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keeping de-sexed dogs trim
Pixie Queen
14-05-2011
My wee boy dog Merlin has just had his balls vanish overnight. Now I would like some tips from the people. How do I make sure he doesn't get fat?

My wee girl dog is a curvy little minx but the vet mentioned today (check up wound day) that Merlin might get fat!

Merlin is only the 2nd little boy dog I or my family has had in 50 years of the same breed . Apparently when a boy dog gets "sorted" he could get fat! Is this right?
jjesso123
14-05-2011
When I had my dal done the vet said the same thing. But dal is still the same healthy weight. as long as he is walked is only eating dog food and dog treats no left overs ! ( I hate people that feed dogs left overs ) then I sure he will be fine.
xdow
14-05-2011
best go back in time then & tell off all those people who kept their dogs on nothing but left overs then

our boys nuts are coming off when i get back from holiday
we're worried about him gaining weight but given enough exercise and just the occasional cooked meal of boiled heart, veg & rice to use up what we have left, we should be okay.
our bitch did gain weight after she was spayed, but she was also quite inactive due to her hips being weird anyway, and she wasn't exactly obese (her highest weight was 23 kilos and she was a border collie)
(the cooked meals used to be a regular thing as our older bitch who passed away last week wouldn't entertain dog food, couldn't give one dog something like that and not the other)

i wouldn't worry yourself tooo much over it, as it is only a possibility at this point
just carry on as you are for now with him and if you notice any gain, you can adjust his diet & amount of exercise accordingly
valeter10
15-05-2011
Not a fan of elective castration. causes more issues than it solves. But I digress. Post surgery we at the practice I work at, advise cutting food back by a third after neutering, male or female. Thats TOTAL food intake.
Its easy to "just keep an eye on things" and then realise 6 months down the line you've not noticed the weight creeping on.
Thankfully my Stafford is a 10 year old v healthy entire male with v little fat on him!
Hogzilla
15-05-2011
My little girl weighs the same post spay as she did pre-. But she's not a big eater - never was.
Johnny Cash
15-05-2011
Originally Posted by valeter10:
“Not a fan of elective castration. causes more issues than it solves. But I digress. Post surgery we at the practice I work at, advise cutting food back by a third after neutering, male or female. Thats TOTAL food intake.
Its easy to "just keep an eye on things" and then realise 6 months down the line you've not noticed the weight creeping on.
Thankfully my Stafford is a 10 year old v healthy entire male with v little fat on him!”

No probs with him wanting to 'stray' etc.?

Have you ever mated him?

I'm caught between having mine done or not. He's an 8 month old staffy cross. The vet said we should have got him done at 6 months but I wanted at least to let him develope first.

Now I've read some stuff that says don't get it done at all.
molliepops
15-05-2011
Too much food in and not enough exercise is as far as I am aware the only thing causes dogs to be over weight none of ours have out on weight just because we neutered them.
valeter10
15-05-2011
Originally Posted by Johnny Cash:
“No probs with him wanting to 'stray' etc.?

Have you ever mated him?

I'm caught between having mine done or not. He's an 8 month old staffy cross. The vet said we should have got him done at 6 months but I wanted at least to let him develope first.

Now I've read some stuff that says don't get it done at all.”

He's never wanted to stray, and never had the chance to. That's a bit of an old wives tale. He has been used at stud once at 7 years old to preserve his amazing type and rate bloodlines. That resulted in an unforeseen deaf pup, so he won't be bred again. He has not suffered for the stud work, he doesn't fuss for bitches or pee all over the house, as people would have you believe.
There has never been a reason to castrate him, and he won't be unless for medical reasons, and they are rarer than what is bandied about.
I'd strongly advise against castration before your dog is 18 months old, you risk infantising him and he may grow overly tall as growth and sex hormones are closely linked. A tall staff cross could be pit bull type.
Also do not think castration will reduce dog aggression if it exists, Staffords etc have it in their blood so to speak. If they want to be scrappy they will be.
Castrate for man aggression and you could make things much much worse, most aggression is fear based. Remove testosterone from a nervy dog, he will likely get worse not better.
Pixie Queen
15-05-2011
Originally Posted by valeter10:
“Not a fan of elective castration. causes more issues than it solves. But I digress. Post surgery we at the practice I work at, advise cutting food back by a third after neutering, male or female. Thats TOTAL food intake.
Its easy to "just keep an eye on things" and then realise 6 months down the line you've not noticed the weight creeping on.
Thankfully my Stafford is a 10 year old v healthy entire male with v little fat on him!”

Merlin developed a lump under his tail above his anus and the vet told me it was caused by testosterone. It looked like someone was pushing a finger through his skin. He was given a jag and I was told that it may reduce the lump but it may not and if it did it might come back.The vet also told me it was probably benign. The lump didn't reduce in size and I was advised to have the lump removed and for him to be desexed. He's not aggressive, doesn't stray and is a very gentle wee dog. He has also figured out how to get his lampshade off - walk under a dining room chair and reverse at the right angle. I have now looped his collar through the lampshade. He doesn't over eat, if anything he's very picky unlike the majority of corgis and at the moment is very lean.

Thanks for the advice people and although it will be difficult for me I will reduce his rations. It wont do Pixie any harm to have hers reduced as well. She is curvacious and has that inbuilt trigger most corgis have - stop eating one mouthful short of bursting.
valeter10
15-05-2011
Sounds like an anal adenoma which is one of very few reasons for castration if medical treatment didn't work.
I do get on my high horse about elective castration though, there is very rarely need for it, unlike speying which is more advantageous surgery.
Pixie Queen
15-05-2011
Originally Posted by valeter10:
“Sounds like an anal adenoma which is one of very few reasons for castration if medical treatment didn't work.
I do get on my high horse about elective castration though, there is very rarely need for it, unlike speying which is more advantageous surgery.”

When I got Pixie I asked the vet about speying and he advised to wait till 3 months after her first season as her body would be mature then and her hormones would be back to a normal level. She had her 1st season and I booked her in for 3 months later. Before the three months (about 2 or 3 weeks before) were up she developed pyometra. I know this is unusual in such a young bitch but I actually thought Merlin had had his leg over as she was showing all the signs of a dog getting ready to give birth, making little nests in hard to reach places and licking her bits. Then she had an awful green discharge and I called the emergency vet. I had to dash late one Saturday evening to the surgery where she had her op. The vet said if I had waited till the following day we could have lost her. She was very poorly for a long time after.

I was horrified that we hadn't been careful when she was in season when I initially thought she may be about to have pups. I leave breeding pups to the people who know what they are doing. I don't include puppy farm slime in this though.
Porcupine
17-05-2011
My boy was done about 6 years ago now and he hasnt put on weight. He does get an awful lot of exercise though off the lead, and i have always measured his food out.
tinyangel
17-05-2011
Originally Posted by molliepops:
“Too much food in and not enough exercise is as far as I am aware the only thing causes dogs to be over weight none of ours have out on weight just because we neutered them.”

Quite agree! My bitch is as fit as the day she was spayed. Same food, same exercise, no change,
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