I can't tell how disappointed I was when I opened my Radio Times this morning to see the first part of the two part series finale of The Mentalist going up against the climax of a big Corrie storyline and the last semi-final of BGT. Who's smart idea was that? For me personally I would have liked to see the two parts back to back and if it meant missing a week then so be it. Would have made sense ratings wise too.

At least the Americans aren't subjected to his incessant and needless cursing. I'm sure that's one of the reasons he lost popularity in the UK. It was the reason in our household.

It won't do EastEnders any good next Monday and Friday, especially Monday: low-rated lead-in and lead-out, and up against Springwatch and Talent - the latter with a head-start.

I may have asked this in the past, and ive forgetten but why is BGT stripped across the week, when to the best of my knowlege X-Factor isnt.

Its got the Eastenders lead-in, cant get a much better slot on BBC3.

I was hoping for Sunday at 9pm, guess that is just me.

With Luther getting a second chance, let's hope there are actually some decent stories this time, not just tenuous linking of random acts of violence.

Saturday 4th June
Doctor Who: A Good Man Goes to War, 6:40pm, BBC One
BGT Final 7pm-9pm & 9:30pm-10pm, ITV1
Popstar to Operastar: The Curtain Raiser, 9pm, ITV1

Sunday 5th June
French Open: Men's Final, 2pm-6:10pm, BBC Two
Popstar to Operastar 8pm-9pm & 10pm-10:30pm, ITV1
Case Histories, 9pm, BBC One
Movie Premiere: Role Models, 9pm, Channel 4
Movie Premiere: Rambo, 10pm, Channel 5

Monday 6th June
Case Histories, 9pm, BBC One
Injustice, 9pm, ITV1
Embarrassing Fat Bodies, 9pm, Channel 4

Tuesday 7th June
Animal Kingdom, 7:30pm, ITV1
Junior Doctors: Your Life in Their Hands, 9pm, BBC One
Injustice, 9pm, ITV1
The Fairy Jobmother, 9pm, Channel 4
CSI: Crime Scene Investigation (Season Finale), 9pm, Channel 5

Wednesday 8th June
You've Been Framed and Famous, 8pm, ITV1
In with the Flyns, 8:30pm, BBC One
Injustice, 9pm, ITV1

Thursday 9th June
Help! My House is Falling Down, 8pm, Channel 4
The Duke at 90, 9pm, BBC One
Injustice, 9pm, ITV1
Born To Be Different, 9pm, Channel 4

Friday 10th June
Love Your Garden, 8pm, ITV1
Injustice, 9pm, ITV1
Comedy Gala, 9pm, Channel 4
The Mentalist (Season Finale), 9pm, Channel 5

I'm surprised the BBC are repeating Junior Doctors on BBC One at 9pm. Maybe post-news, we've seen that kind of thing before, but a 9pm rerun of a BBC Three factual show is very unusual.

Elsewhere, In with the Flyns could do really well with only filler like You've Been Framed to contend with on ITV1; my concerns about the late scheduling of the PtO results show still stand; and I can't believe Channel 4 are bringing back Embarrassing Bodies in some form already.

I agree with the principle of what you're saying, but to be fair, The Mentalist is showing in its normal timeslot. Coronation Street is not.

I did suggest on this very forum that they counter the likely onslaught by airing a rerun that week and then showing the 2 part finale back-to-back the following week. But predictably they did not listen.

It means the big 3m rating which was possible before is now off. Well done C5! But it will still be one of the best shows of the week and the AI score will be through the roof. All I'm hearing is great things about this finale. One NOT to be missed.

Thanks to MattJ for alerting towards either:

a) a DigiGuide error
b) a BBC1 daytime schedule change from 6th June

http://uk-tv-guide.com/programme-det...ine+Programme/


Spot the end time. It is like that for the entire week. Interesting move, providing it is not an error.

I totally agree, I'm just disappointed because it's one of the best things on telly imo and deserves to be seen by as many people as possible. It should timeshift well though.

I would hope that's an error. 10am seems incredibly late for a breakfast show to finish on a weekday when the normal working day begins at 9am!

One thing I did notice in daytime was ITV1 throwing in the towel at 5pm despite a good run there of late- old favourite Midsomer Murders repeats run 4pm-6pm, so useless for the crowd arriving home at 5pm.


Yeah, completely agree with that. It's my favourite US show.

Primeval premieres on the Watch channel at 8pm, with ITV1 to show the series later this year.

We should get the ratings tomorrow, on www.channel4sales.com/data/overnights.

Any predictions, Joe?

Just touching on what Dancc was talking about yesterday, if Big Brother does air at 10pm on Channel 5, what will happen to the CSI and Law & Order repeats which usually get a solid 1m? Could they possibly be switched to 8pm (can't do any worse than something like Supersize Grime, surely?), moved to 11pm (CSI NY repeats have been doing well recently) or just be dropped from the main C5 schedule altogether?

BBC One's schedule changed slightly from the provisional then, everything starting 5 minutes earlier, and Don't Scare the Hare removed from the schedule totally (presumably axed before the end of it's run) and replaced with Total Wipeout.

So, for BGT Final night it's :

BBC One

16:30 Total Wipeout
17:30 BBC News
17:40 So You Think You Can Dance
18:40 Doctor Who
19:30 National Lottery : Who Dares Wins
20:20 Casualty
21:10 So You Think You Can Dance Results
21:35 Live At the Apollo
22:20 BBC News

ITV1

16:15 Euro 2012 Qualifier : England v Switzerland
19:00 Britains Got Talent Final
21:00 Popstar to Operastar : The Curtain Raiser
21:30 Britains Got Talent Final Result
22:00 ITV News

Whilst nobody really likes the Pop to Op scheduling, it should do well in that slot, given that it's mostly up against SYTYCD. Don't think the BGT audience will suddenly be taking an interest in that one some how.

Channel 4 surrendering for the night with a Lord of the Rings film.

Considering that only 1% of the population* own a 3D tv, I'd imagine it wouldn't have been many.

*source KANTAR Media

Springwatch is always stripped, it's Autumnwatch that was the weekly show, presumably as nature in autumn moves a bit slower than nature in the spring. And it's always started on the Spring Bank Holiday, so yes, since BGT has been there, it's gone up against it.


It was not an ITV programme, is the main point. ITV cannot show it.

But it depends on the show as to how much creative freedom they get. I know that Celador piloted The People Versus with their own money before they started hawking it around the channels so it was made very much on their own terms and it was all done and dusted before ITV came in for it (though as it turns out, that was rotten). Whereas in other cases, the broadcaster might come to a production company with an idea, I think one example would be the Alternative Election Night which became Ten O'Clock Live, when C4 wanted to do something for election night and commissioned Zeppotron to do it because they had experience with that kind of topical comedy.

As for this, it was clearly a pet project for Daran Little, the Corrie writer and expert, who presumably approached ITV Studios with the idea and they presumably approached the Beeb because they thought it would work there. It's the same as how Jimmy McGovern does his shows out of ITV Studios even though they're all on the Beeb, he knows and respects the people there so he wants to work with them.

ITV Studios works like every other production company, it just happens to be owned by ITV. I do not understand the confusion here.

Even if the Beeb wanted to do a Corrie drama and ITV Studios didn't make it, they could still have done it, they could have just approached permission to use the various aspects of Corrie. Same as that episode of The Royle Family where they all watch Millionaire, they just asked Celador for permission to use Millionaire properties.


Oh, ignore Martin Kelner, his column may have had some appeal a decade ago but I've completely forgotten what that might have been. It now appears to be the world's longest running and most untelligble blog which somehow find itself published as a national newspaper's sport on TV column. You'd be lucky to find a sentence actually reviewing sport on TV.


I forgot to mention the other day, I liked that comment from Stephen Mulhern that he wasn't surprised Konnie Huq didn't do very well on The Xtra Factor because people don't reliase "how difficult" it is to do an ITV2 spin-off. Ha! Hardest job in the world! These war correspondents have it easy, they want to try approaching Amanda Holden at the tea bar. What is the appeal of this awful man?


Different thing, it depends on what label the production company want to use. The great example is That Mitchell And Webb Look, as the four series have been released on DVD on, respectively, Contender, FremantleMedia, BBC DVD and FremantleMedia again, despite every series being an in-house DVD production.

Sometimes you'll get an independent production for the Beeb released on BBC DVD - all the Alan Partridge DVDs, for example - and sometimes they'll be released on an indpendent label. Depends who the company want to use.


That's exactly right, everything big on BBC3 gets the 10.30 slot because it gets the 'stEnders lead-in and doesn't have to compete with the big juggernauts on other channels - let alone the fact BBC3's younger audience tends to stay up later than other channels. Hence why loads of Family Guy repeats after eleven o'clock get in the BBC3 chart and regularly beat the big five channels.


Well, they've not done it that recently, but five years ago or so they used to sometimes have special weeks, for the Chelsea Flower Show or Wimbledon or something, where they'd have reports during Breakfast and then the last half hour would be anchored from the event, which would sometimes go on until 9.30 or 10am. Might be the case here.

What they could have done is swapped Casualty and SYTYCD so that Casualty begins immediately when the first half of Britain's Got Talent ends, and that STUPID Popstar To Operastar show starts, where everyone will switch over. Then viewers would probably have stuck withit until 9.50 with people switching over at the end for the result of BGT, everyone knows that'd be right at the end. Then with Who at the start, that could have helped spoil both parts of BGT.

This is going back a bit but it reminds me of when ITV were desperately trying to prop up that awful sitcom Days Like These so stuffed an episode on a Sunday between Corrie and imperial phase Millionaire to try and get an audience. Then BBC1 promptly scheduled Ground Force opposite it, when that was big, and everyone just switched over for half an hour.

Jeff Stelling quits Countdown: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...=feeds-newsxml

I think it'll end at the end of the year, to be honest. Note the end bit:


So probably best to end it now.

you couldnt make it up (well maybe!)

Hmm, Case Histories - what's this ?

Surely not a new crime drama on the BBC, the laziest and easiest genre to do.

Not quite surrendering - Lord of the Rings usually does relatively well for C4. I see they've gone for Titanic against the Champions League. Benjamin Button though, being a 12A and over three hours long, would surely have been better in an 8pm slot than 9pm.

And Pop to Op should beat SYTYCD quite comfortably I'd have thought. I was thinking one of the (many) problems with SYTYCD is the prize just isn't really tangible. Perhaps a Strictly spin-off where the winner becomes a Strictly pro might be more likely to bring in the audience.

Oh, talking of Strictly Claudia Winkleman has quit It Takes Two as she's pregnant, but is still likely to do the Strictly results. I would guess It Takes Two will continue with a new host.

As many as that? 1% of homes would make 260,000.

The last I heard (end of 2010), Sky had enabled 70,000 homes for 3d. As many of those would be on the back of sports, their biggest 3d content, I imagine quite a few of the 200k of potential viewers may have watched it.