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I assume the fact that 49% of hollyoaks audience is in its favour, hence all the Product Placement talk.
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We are big Doctor Who fans but recorded it last night because the rest of the schedule surrounding it is not our cup of tea. So we chose to watch ITV and record Doctor Who.
That is how it is in this day and age. If you are watching for an evening and it is not easy to simply switch from one channel to another via coordinated schedules then you watch live the channel you have more shows on. Doctor Who has suffered from that factor simply because almost nobody wanted to watch the shows surrounding it on BBC 1. Simple. Maybe the BBC should just recommission Cat Deeley and Nigel Lythgoe to revive/revamp Stars in Their Eyes and run it not just for fun but as a proper competition with semi finals and finals. Cannot possibly do worse than SYTYCD and would I am sure fit a Saturday audience well. I know it was an ITV show but ITV do not want it any more and Cat is now with the beeb. At least it would be something a bit different from another X Factor clone like The Voice yet fit the passion for talent/singing shows. |
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for discussion purposes how does HO compare to the other "teen soaps" Home & Away and Neighbours in terms of raw numbers?
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Here's those demos: http://i51.tinypic.com/4g5bf6.jpg
Interesting skew for The Million Pound Drop, skews young but at the same time the 65+ percentage is high.
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I find the comparison to something like HIGNFY to be a bit irrelevant because they're too completely different genres. It's comparing apples with oranges: one is a panel show, a genre which traditionally appeals to younger viewers, whilst the other one is a Sunday night crime drama, which nearly always have elderly audiences, usually with 16-34 skews of 5-12% which was no different in this case either. So it's not something which is particularly surprising or "startling" IMHO because S&B just followed the usual age trend for its genre.
It might be irrelevant to you, but it wasn't to me, obviously. Everyone's interpretation is different.
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for discussion purposes how does HO compare to the other "teen soaps" Home & Away and Neighbours in terms of raw numbers?
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for discussion purposes how does HO compare to the other "teen soaps" Home & Away and Neighbours in terms of raw numbers?
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You've asked this before. You know the answer of course. Are you purposely wasting rzt's time or are you just trying to get on my wick again?
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Considering Camelot begins on Saturday have C4 advertised it at all yet?
It's got that bloke off of FlashForward in it! |
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Here's the demos from last Monday for the three early-evening soaps: http://i51.tinypic.com/11j4qo9.jpg
btw I didnt realise we had new mod's I wonder what the old mod's will think? |
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Those aussie soaps skew really old. Never realised.
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I don't think we've seen the demo numbers for Home and Away and Neighbours before (I may be wrong) so a valid comparison I think. Seems like Hollyoaks clearly wins in the 16 to 34 demo so its a moot point anyway.
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Thanks rzt. The only comment I will make is that I think Hollyoaks can fall quite a bit before it will get cancelled as its demos are really advertiser friendly.
Decent demos for Hollyoaks that day but even with such a high 16-34 skew, overall ratings as low as 600-700k like Thu/Fri would result in some relatively low 16-34 numbers for those particular episodes. Let's not forget this is a show, which not too long ago, was capable of 1.5m+ for its C4 airings. |
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Those aussie soaps skew really old. Never realised.
Compare to a typical Channel 5 programme, or indeed an average programme on any channel, and the demos are not that bad at all. |
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In terms of the comparison, I'd imagine Hollyoaks costs C4 much more than Neighbours/H&A does for C5 though?
At the time it was said to be http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2007...oadcasting.bbc "the best part of £300m for a 10 year deal" so that would make it about £100k per day. I know that gets multiple screenings, but HO cant cost much more than that per episode? |
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those numbers are surprising
---------------- ------ 19-34 45+ Hollyoaks ------ 49% 28% Neighbours---- 13% 69% Home & Away 14% 73% who would have thought Neighborus & Home & Away woud be so old, was that the case on the BBC, or did the show loose its young auidence when it moved to Channel 5? |
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Oh FFS. Anything would "skew really old" compared to Hollyoaks. It's the most pointless comparison on earth!
Compare to a typical Channel 5 programme, or indeed an average programme on any channel, and the demos are not that bad at all. Is this subject off limits or something ? |
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You are wrong, we have. And it's a moot point because Hollyoaks is a teen soap and Home & Away and Neighbours are not.
I know its a moot point now, but I didn't know that before seeing the breakdown did I? You have strong views about C5, but I don't think the above comment or the one to square_eyes is necessary. square_eyes is just stating a fact, not everyone realises what may seem to others to be the 'obvious'. |
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those numbers are surprising
---------------- ------ 19-34 45+ Hollyoaks ------ 49% 28% Neighbours---- 13% 69% Home & Away 14% 73% who would have thought Neighborus & Home & Away woud e so old, was that the case on the BBC, or did the show loose its young auidence when it moved to Channel 5? |
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Oh come on. I don't remember seeing them before, so there's no harm in having them posted. Plus we haven't had a direct comparison before either.
I know its a moot point now, but I didn't know that before seeing the breakdown did I? You have strong views about C5, but I don't think the above comment or the one to square_eyes is necessary. square_eyes is just stating a fact, not everyone realises what may seem to others to be the 'obvious'. |
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For kicks, Neighbours on ELEVEN (Thursday 2nd June)
Total 328,000 16-39 160,000 That being 48.8% |
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Oh come on. I don't remember seeing them before, so there's no harm in having them posted. Plus we haven't had a direct comparison before either.
I know its a moot point now, but I didn't know that before seeing the breakdown did I? You have strong views about C5, but I don't think the above comment or the one to square_eyes is necessary. square_eyes is just stating a fact, not everyone realises what may seem to others to be the 'obvious'. |
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Except they DON'T skew that old. The 18-49 skew is about 30%, not that far off EE and Corrie's 40%, and about level with Emmerdale. The story from these demos is NOT how badly H&A and Neighbours are doing, but how well Hollyoaks is doing in that particular respect. We do forget that sometimes, so perhaps it was worth a reminder. But unfortunately some are looking at them together and adding 2+2 and getting 5.
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For kicks, Neighbours on ELEVEN (Thursday 2nd June)
Total 328,000 16-39 160,000 That being 48.8% |
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We are big Doctor Who fans but recorded it last night because the rest of the schedule surrounding it is not our cup of tea. So we chose to watch ITV and record Doctor Who.
That is how it is in this day and age. If you are watching for an evening and it is not easy to simply switch from one channel to another via coordinated schedules then you watch live the channel you have more shows on. Doctor Who has suffered from that factor simply because almost nobody wanted to watch the shows surrounding it on BBC 1. Simple. Maybe the BBC should just recommission Cat Deeley and Nigel Lythgoe to revive/revamp Stars in Their Eyes and run it not just for fun but as a proper competition with semi finals and finals. Cannot possibly do worse than SYTYCD and would I am sure fit a Saturday audience well. I know it was an ITV show but ITV do not want it any more and Cat is now with the beeb. At least it would be something a bit different from another X Factor clone like The Voice yet fit the passion for talent/singing shows. SYTYCD has been a failure far more than anyone, including BBC execs, ever bargained for. It looks like a limp lettuce compared to BGT, and I reckon there must be much gnashing of teeth and pulling of hair as to what to do to bring some life back to Saturdays. If ITV buy The Voice just because they can and Lloyd Webber is a no go-what on earth will populate the prime entertainment slots next year? Do we have any confidence in the BBC coming up with a new exciting concept in house? |
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Interesting skew for The Million Pound Drop, skews young but at the same time the 65+ percentage is high.
