At the end of the day repeats and DVDs of quality drama, comedy and factual shows are what people will watch in years to come. No one seriously would want to watch a re run of TXF in ten years time as it's not that type of show, but I can imagine ITV3 being kept occupied with Downton Abbey re runs for years to come. A lot of reality and mass appeal entertainment shows are instant television in the same way the BBC never re ran its biggest entertainment show in the seventies, The Generation Game, as they knew there would be no interest.

generally I agree, but im not sure what point your trying to prove.

Hello, Charnham, what I am trying to say is a highly regarded drama with only 4 million viewers is better remembered and regarded than something like Dancing On Ice, with double the audience and a bigger mass following, which if it finished would be barely remembered in ten years time as the audience for these shows is fickle and moves on to whatever else takes its place. A one off drama like Hattie will always have a long repeat potential and be remembered far more than a peak time LE show on ITV1 in years to come. Also could you imagine the outrage from the fans if Doctor Who was cancelled, but a show like Dancing On Ice being cancelled wouldn't mean much as it would probably be replaced by something called Dancing On Snow.

yeah I understand that, but what has that to do with the BAFTAs, other than the the fact its more likely to reaward those shows.

I was only saying a few posts ago, there should be award cermonys for both types of shows.

..and the second episode (Wednesday) had a final rating of 8.30m (30.9%)

Up 1.2m from an overnight of 7.1m

* MasterChef overtakes Dancing with the Stars in Total People after two consecutive weeks of defeats;
* And The Kennedys beats Hawaii Five-O for its premiere, but loses out to both Castle and The Mentalist.

ABC1
19:00 ABC News 0.74m
19:30 The Great Rift: Africa's Wild Heart 0.74m
20:20 Inside the Great Rift 0.62m
20:35 New Series: The Kennedys 0.80m

Seven
18:00 Seven News 1.58m
18:30 Dancing with the Stars 1.45m
*down over 150k week-on-week.
21:00 Castle 0.93m

Nine
18:00 Nine News Sunday 1.47m
18:30 In Their Footsteps 0.96m
19:30 60 Minutes 1.11m
20:40 The Mentalist 0.91m

Ten
18:00 Ten Evening News 0.41m
18:30 Merlin 0.87m
19:30 MasterChef Australia 1.47m
*31% commercial share;
*top rated show of the night in all key demographics: 16-39, 18-49 and 25-54.
20:30 Hawaii Five-O 0.75m

One
21:00 Formula One: Spanish Grand Prix 0.27m
*peak audience: 450,000

Shares
Seven - 25.7%
Nine - 18.7%
Ten - 16.9%
ABC1 - 11.6%
One - 4.5%

Source: Media Spy.

This could be a significant turn of events if confirmed. Nine are desperate for a big hit and this very genre is where their two nearest rivals are scoring their biggest hits at the moment.

TEN also could also have done with a hit, ok it has MasterChef and the Biggest Loser, but its not exactly 7.

Was DWTS really 2 and a half hours long?

Yes. But it was 2 and a half hours long last week as well.

For the hour that MasterChef was on, Dancing with the Stars averaged 1.36m.

Interview with Peter Fincham in The Independent.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/pe...r-2287810.html

DWTS followed by Castle, does 7 think its ABC?

He never SAYS anything we don't already know.

LOL. I hadn't even realised, good spot. Those lazy copycat schedulers at Seven, tsk.

Nine desperately needs a hit so The Voice is a good pickup although it would be funny if The Voice Australia turns out to be a hit given that X Factor failed to become a big hit.

I still think BBC One will be the home of The Voice UK.

to be fair UK channels can be just as bad.

Channel 5 obviously think its CBS, but tends not to scheulde in the same way 7 has.

Meanwhile ive enjoyed the Big Bang Theory & How I Met Your Mother CBS double on E4, but again that isnt how the shows are scheulded on CBS.

Moving to, and so no one can accuse me of bias, BBC 3 Family Guy followed by Amercian Dad, on a Sunday night, that is straight out of the News Corp play book.

Still the 7 example is very balant.

Come to think of it hasnt E4 scheulded the Cleveland Show and Bobs Burgers together previously? even if it was on a Tuesday

I think you'll probably be right. Especially after what's happened to SYTYCD.

I'm curious to see if any other broadcaster makes a play for it though, but as of now only the BBC have signalled their interest.

If Channel 5 scheduled like CBS, you'd have Mentalist after CSI,

I imagine Sky and possibly Channel 5 will have looked at it, BBC One needs a hit format and The Voice ATM fits that need although the earliest it could air would be late February/early March or even around the same as Doctor Who which be late March/early April whereas on Channel 5 or Sky it would air in January/February.

you would not hear me complaining about that.

Also its highly possible that at somestage in the past, Five has had a CSI repeat after The Mentalist.

Also going back in time, C4 used to treat Friday night like NBCs "Must See Thursdays" with shows like Friends, Will & Grace and Scrubs all airing together.

I'm surprised ITV haven't been a bit more vocal about being 'interested' in it...if only to turn the screw on Simon Cowell a bit.

Exactly. As for the results - very unfair of those slagging off The Cube. It is the best show in it's genre for quite some time and a far more deserving winner than the likes of Strictly and X Factor IMO for actually bringing something innovative to TV in the last year.

Essex on the other hand - why on earth BAFTA let it be nominated in the first place is beyond me, but it's no surprise it won as it's a show which shamelessly plugged itself to get people to vote for it, something higher quality shows won't do.


And in other news, David Abrahahm has confirmed Ten o'clock Live will be back "in some form" this year as the Guardian gloss over C4's obvious issues at the moment:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...hief-executive

5.4m (22%) for the BAFTAS. Up 1.2m from last year.

The Cube: 3.8m (17.7%)
Vera: 5.0m (20.5%)

Both EXCLUDING HD and +1.

Louis Theroux: 3.0m (11.9%)

Source: Attentional

Sky does Got to Dance in Jan/Feb. They wouldn't do two at the same time.

Their fingers got burnt with the same slot in the summer with Must be the Music, as did C5 with Don't Stop Believing.

Early Sunday evenings in late autumn might be a better time, when it's cooler and darker!!

Badly researched article.


E4 HD was pay on sat/cable a long time before ITV2/3/4HD became pay.

So ITV followed C4.

That David Abraham article is like a promotional piece for CH4.

CH4 is awful, the worst exploiter of the human condition in the UK at the moment.

It's weird how a failure can be called a succes as long as some arbitrary targets are met