was very nice indeed (in the context of fast food burgers) but again, I still don't really see the relevance of Chicago - it's just a generic burger that could be from just about anywhere.

I'm looking forward to the Arizona burger, because I do really like the ingredients (Pepperoni and Pepper Cheese), but once again I fail to see how these ingredients relate to Arizona any more than they relate to other regions of the US.
walterwhite
16-05-2012
Originally Posted by MTUK1:
“Again, I think you're making excuses for McDonald's being lazy here in the UK. I think Angus Burgers would go down well over here along with products like McGriddles. We are not that different in tastes with Australia and the USA.”

Our tastes are very different to the U.S.

I trust McDonalds marketing department know a touch more about this than you and I.
big_hard_lad
16-05-2012
Originally Posted by walterwhite:
“Our tastes are very different to the U.S.

I trust McDonalds marketing department know a touch more about this than you and I.”

Are they? In what respect.

I'd expect that American chains wouldn't do well here then
route 101
16-05-2012
Had the Arizona Nacho Grande today , was OK but couldnt taste the Pepperoni Slices but the Cheese had a strong flavour. Came in a Big Tasty box.

Classic at the Till though.

Customer : Is that the same burger as last week they look all the same?

Staff: Nope this is a new one and is completely different.

Customer : Oh ill take that then.
walterwhite
17-05-2012
Originally Posted by big_hard_lad:
“Are they? In what respect.

I'd expect that American chains wouldn't do well here then ”

You only have to look at what is popular in the U.S. and not here. BBQ is the biggest example, plus there was the thread the other day that pointed out KFC don't sell fries in the U.S.
big_hard_lad
17-05-2012
Originally Posted by walterwhite:
“You only have to look at what is popular in the U.S. and not here. BBQ is the biggest example, plus there was the thread the other day that pointed out KFC don't sell fries in the U.S.”

Firstly, BBQ is popular here....we just don't have the same form of BBQ heritage that the US has.

Secondly...the fact that KFC in the US sells potato wedges instead of fries, hardly makes our tastes "very different".

I don't pretend to be an expert in American cuisine, but as a few posters on here know, I spend quite a bit of time on the other side of the Atlantic with work. I've been in the US nearly 100 times in the last 5 or 6 years and I've visited 30 odd of the 50 states. The fact of the matter is, our tastes are pretty similar to theirs. Not identical, granted, but probably closer than most European countries.
walterwhite
17-05-2012
Originally Posted by big_hard_lad:
“Firstly, BBQ is popular here....we just don't have the same form of BBQ heritage that the US has.

Secondly...the fact that KFC in the US sells potato wedges instead of fries, hardly makes our tastes "very different".

I don't pretend to be an expert in American cuisine, but as a few posters on here know, I spend quite a bit of time on the other side of the Atlantic with work. I've been in the US nearly 100 times in the last 5 or 6 years and I've visited 30 odd of the 50 states. The fact of the matter is, our tastes are pretty similar to theirs. Not identical, granted, but probably closer than most European countries.”

It still comes back to the fact that McDonalds obviously think they will make more money by selling the same old burgers and they are probably right so who can blame them.

Plus there is a world of difference between us barbecuing a few burgers on a sunny day and American BBQ.
big_hard_lad
17-05-2012
Originally Posted by walterwhite:
“It still comes back to the fact that McDonalds obviously think they will make more money by selling the same old burgers and they are probably right so who can blame them.

Plus there is a world of difference between us barbecuing a few burgers on a sunny day and American BBQ.”

Oh it definitely comes down to that, I was just saying that I think that the US tastes are quite similar to ours in may ways.

And yes, I know what American BBQ is....and it is growing in popularity in this country. I think it is very suited to our tastes and I'd be surprised if it didn't grow and grow over time.
walterwhite
17-05-2012
Originally Posted by big_hard_lad:
“Oh it definitely comes down to that, I was just saying that I think that the US tastes are quite similar to ours in may ways.

And yes, I know what American BBQ is....and it is growing in popularity in this country. I think it is very suited to our tastes and I'd be surprised if it didn't grow and grow over time.”

It is growing in popularity but you struggle to find proper BBQ outside London.
Paul1511
18-05-2012
The point is though, is that we are talking about McDonalds from country to country.

It's not like they have pulled pork sandwiches in US Mcdonalds either.
walterwhite
19-05-2012
Originally Posted by Paul1511:
“The point is though, is that we are talking about McDonalds from country to country.

It's not like they have pulled pork sandwiches in US Mcdonalds either.”

No they don't, but this is a pretty pointless argument. It suggests we know more about what would sell at McDonalds than they do.
Paul1511
19-05-2012
Originally Posted by walterwhite:
“No they don't, but this is a pretty pointless argument. It suggests we know more about what would sell at McDonalds than they do.”

An argument that you started by implying US tastes were vastly different to the UK.

While I agree there might be some differences, I wouldn't say our food culture is vastly different to the US - if we were comparing it with Asian or African nations for example.

For the purposes of this thread, we are talking burgers. How much difference can there be? It's meat in a bun, with a few toppings, cheeses and sauces. I really don't see that the variety that people have indicated is available in the US wouldn't be popular here.
walterwhite
19-05-2012
Originally Posted by Paul1511:
“An argument that you started by implying US tastes were vastly different to the UK.

While I agree there might be some differences, I wouldn't say our food culture is vastly different to the US - if we were comparing it with Asian or African nations for example.

For the purposes of this thread, we are talking burgers. How much difference can there be? It's meat in a bun, with a few toppings, cheeses and sauces. I really don't see that the variety that people have indicated is available in the US wouldn't be popular here.”

Ok, forget the differences with the U.S. You are still saying you know more about McDonalds customers needs than McDonalds aren't you?
Paul1511
19-05-2012
Originally Posted by walterwhite:
“Ok, forget the differences with the U.S. You are still saying you know more about McDonalds customers needs than McDonalds aren't you?”

I don't think I have stated that as such, merely agreeing with others that some variety would be nice and there is a good chance it would be popular.
walterwhite
19-05-2012
Originally Posted by Paul1511:
“I don't think I have stated that as such, merely agreeing with others that some variety would be nice and there is a good chance it would be popular.”

But you understand the reasons McDonalds stick to what they know sells as well?
route 101
20-05-2012
Decided to try the Arizona Grande as its not a too shabby burger but at Sauchiehall St Mcdonalds i asked for the Arizona only to be presented with the Chicago Supreme which isent any good . They didnt even say that they werent doing the Arizona . Oh well
big_hard_lad
21-05-2012
Originally Posted by walterwhite:
“But you understand the reasons McDonalds stick to what they know sells as well?”

I think everyone understands that, yes. The point (most) people are trying to make is that they think what they sell in the US would also sell well here. Nobody is saying McDonald's don't know what they're doing, they're quite clearly a very successful company who know exactly what they're doing....but an Angus 1/3 pound or a McGriddle would quite possibly go down a treat here too. The other thing (most) people are saying, is that the menu has grown pretty stale over the past few years and a few new, permanent, items would help to keep things fresh.

Why you can't seem to grasp that, without jumping to conclusions that we all think McD's here should be selling biscuits, grits and gravy for breakfast or creole Jambalaya for dinner, I don't know.
walterwhite
21-05-2012
Originally Posted by big_hard_lad:
“I think everyone understands that, yes. The point (most) people are trying to make is that they think what they sell in the US would also sell well here. Nobody is saying McDonald's don't know what they're doing, they're quite clearly a very successful company who know exactly what they're doing....but an Angus 1/3 pound or a McGriddle would quite possibly go down a treat here too. The other thing (most) people are saying, is that the menu has grown pretty stale over the past few years and a few new, permanent, items would help to keep things fresh.

Why you can't seem to grasp that, without jumping to conclusions that we all think McD's here should be selling biscuits, grits and gravy for breakfast or creole Jambalaya for dinner, I don't know.”

I can grasp it fine. I would like more variety as well, but glad we both understand why they do it.
big_hard_lad
21-05-2012
Originally Posted by walterwhite:
“I can grasp it fine. I would like more variety as well, but glad we both understand why they do it.”

That's good....I'm glad we understand each other. I do, however, still disagree with your UK tastes being "very different" to US tastes assessment. Especially, as another poster pointed out, when you compare the cuisines to the rest of the world.
sarahj1986
21-05-2012
[QUOTE=route 101;58253577]Had the Arizona Nacho Grande today , was OK but couldnt taste the Pepperoni Slices but the Cheese had a strong flavour. Came in a Big Tasty box.

Classic at the Till though.

Customer : Is that the same burger as last week they look all the same?

Staff: Nope this is a new one and is completely different.

Customer : Oh ill take that then.[/quote]

BIB agree with you .I couldnt even taste the nachos either-the only reason I got the burger!
far2cool
21-05-2012
I have to admit - I was going through the drive-thru yesterday and there was a poster advertising all 4 and they did all look the same - I think the only noticeable difference was one of them had nachos in it
asyousay
21-05-2012
They could not do a McD's angus here as that is what Burger King do so they must have a deal with Angus in the U.K so you can rule that out.
route 101
21-05-2012
Originally Posted by asyousay:
“They could not do a McD's angus here as that is what Burger King do so they must have a deal with Angus in the U.K so you can rule that out.”

In Australia Hungry Jacks and McDonalds both do Angus burgers , see no reason here .
MTUK1
21-05-2012
Originally Posted by asyousay:
“They could not do a McD's angus here as that is what Burger King do so they must have a deal with Angus in the U.K so you can rule that out.”

They do Angus Burgers in BK US as well. Just because one place does them, it doesn't mean others can't.
route 101
21-05-2012
Originally Posted by sarahj1986:
“[QUOTE=route 101;58253577]Had the Arizona Nacho Grande today , was OK but couldnt taste the Pepperoni Slices but the Cheese had a strong flavour. Came in a Big Tasty box.

Classic at the Till though.

Customer : Is that the same burger as last week they look all the same?

Staff: Nope this is a new one and is completely different.

Customer : Oh ill take that then.”

BIB agree with you .I couldnt even taste the nachos either-the only reason I got the burger![/quote]

Yesterday i asked for a Arizona Grande and was presented with a Chicago Supreme despite the Cashier not apologising and the Grill slip stating the Arizona . I then looked up and the signage above the till was showing the Chicago Supreme . I know its just a Burger
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