Originally Posted by Charnham:
“the BBC seem to be having a good night at the BAFTAs.”
“the BBC seem to be having a good night at the BAFTAs.”
Quelle surprise! Cue lots of back-slapping etc.
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ill say one thing about the BAFTAs, I dont think much of the "YouTube Audience" award, The Only Way is ssex over the likes of Downton Abbey & Sherlock, some people should be locked up.
The audience award at the BAFTA's did produce some rather stunned looks! Somehow an audience award doesnt really fit with this though.
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“ill say one thing about the BAFTAs, I dont think much of the "YouTube audiece" award, The Only Way is ssex over the likes of Downton Abbey & Sherlock, some people should be locked up.”
“ill say one thing about the BAFTAs, I dont think much of the "YouTube audiece" award, The Only Way is ssex over the likes of Downton Abbey & Sherlock, some people should be locked up.”
I suppose it balances out many of the other awards which are often for obscure highbrow programmes that people would like to say they watch, but most don't.
Compared with Essex where people don't admit they watch it, but many do.
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Brilliant for Apprentice, I think that must be on a par with 2010's official high already (albeit that was dragged down by the Beeb asking for BARB to report it as one two hour show).”
“Brilliant for Apprentice, I think that must be on a par with 2010's official high already (albeit that was dragged down by the Beeb asking for BARB to report it as one two hour show).”
The highest BARB rating last year was for the 15th December episode which got 8.77m so its already beaten last year's high.
Originally Posted by lewiep93:
“Does both the Apprentice and Eurovision shows include HD?”
“Does both the Apprentice and Eurovision shows include HD?”
Im 99% sure they do.
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“Why was SYTYCD even bought back, the first series wasnt exactly a hit”
“Why was SYTYCD even bought back, the first series wasnt exactly a hit”
It did OK last year, starting with 7m, dipping mid series but finsihing with 6m.
Originally Posted by square_eyes:
“Although we now have BAFTA Award winning 'The Cube', 'The Only Way Is Essex' & 'ITV News'”
“Although we now have BAFTA Award winning 'The Cube', 'The Only Way Is Essex' & 'ITV News'
”
if we have to give BAFTAs to ITV, could we not at least give them to Dowtown Abbey, it was nominated 3 times after all, alot more deserving than The Only Way is Essex.
Its honestly enough to make you wonder if YouTube is worthwhile.
Incidentally, why is this (rather sterile) awards show screened on delay ?
The winners have been all over the internet long before broadcast.
The winners have been all over the internet long before broadcast.
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“ill say one thing about the BAFTAs, I dont think much of the "YouTube Audience" award, The Only Way is ssex over the likes of Downton Abbey & Sherlock, some people should be locked up.”
“ill say one thing about the BAFTAs, I dont think much of the "YouTube Audience" award, The Only Way is ssex over the likes of Downton Abbey & Sherlock, some people should be locked up.”
I could see it coming to be honest. Sign of the times. Does it mean an awful lot? No!
Originally Posted by square_eyes:
“Incidentally, why is this (rather sterile) awards show screened on delay ?
The winners have been all over the internet long before broadcast.”
“Incidentally, why is this (rather sterile) awards show screened on delay ?
The winners have been all over the internet long before broadcast.”
Yes, a problem that ITV1's British Soap Awards did not suffer from, of course.
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Yes, a problem that ITV1's British Soap Awards did not suffer from, of course.”
“Yes, a problem that ITV1's British Soap Awards did not suffer from, of course.
”
Yes, I realise that. But this event is held on the evening of it's broadcast. So why not live ?
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“if we have to give BAFTAs to ITV, could we not at least give them to Dowtown Abbey, it was nominated 3 times after all, alot more deserving than The Only Way is Essex.
Its honestly enough to make you wonder if YouTube is worthwhile.”
“if we have to give BAFTAs to ITV, could we not at least give them to Dowtown Abbey, it was nominated 3 times after all, alot more deserving than The Only Way is Essex.
Its honestly enough to make you wonder if YouTube is worthwhile.”
Or the people that choose the BAFTAs are fanatical BBC supporters who think that ITV can't make quality television. However, I think The Only Way Is Essex getting nominated is some kind of in joke as if there was a Golden Raspberries version of the BAFTAs this would be nominated along with Hole in the Wall, a really classy programme that has all the right BBC values.
Obviously ITV shows some almighty trash like This Morning and the Next Chapter, but it is balanced out by The Lakes, Downton Abbey, Whitechapel and Strangeways.
the BAFTA Fellowship for Sir Trevor McDonald, that is a worthy win for ITV.
thats not the case, I am not involved in decding who wins the awards.
Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“Or the people that choose the BAFTAs are fanatical BBC supporters who think that ITV can't make quality television.”
“Or the people that choose the BAFTAs are fanatical BBC supporters who think that ITV can't make quality television.”
thats not the case, I am not involved in decding who wins the awards.
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“ill say one thing about the BAFTAs, I dont think much of the "YouTube Audience" award, The Only Way is ssex over the likes of Downton Abbey & Sherlock, some people should be locked up.”
“ill say one thing about the BAFTAs, I dont think much of the "YouTube Audience" award, The Only Way is ssex over the likes of Downton Abbey & Sherlock, some people should be locked up.”
Originally Posted by Chris1964:
“The audience award at the BAFTA's did produce some rather stunned looks! Somehow an audience award doesnt really fit with this though.”
“The audience award at the BAFTA's did produce some rather stunned looks! Somehow an audience award doesnt really fit with this though.”
Martin Freeman's face was a picture, wasn't it!
By giving a BAFTA, albeit a BAFTA-lite, to one of the biggest piles of excrement ever seen on British television, I fear the Academy has tarnished its reputation forever.
Serves them right. Please make this the last "YouTube Audience Award". Not in keeping with the ethos of the BAFTA TV Awards, which are to celebrate the best of British television not just the biggest mass appeal. That X Factor got a nomination is further evidence of dumbing down.
Originally Posted by square_eyes:
“Although we now have BAFTA Award winning 'The Cube'...”
“Although we now have BAFTA Award winning 'The Cube'...”
As Best Entertainment Show.
Yeah right - the nation finds it so "entertaining" it gets trounced every week by a rural affairs magazine programme!
Originally Posted by Georged123:
“The highest BARB rating last year was for the 15th December episode which got 8.77m so its already beaten last year's high.”
“The highest BARB rating last year was for the 15th December episode which got 8.77m so its already beaten last year's high.”
Indeed. The Final did of course get a rating well over 9m, but because it was reported together with You're Hired over 2 hours, that never got reported "on the record".
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Serves them right. Please make this the last "YouTube Audience Award". Not in keeping with the ethos of the BAFTA TV Awards, which are to celebrate the best of British television not just the biggest mass appeal. That X Factor got a nomination is further evidence of dumbing down.
Yeah right - the nation finds it so "entertaining" it gets trounced every week by a rural affairs magazine programme!”
“Serves them right. Please make this the last "YouTube Audience Award". Not in keeping with the ethos of the BAFTA TV Awards, which are to celebrate the best of British television not just the biggest mass appeal. That X Factor got a nomination is further evidence of dumbing down.
Yeah right - the nation finds it so "entertaining" it gets trounced every week by a rural affairs magazine programme!
”
You aren't even being consistant within one post
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“the BAFTA Fellowship for Sir Trevor McDonald, that is a worthy win for ITV.
thats not the case, I am not involved in decding who wins the awards.”
“the BAFTA Fellowship for Sir Trevor McDonald, that is a worthy win for ITV.
thats not the case, I am not involved in decding who wins the awards.
”
Ho, ho, but you know what I mean. Even in the eighties when a lot of ITV programmes were very good, it was always the BBC or Channel 4 that took most of the awards. I can remember The Sun referring to it as a snobbish awards ceremony that gave awards to programmes most people didn't watch. However, you do have the NTAs and the British Soap Awards to compensate nowadays and ITV always ran the TV Times awards- Benny Hill always seemed to win the best comedian award.
All licence fee payers should be happy! The Beeb have had a fabulous night -16 awards if my counting is up to it.
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Martin Freeman's face was a picture, wasn't it!
By giving a BAFTA, albeit a BAFTA-lite, to one of the biggest piles of excrement ever seen on British television,”
“Martin Freeman's face was a picture, wasn't it!
By giving a BAFTA, albeit a BAFTA-lite, to one of the biggest piles of excrement ever seen on British television,”
Have you not seen Don't Scare the Hare? And that was on prime time BBC1 not tucked away on digital TV.
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“As Best Entertainment Show.
Yeah right - the nation finds it so "entertaining" it gets trounced every week by a rural affairs magazine programme!”
“As Best Entertainment Show.
Yeah right - the nation finds it so "entertaining" it gets trounced every week by a rural affairs magazine programme!
”
I don't think the BAFTA's and ratings correlate somehow.
Are the NTA's more to your liking ?
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“You aren't even being consistant within one post”
“You aren't even being consistant within one post
”
That occurred to me too when I saw it posted.
I left it up to see who would pick it up first. There were three people in particular I thought might pick up on it. I wasn't wrong...
I think there should be a Golden Raspberries version on BBC Three just to show the broadcasters up. Top of the nominations would have to be Don't Scare The Hare, it is a complete flop and is totally terrible. Not forgetting such drivel as Kerry Katona The Next Chapter, Vanessa, This Morning, Daybreak and Live From Studio Five.
The BAFTAs don't really tally up with the ethos in this thread.
People complain that the NTAs are too tacky but the BAFTAs go to far the opposite way. It has the feel of an internal awards ceremony with no atmosphere what so ever.
It's one of those shows where I can count the number of shows I actually watched on half of one hand, and many shows, I hadn't even heard of. Many have never been mentioned in this thread, besides in the round up of the previous day's BBC4 ratings that no one never comments on!
People complain that the NTAs are too tacky but the BAFTAs go to far the opposite way. It has the feel of an internal awards ceremony with no atmosphere what so ever.
It's one of those shows where I can count the number of shows I actually watched on half of one hand, and many shows, I hadn't even heard of. Many have never been mentioned in this thread, besides in the round up of the previous day's BBC4 ratings that no one never comments on!
Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“I think there should be a Golden Raspberries version on BBC Three just to show the broadcasters up. Top of the nominations would have to be Don't Scare The Hare, it is a complete flop and is totally terrible. Not forgetting such drivel as Kerry Katona The Next Chapter, Vanessa, This Morning, Daybreak and Live From Studio Five.”
“I think there should be a Golden Raspberries version on BBC Three just to show the broadcasters up. Top of the nominations would have to be Don't Scare The Hare, it is a complete flop and is totally terrible. Not forgetting such drivel as Kerry Katona The Next Chapter, Vanessa, This Morning, Daybreak and Live From Studio Five.”
I would imagine ITV2, or E4 or Channel Five will air some 4 hour "The Worst 100 TV Moments of 2011" type show in December.
Which will be ironic, being on one of those 3 channels...
Originally Posted by Chris1964:
“I guess, given that they both started as kids on a kids show Ant and Dec have done pretty well for themselves. However after the early Takeaways they just seem to have been consumed by the Cowell shows rather than becoming true stars in their own right.
I still think they have not yet found their best format, and I rather doubt they ever will if they remain attached to Mr Cowells coattails.”
“I guess, given that they both started as kids on a kids show Ant and Dec have done pretty well for themselves. However after the early Takeaways they just seem to have been consumed by the Cowell shows rather than becoming true stars in their own right.
I still think they have not yet found their best format, and I rather doubt they ever will if they remain attached to Mr Cowells coattails.”
I think I'm A Celebrity is probably where they are at their best just now. They get a bit more freedom and it's basically their show - nobody thinks of it as anyone else's in the way that they do with BGT.
Plus, I don't see Cowell ever appearing in a major role on any UK TV show in the future. So even if they're on a show made by his company, it'll be more associated with them.
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“As poor as Push the Button has been I don't think going back to Takeaway is in Ant and Dec's interests. The series had already begun to go stale before they called time on it.”
“As poor as Push the Button has been I don't think going back to Takeaway is in Ant and Dec's interests. The series had already begun to go stale before they called time on it.”
I agree, but I think that was partly because the features just weren't as good as they had been. I remember tuning into the first episode of series 9 and this endless procession of Z Listers on more than one feature as well.
Some time away, bring back the best features, maybe add a new one or two... it might work. Certainly better than Push The Button. Obviously if they've got another great format lined up then go with that.
Perhaps if Red or Black is a big hit in September it'll start airing weekly in 2012? Although I'm not too sure about that format, tbh. Gameshows have been hard work recently.
Quote:
“Personally I think they'd be better off spinning the Ant vs Dec segment into a show of it's own, something they can pre-record in summer/autumn and do on a much bigger scale by not doing it live.”
“Personally I think they'd be better off spinning the Ant vs Dec segment into a show of it's own, something they can pre-record in summer/autumn and do on a much bigger scale by not doing it live.”
I liked it as a feature - at least in the beginning. But I'm not sure if they could spin it out to a full 60 minutes.
Quote:
“And I think ITV would be better off giving Duel a second chance rather than Poker Face. Indeed it should have got a second chance first time around, but whether on Saturdays or tweaked for daytime it's a decent enough format and those who watched it rated it very highly, so expose it enough this time around and it might have a shot.”
“And I think ITV would be better off giving Duel a second chance rather than Poker Face. Indeed it should have got a second chance first time around, but whether on Saturdays or tweaked for daytime it's a decent enough format and those who watched it rated it very highly, so expose it enough this time around and it might have a shot.”
I liked Duel as well - maybe not Nick Hancock. IIRC it added viewers as it progressed. Reducing the prize total and airing it in daytime could work.
I should point out that having advocated the return of Takeaway, Pokerface and Duel - I do not work for Gallowgate TV!
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“I would imagine ITV2, or E4 or Channel Five will air some 4 hour "The Worst 100 TV Moments of 2011" type show in December.
Which will be ironic, being on one of those 3 channels...”
“I would imagine ITV2, or E4 or Channel Five will air some 4 hour "The Worst 100 TV Moments of 2011" type show in December.
Which will be ironic, being on one of those 3 channels...
”
Or more likely, BBC Three. They forever seem to be doing such shows now. Noticed the other night they had something like "Worst Movie mistakes", which on the face of it seemed like an acceptable filler programme for an hour. Then I realised they've actually made it into a 13-part series!
Originally Posted by C14E:
“re: Ant vs Dec
I liked it as a feature - at least in the beginning. But I'm not sure if they could spin it out to a full 60 minutes. ”
“re: Ant vs Dec
I liked it as a feature - at least in the beginning. But I'm not sure if they could spin it out to a full 60 minutes. ”
That's the problem with TV nowadays. As a 30-minute format it would work really well - the first half being the prep, the second being the challenge. However nowadays most shows are an hour-long whether they need to be or not, which when not warranted pretty much kills off a show before it gets off the ground.
Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“Ho, ho, but you know what I mean. Even in the eighties when a lot of ITV programmes were very good, it was always the BBC or Channel 4 that took most of the awards. I can remember The Sun referring to it as a snobbish awards ceremony that gave awards to programmes most people didn't watch. However, you do have the NTAs and the British Soap Awards to compensate nowadays and ITV always ran the TV Times awards- Benny Hill always seemed to win the best comedian award.”
“Ho, ho, but you know what I mean. Even in the eighties when a lot of ITV programmes were very good, it was always the BBC or Channel 4 that took most of the awards. I can remember The Sun referring to it as a snobbish awards ceremony that gave awards to programmes most people didn't watch. However, you do have the NTAs and the British Soap Awards to compensate nowadays and ITV always ran the TV Times awards- Benny Hill always seemed to win the best comedian award.”
I dont think there is anything wrong with giving awards to good shows, that X-Factor types are not watching, I dont see any good reason not to have an award cermony that celebrates quality over ratings.
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