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The Ratings Thread (Part 20)
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ZoeMcCallister
20-05-2011
Not surprised to see The Royal returning on Sundays-I thought that might happen. It's decent filler for the Summer and after Heartbeat was pulling in a solid 5m+ for its final series I reckon The Royal could do 4m+.

I think it's a great scheduling move to have a Popstar To Operastar show sandwiching BGT-capturing the entertainment/talent show audience and hopefully boosting the series. There's not much else ITV could have boosted in that slot really. It's no worse than using The Prisoner or Mumbai Calling as the lead out.

On Ch5 looks like a big week for them with 3 season finales and the start of The Restaurant Inspector. I reckon it could be a flop though, especially considering Ramsay's dwindling popularity and how The Business Inspector performed.
ZoeMcCallister
20-05-2011
Originally Posted by square_eyes:
“Saturday 11th June should be interesting, I expect it will be a combination of these shows on ITV1.

Odd One In, The Marriage Ref, Penn & Teller: Fool Us.

Although I have no idea in which order, or how long the shows are on for.

Or maybe they'll just shove on a Harry Potter ”

That would be a good schedule, but unfortunately I can't see it doing that well. Everything in that list will struggle to make 4m imo.
Charnham
20-05-2011
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“Not sure when ITV are due to screen it - I think they might go for an early evening 6.30pm slot in the autumn before Harry Hill... Certainly doubt it'll be in as peak a slot as it has been previously.”

works for me.
Score
20-05-2011
Originally Posted by square_eyes:
“Saturday 11th June should be interesting, I expect it will be a combination of these shows on ITV1.

Odd One In, The Marriage Ref, Penn & Teller: Fool Us.

Although I have no idea in which order, or how long the shows are on for.”

Fool Us is starting on the 18th according to Penn on Twitter, and will air at 8pm. That and The Marriage Ref are both an hour and Odd One In is 45 mins, so it'll probably be Odd One In at 19:15 and The Marriage Ref at 21:00 wrapped around Fool Us. With Fool Us on the 18th, they'll probably show the Celebrity Cube that was recorded with the latest series on the 11th. Odd One in will probably start on the 11th, Marriage Ref maybe a couple of weeks later as it's first recording isn't until 8th June.

Not sure how any of them will do as they all seem the sort of thing that would do well as part of a strong schedule but put together I'm not so sure. Hopefully Penn and Teller at least will find an audience, as Wossy hosting should help.

Quote:
“Or maybe they'll just shove on a Harry Potter ”

I suspect we'll see plenty of those in June/early July in the run up to Deathly Hallows Part 2 being released in mid-July. I won't be surprised if they run the first 5 films (the number they've shown so far) weekly from mid-June.
James J
20-05-2011
Third grandmother since the Bistro's been open
Samthefootball
20-05-2011
sorry just a quick question are we going to get a fall ratings roundup today. I know rzt and DMN sometimes do it.
Dancc
20-05-2011
Originally Posted by ZoeMcCallister:
“On Ch5 looks like a big week for them with 3 season finales and the start of The Restaurant Inspector. I reckon it could be a flop though, especially considering Ramsay's dwindling popularity and how The Business Inspector performed.”

This stands a much better chance of taking off I think. The Business Inspector did not immediately follow a series of "big daddy" The Hotel Inspector for starters, plus I think food places work better for this kind of show than general businesses. I'm not sure they should be showing the two back-to-back though, which it looks like they might be doing on Monday 6th. I can't see where else it would go, unless the Press Office have got it wrong and it launches the following week when the other will have finished. But yeah scheduling it on that Monday at 10pm could backfire when they've been sub 1m in that slot a lot recently. Alternatively it might encourage some of those ~2m Hotel Inspector viewers to stick around and give it a try.
rzt
20-05-2011
Originally Posted by Samthefootball:
“sorry just a quick question are we going to get a fall ratings roundup today. I know rzt and DMN sometimes do it.”

Here's a roundup of yesterday's overnights:

Thursday 19th May Overnights
BBC One
13:45- Doctors: 1.32m (21%)
19:30- EastEnders: 8.06m (41%)
20:00- Watchdog: 4.49m (20.8%)
21:00- Inside The Human Body: 3.47m (15.4%)
22:35- Question Time: 2.92m (23.6%)
* peak: 3.23m (22.1%)

BBC Two
19:00- The Culture Show: 510k (2.7%)
20:00- Business Nightmares with Evan Davis: 870k (4%)
21:00- The Shadow Line: 1.72m (7.6%) inc HD
22:00- Psychoville: 740k (3.8%)

ITV1
19:00- Emmerdale: 6.22m (34.4%)
19:30- Tonight: 3.47m (17.5%)
20:00- Emmerdale: 6.8m (33.1%) , +1: 191k (0.9%)
20:30- Coronation Street: 7.8m (34.7%) , +1: 253k (1.1%)
21:00- Long Lost Family: 4.72m (20.9%) , +1: 247k (1.4%)

Channel 4
18:30- Hollyoaks: 960k (5.7%)
20:00- Three in a Bed: 1.3m (6%) , +1: 334k (1.5%)
21:00- Hunting Britain's Most Wanted: 1.65m (7.3%) , +1: 420k (2.4%)
22:00- Comedy Gala: Best Bits: 820k (4.8%) , +1: 126k (1.4%)

Channel 5
13:45- Neighbours: 659k (10.4%)
17:30- Neighbours: 1.1m (8.9%)
18:00- Home and Away: 1.1m (8.9%)
19:30- Zoo Days: 308k (1.5%)
20:00- Emergency Bikers: 808k (3.8%)
21:00- Extreme Fishing with Robson Green: 1.15m (5.1%)
22:00- Impossible: 399k (2.3%)

Primetime Shares
ITV1: 23.2% (+1: 0.7%)
BBC One: 22.2%
Channel 4: 5.4% (+1: 1.2%)
BBC Two: 4.4%
Channel 5: 3.3%.

Ratings include HD and are tape-checked where necessary

Multichannel
Alibi (inc +1)
21:00- Waking The Dead: 101k

BBC Three
21:00- Misbehaving Mums to Be: 417k (1.8%)
22:00- EastEnders: 917k (4.7%)
22:30- Russell Howard Live: Dingledodies: 651k (4.9%)

BBC Four
21:00- A303: Highway to the Sun: 671k (3%) inc HD
22:00- Rubicon: 192k (1%)

Dave
20:00- Qi XL: 382k (inc +1)
21:00- Al Murray’s Compete for the Meat: 230k (1%)

E4
19:00- Hollyoaks: 339k (1.9%)
21:00- The Big Bang Theory: 464k (inc +1)
21:30- How I Met Your Mother: 345k (inc +1)
22:00- The Inbetweeners: 237k (1.2%)
22:30- The Inbetweeners: 335k (2.2%)

Film4 (inc +1)
18:45- The Phantom of the Opera: 126k
21:00- The Waterboy: 354k

5*
18:30- Home and Away: 393k (2.3%)

GOLD (inc +1)
20:30- The Green Green Grass: 158k

ITV2
21:00- Peter Andre: The Next Chapter: 801k (3.5%) , +1: 178k (1%)
22:00- Celebrity Juice: 1.74m (9.4%) , +1: 236k (2.3%)
* all-time high

More4
19:45- Grand Designs: 317k (inc +1)
21:00- The Good Wife: 241k (1.1%) , +1: 22k
22:00- Brothers and Sisters: 220k (1.3%)

Sources: Attentional, Broadcast (1) (2), C4Sales, DS (1) (2)
Jonwo
20-05-2011
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“This stands a much better chance of taking off I think. The Business Inspector did not immediately follow a series of "big daddy" The Hotel Inspector for starters, plus I think food places work better for this kind of show than general businesses. I'm not sure they should be showing the two back-to-back though, which it looks like they might be doing on Monday 6th. I can't see where else it would go, unless the Press Office have got it wrong and it launches the following week when the other will have finished. But yeah scheduling it on that Monday at 10pm could backfire when they've been sub 1m in that slot a lot recently. Alternatively it might encourage some of those ~2m Hotel Inspector viewers to stick around and give it a try.”

Maybe it'll launch behind HI before moving to 9pm when it finishes, what episode is HI up to it on the programming guide. I think the new Paul Merton series will take over 9pm but I would think Channel 5 would want to save it for the Autumn.
Dancc
20-05-2011
Originally Posted by Jonwo:
“Maybe it'll launch behind HI before moving to 9pm when it finishes, what episode is HI up to it on the programming guide. I think the new Paul Merton series will take over 9pm but I would think Channel 5 would want to save it for the Autumn.”

Yeah, that's what I think they might do. Show the first episode at 10pm after the series finale of HI then bump it up to 9pm the following week. May work but it's kinda risky. The Hotel Inspector's eighth and final episode of this series will air on June 6th at 9pm, with 4 more episodes due to air later in the year:

Quote:
“The Hotel Inspector (Series 7: 8/8)
Alex Polizzi’s mission to rid the nation of horrible hotels and salvage the fortunes of struggling hostelries reaches the end of its seventh highly entertaining series. In this episode, the Hotel Inspector struggles to stay the course when confronted by a Suffolk inn which is in danger of ending up in the knacker’s yard.”

And currently the schedule for Monday 6th looks like this:

Quote:
“19.00 Cricket: England v Sri Lanka Test Series Day 4 (S)
Followed by Five News Update
20.00 The Gadget Show (S)
Followed by Five News at 9
21.00 The Hotel Inspector (S) (Also simulcast on 5 HD)
22.00 TBA
23.00 TBA”

derek500
20-05-2011
Originally Posted by rzt:
“22:00- Psychoville: 740k (3.8%)”

Poor figures for the only programme I currently watch on any BBC channel!!

Doesn't make the officials in the BBC2 top 30, but at least it's top five on BBC HD, where I watch it.

So sad for a brilliant programme to be beaten by a repeat of EE.
mattpinder
20-05-2011
These live + timeshift until 2am figures had me thinking earlier. The overnights aren't really telling us that much now are they?
I mean, how many times have we recently said "They both held up pretty well" "It was hardly dented considering".
More and more shows, that could potentially dent each other, are now being watched on the
same evening and therefore being reported in the overnight.

Maybe we should have 'live' figures released at 10am, followed by same day timeshift figures at 2pm.
Imagine the excitement and anticipation in this thread during that 4 hour wait!
Jonwo
20-05-2011
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Yeah, that's what I think they might do. Show the first episode at 10pm after the series finale of HI then bump it up to 9pm the following week. May work but it's kinda risky.”

Is there any 8pm slots that are TBA? I think it could easily schedule into one of the 8pm slots.
Dancc
20-05-2011
Originally Posted by derek500:
“Poor figures for the only programme I currently watch on any BBC channel!!

Doesn't make the officials in the BBC2 top 30, but at least it's top five on BBC HD, where I watch it.

So sad for a brilliant programme to be beaten by a repeat of EE.”

The scary part is if you add up the figures for BBC Two, Channel 4 and Channel 5 at 10pm last night, the total is not much above ITV2 on its own- about 200k in it. Pretty extraordinary stuff there for a digital channel to come so close to topping 3 main channels combined.

BBC Two's going through a bit of a rough patch of late. The critics might be liking a lot of its output but the ratings are kind of falling off a cliff in some cases, with The Shadow Line in particular losing viewers at an alarming rate for a drama series of its calibre. About the only real reliable ratings banker for them on weeknights prime at the moment is You're Fired, a spinoff of a BBC One show.
Dancc
20-05-2011
Originally Posted by Jonwo:
“Is there any 8pm slots that are TBA? I think it could easily schedule into one of the 8pm slots.”

Nope. That is literally the only slot it could go in that week, so it's possible a mistake has been made and the launch will follow a week later. In which case, Monday at 9pm or Thursday at 8pm are two options, with Friday at 9pm an outside possibility- but I think it's more likely The Mentalist will enter reruns in that slot, as they were pulling in a solid 1m+ last summer.
derek500
20-05-2011
Originally Posted by mattpinder:
“These live + timeshift until 2am figures had me thinking earlier. The overnights aren't really telling us that much now are they?
I mean, how many times have we recently said "They both held up pretty well" "It was hardly dented considering".
More and more shows, that could potentially dent each other, are now being watched on the
same evening and therefore being reported in the overnight.”

So true. In our house my wife was watching SCD and when that finished, I went in the lounge to watch a timeshifted Harry Hill. When that finished, I left the room and my wife carried on with a timeshifted X-Factor. I came back in the lounge, watched something off the Sky+ planner and then my wife watched the timeshifted X-Factor Results.

Doesn't everyone do that!!??
Jonwo
20-05-2011
Originally Posted by Dancc:
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BBC Two's going through a bit of a rough patch of late. The critics might be liking a lot of its output but the ratings are kind of falling off a cliff in some cases, with The Shadow Line in particular losing viewers at an alarming rate for a drama series of its calibre. About the only real reliable ratings banker for them on weeknights prime at the moment is You're Fired, a spinoff of a BBC One show.”

The Shadow Line's lucky it launched with around 3m but it's lost a huge chunk of its audience but I imagine it'll be used as award bait along with The Hour.
Charnham
20-05-2011
Nice share for EastEnders on BBC 1.
Dancc
20-05-2011
Originally Posted by derek500:
“So true. In our house my wife was watching SCD and when that finished, I went in the lounge to watch a timeshifted Harry Hill. When that finished, I left the room and my wife carried on with a timeshifted X-Factor. I came back in the lounge, watched something off the Sky+ planner and then my wife watched the timeshifted X-Factor Results.

Doesn't everyone do that!!??”

Timeshifting shows like The X Factor is not something that happens in this household, except for extreme cases. I don't watch that particular show any more but I think the immediacy of it and getting the result first made it appointment-to-view, it's more exciting that way! Generally the stuff that we PVR most is scripted stuff or factual programmes, with virtually all "live" shows being watched live as it goes out. It's interesting to see just how many do that though.
derek500
20-05-2011
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Timeshifting shows like The X Factor is not something that happens in this household, except for extreme cases. I don't watch that particular show any more but I think the immediacy of it and getting the result first made it appointment-to-view, it's more exciting that way! Generally the stuff that we PVR most is scripted stuff or factual programmes, with virtually all "live" shows being watched live as it goes out. It's interesting to see just how many do that though.”

I get the red 'newsflashes' on DS, try not to spoil it for the wife!!

I was amazed that SDC had 2m+ sameday timeshift. It's not as though there's loads of ad breaks to spin through.
Score
20-05-2011
Originally Posted by derek500:
“I get the red 'newsflashes' on DS, try not to spoil it for the wife!!

I was amazed that SDC had 2m+ sameday timeshift. It's not as though there's loads of ad breaks to spin through.”

It was the night it shifted almost an hour earlier to avoid The X Factor Final - looks like it caught a lot out, and was just too early for some.
square_eyes
20-05-2011
Social media may well be the saviour of live TV. You only have to look at twitter and see the number of top trends about tv shows and all the broadcasters embracing it. Surfing whilst watching is the in thing, and that only really works with live TV.
RobbieSykes123
20-05-2011
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“Makes you wonder what TV will be like in 40 years time. The Celebrity Juice viewers of today are hardly the Antiques Roadshow viewers of tomorrow.”

The way Britain is "reverse-evolving", helped along by ITV2's typical nightly output, I shudder to think.

I bet most Britons won't be able to string more than 4 words together in 40 years time.



Originally Posted by square_eyes:
“Provisional schedules are in

Sat 4th June

ITV1

21:30 Britain's Got Talent Final Results”

And so begins "Operation Please God Let's Make Sure We Finish Above Strictly In This Year's Top Rated Shows"....

No other reason for the split other than to maximise the audience.

Pleased BBC1 seems to be going with DW getting the jump on BGT part 1, but the rest of the evening gives BGT a clear run - especially SYTYCD Results against the BGT climax.

Dear Christ, BSI, you can surely make some effort at competing and not just gifting BGT default viewers on a plate!

Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“If the football is a 4.45pm kick-off they should go BGT at 6.45pm.”



If ITV is going to make a serious effort to become a respected football broadcaster (and maybe they just think about the ad revenues), they need to do more than 1 minute of post-match analysis. Assuming the match will finish at 6.40 and you would have BGT start at 6.45 after an ad break, then how much wrap up do you have in mind there?

Given how many people drift off a match as it ticks round to the 85th minute, perhaps they should start airing BGT before the match finishes, to avoid the football audience having chance to tail off.

And if they miss a crucial winning goal in the 89th minute, well so be it. It's not as if it hasn't happened before...
Fudd
20-05-2011
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“And so begins "Operation Please God Let's Make Sure We Finish Above Strictly In This Year's Top Rated Shows"....

No other reason for the split other than to maximise the audience.

Pleased BBC1 seems to be going with DW getting the jump on BGT part 1, but the rest of the evening gives BGT a clear run - especially SYTYCD Results against the BGT climax.

Dear Christ, BSI, you can surely make some effort at competing and not just gifting BGT default viewers on a plate!



”

So ITV shouldn't schedule well but the BBC should?

I wouldn't complain too much. ITV have gifted BBC1 every Tuesday night since the football moved nights.
newkid30
20-05-2011
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“The scary part is if you add up the figures for BBC Two, Channel 4 and Channel 5 at 10pm last night, the total is not much above ITV2 on its own- about 200k in it. Pretty extraordinary stuff there for a digital channel to come so close to topping 3 main channels combined.

BBC Two's going through a bit of a rough patch of late. The critics might be liking a lot of its output but the ratings are kind of falling off a cliff in some cases, with The Shadow Line in particular losing viewers at an alarming rate for a drama series of its calibre. About the only real reliable ratings banker for them on weeknights prime at the moment is You're Fired, a spinoff of a BBC One show.”

how can you say bbc2 is doing badly and constantly say that five is doing well?? bbc2 is far more consistently successful. Five regularly has sub 1m for 2 shows an evening in the evenings practically every evening, i'm genuinely not having a go this just seems like a ridiculous comment.
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