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And as for Corrie:
Last night... 19:30- Coronation Street: 8.9m (42.9%) 20:30- Coronation Street: 9.2m (38.7%) Two Weeks ago... 19:30- Coronation Street: 9.1m (40.3%) 20:30- Coronation Street: 9.0m (36.6%) Including +1. Didn't gain much. If anything. |
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Why, why, why do broadcasters' put two dramas opposite each other in the middle of Summer? I don't understand the point of it, how is anything these days meant to be a hit if you're going to put two dramas up against each other.
As a result, both were dented by 0.5m, probably more. Don't understand schedulers sometimes, they need to co-operate every so often. Probably a result of the ever more common 'stripped schedule' tactic nowadays... Quote:
rzt, back to Sunday, do you have a breakdown for ITV in primetime? Am interested to see the Popstar to Operastar breakdowns in particular if you have them. Here's the ITV1 breakdown from Sunday (did you mean 5-min or demo breakdown?):
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That breakdown makes for interesting reading-thanks rzt. The Royal's increase over the hour suggests it would be above 5m in an 8pm slot, but I can understand why the better slot was given to Popstar when it has more chance of recomission. At least Popstar was stable which bodes well for next week. Likewise for S&B, the increase towards the end is a positive sign for next week and I reckon there will be a larger drop for Case Sensitive.
The Popstar results show is just bizarre though and seems like an afterthought. |
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Yeah, I meant 5-minute breakdown, thanks.
Seems like the audience deserted Popstar to Operastar pretty quickly after Scott & Bailey and The Royal, the latter doing well peaking at 5.1m.Scott & Bailey was stable. |
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It needs to have a nice long rest this summer and come back with some new ideas in August. This series has been very poor both in content terms and ratings terms.
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Do you know how many more series of The Gadget Show they have to do under the current contract? As you said, they'll need to improve the content because ratings have fallen significantly in a year. If the ratings don't improve next series, I think it could even be axed. Repeats in that slot would surely be capable of better?
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Speaking of Channel 5, do you think putting repeats of US crime dramas at 8pm on some weeknights would work? In the US, dramas like NCIS go out at 8pm. I only ask because if BB does take the 10pm slot, I wonder where the CSI and Law & Order repeats will go? I think they would be capable of a solid 1m (in particular CSI) at 8pm and that would also help C5 save some money, rather than putting those repeats on 5USA and spending money on dedicated 8pm programming, some of which don't do so well.
Maybe on CSI Tuesday they will air classic Vegas at 8pm followed by all new Miami at 9pm and Big Brother at 10pm. That would be a strong lineup IMO. I think Criminal Intent will be moving to Saturdays because a new series is due, so the repeats won't need to be scheduled for a while anyway. Generally 5USA is the go-to place for fans of these US crime dramas, with mostly new seasons on Channel 5, and I suspect this will continue to be the case. In addition 5* will be rerunning Season 2 of The Mentalist on Thursday nights over the summer. As for spending money on dedicated 8pm programming, I think all the signs are there that they will continue to do that, hence the current on air push for the 8 O'Clock Heroes strand. The recent ratings decline in that timeslot is concerning, but I don't think it will deter them yet. Walking The Amazon is a brilliant looking two-part documentary coming up in the next couple of weeks. I think it could be going at 8pm on either Tuesday or Wednesday (possibly both) and could do really well. |
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I dont know how you define Summer, but coming back in August would not be the same as "a nice long rest this summer"
Assuming it follows the usual pattern, it will be back in August. And I think they'll want to bring it back then as the channel should be in a much healthier position generally. |
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August is a summer month as far as I and 99% of school hoildays are concerned.
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The Popstar results show is just bizarre though and seems like an afterthought.
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Yeah, I meant 5-minute breakdown, thanks.
Seems like the audience deserted Popstar to Operastar pretty quickly after Scott & Bailey and The Royal, the latter doing well peaking at 5.1m.Quote:
Maybe on CSI Tuesday they will air classic Vegas at 8pm followed by all new Miami at 9pm and Big Brother at 10pm. That would be a strong lineup IMO.
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As for spending money on dedicated 8pm programming, I think all the signs are there that they will continue to do that, hence the current on air push for the 8 O'Clock Heroes strand. The recent ratings decline in that timeslot is concerning, but I don't think it will deter them yet. Walking The Amazon is a brilliant looking two-part documentary coming up in the next couple of weeks. I think it could be going at 8pm on either Tuesday or Wednesday (possibly both) and could do really well.
Is Cowboy Builders returning later this year too? I agree that they should continue with dedicated 8pm programming most of the time, with maybe just the repeats on Saturday/Sunday/Tuesday. Eddie Stobart, if it's returning, will pull in a solid ~1.5m on Fridays, so that night should be sorted. I wonder if Castle takes off (close to 2m for example) in the next few weeks, if they'll consider showing the next series on Wednesdays at 9pm instead of airing NCIS repeats (they could show the NCIS repeats on another night like Saturdays). As for BB not being shown on Saturday nights, I think this would be a good idea - Saturday nights will be too competitive. TXF will be over by 9pm but IAC will be there later in the Autumn and BB generally did a lot worse on Saturdays than other nights. They should drop that episode and maybe have an extended Sunday episode. Just thinking about Fridays which is when the eviction shows will most likely be, something like: 20:00- Eddie Stobart, 21:00- BB, 21:30- [New Panel Show], 22:00- BB, 22:30- [New Show] would be a good lineup IMO. It would mean half-an-hour less of BB than what was the case on C4 in recent years but I think BB's 2nd eviction show always did better at 10pm than 10:35pm which is a bit too late. Also this way, two programmes would get a decent boost from BB, whereas if the BB 2nd show was at 10:35pm, I doubt the 11pm would do particularly well as it's late. |
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D.M.N.- do you know roughly what time the F1 race next week will begin and the estimated time it'll finish? I doubt The Royal has as much of an audience crossing over with F1 than Countryfile, so I think it could rate about the same next week or even maybe slightly better, and if the post-race filler is on F1 between 8-8.15pm, PSTOS could take advantage of that by having a headstart over AR.
Obviously may finish later if there are any Safety Cars or Red Flags.And I agree that Popstar to Operastar may benefit because of the F1 post-race stuff. Worth noting though that regardless of the F1 programme finishing time, Antiques Roadshow is not new, its a compilation show. |
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Here's the ITV1 breakdown from Sunday (did you mean 5-min or demo breakdown?): |
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Is Cowboy Builders returning later this year too?
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I agree that they should continue with dedicated 8pm programming most of the time, with maybe just the repeats on Saturday/Sunday/Tuesday. Eddie Stobart, if it's returning, will pull in a solid ~1.5m on Fridays, so that night should be sorted.
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I wonder if Castle takes off (close to 2m for example) in the next few weeks, if they'll consider showing the next series on Wednesdays at 9pm instead of airing NCIS repeats (they could show the NCIS repeats on another night like Saturdays). As for BB not being shown on Saturday nights, I think this would be a good idea - Saturday nights will be too competitive. TXF will be over by 9pm but IAC will be there later in the Autumn and BB generally did a lot worse on Saturdays than other nights. They should drop that episode and maybe have an extended Sunday episode.
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Just thinking about Fridays which is when the eviction shows will most likely be, something like: 20:00- Eddie Stobart, 21:00- BB, 21:30- [New Panel Show], 22:00- BB, 22:30- [New Show] would be a good lineup IMO. It would mean half-an-hour less of BB than what was the case on C4 in recent years but I think BB's 2nd eviction show always did better at 10pm than 10:35pm which is a bit too late. Also this way, two programmes would get a decent boost from BB, whereas if the BB 2nd show was at 10:35pm, I doubt the 11pm would do particularly well as it's late.
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I bet ITV will be below the 3 million tonight apart from 9PM and also many other channels.
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But the shares are up by over 2%. I reckon if it wasn't for the 'big week' then the shares would be the same as two weeks ago and the figures would be down by about 0.5m.
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I bet ITV will be below the 3 million tonight apart from 9PM and also many other channels.
It should top the 2.2m overnight rating for last year's finale which was up against a high rating World Cup game featuring Brazil. I think it might surprise a few people and bring in a season high tonight, say 2.5m-3m. |
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The Restaurant Inspector launched well retaining the bulk of HI lead in, will be interesting how it does when it moves to 9pm.
The Gadget Show IMO needs to go back to basics, I would drop Pollyanna or Ortis or even both and just have the main three. I would also have only two 13 episodes series a year as its clear that 20-21 episodes is too much. |
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That breakdown makes for interesting reading-thanks rzt. The Royal's increase over the hour suggests it would be above 5m in an 8pm slot, but I can understand why the better slot was given to Popstar when it has more chance of recomission. At least Popstar was stable which bodes well for next week. Likewise for S&B, the increase towards the end is a positive sign for next week and I reckon there will be a larger drop for Case Sensitive.
The Popstar results show is just bizarre though and seems like an afterthought. This would, in my opinion, give all programmes the best possible chance of - in the view of an eight week run or whatever - breaking 5m. |
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I think 4.5 million for The Royal is quite acceptable as it does trend mostly among older viewers and probably most people who watched it watched Heartbeat as well. ITV1 will be pleased for a show that they are just going through the motions with now.
Anyway why should something that trends old be such a bad thing? I wonder if some television executives think a lot of old people are sitting in front of a one bar electric fire watching in black and white when in reality most have never had it so good and a lot have quite high disposable incomes. I much prefer shows that trend old such as New Tricks and Taggart to rubbish aimed at a young audience like Hollyoaks and Geordie Shore. |
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Any of you ratings boffins know if Monster Moves is coming back?
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Anyone know how the 6am daybreak hour compares to the gmtv news hour from last year?
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Demographic Information for Sunday 5th June: http://i56.tinypic.com/1109ers.jpg
I've included skews for all 5 terrestrial channel primetime programmes. |
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Not sure I quite agree with that in the sense that - I think Popstar to Opera Star would suit a 6.30pm-8pm slot more and get better ratings there like Dancing on Ice does (with no separate results show - why do ITV persist with these?!)...with The Royal and Scott and Bailey afterwards.
This would, in my opinion, give all programmes the best possible chance of - in the view of an eight week run or whatever - breaking 5m. |
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Demographic Information for Sunday 5th June: http://i56.tinypic.com/1109ers.jpg
I've included skews for all 5 terrestrial channel primetime programmes. Reasonably ABC1's (46%) for PSTOS - versus 46% and 49% for Countryfile and Antiques Roadshow. 500k in the 16-34 range for Pop Star vs 222k for The Royal - so its clear why it got the 8pm slot. |
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Case Histories a pretty well known novel flops as a TV Serial, they must have been expecting to get 7-8M viewers for this. A gargantuan ratings disater.
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Reasonably ABC1's (46%) for PSTOS - versus 46% and 49% for Countryfile and Antiques Roadshow.
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Case Histories a pretty well known novel flops as a TV Serial, they must have been expecting to get 7-8M viewers for this. A gargantuan ratings disater.
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