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Old 16-05-2011, 18:17
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Deadline saying Terra Nova might go on Mondays at 8pm with House moving to 9pm. Glee on Tuesdays followed by a comedy hour. X Factor on Wednesdays followed by a sitcom at 9.30pm. X Factor & Bones on Thursdays.

Quite how they format X Factor, I'm not sure. If they launch a week early, they'll go head-to-head with the final of America's Got Talent (and most likely the premiere of Survivor and the finale of Big Brother). They could just do one episode in its first week and launch on the Thursday.

If they launch in premiere week (which I think is w/c 19th Sept) then they'll need to trim 2 weeks from the existing format.
They could always do a "sneak peak" episode a couple of weeks in advance. Is a tight squeeze - they could I guess revert to the categories being split from the Boot Camp stage with judges each staging their own boot camp and drop the Judges Home stage, so at the end of boot camp each judge has their final three. That would save a week, but also remove one of the things which differentiates it from Idol.

Losing one live show shouldn't be a problem either - they can throw in a double elimination somewhere.


I have a bad feeling about a second series of this, just as I had a bad feeling about a second series of So You Think You Can Dance.

Especially in summer!
I have a bad feeling more in the way I had a bad feeling about Sing if you Can. I think it might do rather well, relatively speaking.
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Old 16-05-2011, 18:18
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BBC One
6.10pm Land Girls 2.97m (15.5%)
7.00pm Countryfile Compilation 5.94m (26.7%)
8.00pm Pirates of the Caribbean: the Curse of the Black Pearl 6.96m (27.9%)

ITV1
7.00pm The Cube 4.12m (18.5%) and 222,000 (0.9%) on ITV1+1.
8.00pm Vera 5.46m (21.8%) and 169,000 (0.7%) on ITV1+1.
10.15pm Perspectives 0.95m (5.7%)

BBC Two
8.00pm Britain's Secret Seas 1.67m (6.7%)
9.00pm Operation Crossbow 1.90m (7.5%)
10.00pm MotD2 3.31m (18.5%)

Channel 4
7.00pm Come Dine With Me 1.62m (7.3%) and 331,000 (1.3%) on C4+1.
8.00pm The Hotel 1.63m (6.6%) and 204,000 (0.8%) on C4+1.
9.00pm Die Hard 4.0 1.44m (6.9%) and 307,000 (2.3%) on C4+1.

Channel 5
6.05pm Zathura: a Space Adventure 1.1m (5.2%)
8.10pm Practical Magic 792,000 (3.2%)
10.00pm The Walking Dead 1.06m (5.4%)

Taken from:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/...rtains-1m.html

...where shares and multichannel ratings can be found, too.

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Old 16-05-2011, 18:34
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Irish Eurovision ratings: 1,174,300
*peak 1,456,360

Most watched Eurovision in Ireland for 15 years. Had a 71% share for 15-24 year olds. http://www.rte.ie/ten/2011/0516/eurovision.html

2003 - 843,000
2004 - 629,000
2005 - 347,000
2006 - 652,000
2007 - 676,000
2008 - 331,000
2009 - 396,000
2010 - 718,000
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Old 16-05-2011, 18:35
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BBC One showing this weekend that this TV lark is really an easy business.

You just put on a feed of Eurovision one night, an 8 year old film the next night, and watch the ratings pile in ! Brilliant ratings for POTC.

I expect ITV will look at those Eurovision figures and fancy getting hold of it, like they did with the Royal Variety. It would fit in with their other light entertainent credentials.

How locked in to the BBC is Eurovision ?
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Old 16-05-2011, 18:39
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How locked in to the BBC is Eurovision ?
The BBC automatically get the rights to be the British broadcaster that participates in the contest.
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Old 16-05-2011, 18:40
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BBC One showing this weekend that this TV lark is really an easy business.

You just put on a feed of Eurovision one night, an 8 year old film the next night, and watch the ratings pile in ! Brilliant ratings for POTC.

I expect ITV will look at those Eurovision figures and fancy getting hold of it, like they did with the Royal Variety. It would fit in with their other light entertainent credentials.

How locked in to the BBC is Eurovision ?
This is what I've been wondering. It seems odd we never hear about the rights to Eurovision, it's just automatically assumed it will always be on the BBC - yet ITV is also a member of the EBU, and in fact broadcast the Junior contest for a few years before the UK withdrew (due to poor viewing figures IIRC )
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Old 16-05-2011, 18:41
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They automatically get the rights to be the British entrant. ITV would only be able to be in charge if the BBC gives it up.
Which might just happen, if we ever win the bl@@dy thing - hosting it the following year might just cripple a commercial broadcaster

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Old 16-05-2011, 18:41
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They automatically get the rights to be the British entrant. ITV would only be able to be in charge if the BBC gives it up.
Can't see that happening anytime soon. I just wish the BBC weren't so inconsistent in their approach to choosing our entry.
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Old 16-05-2011, 18:42
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The Eurovision Song Contest was the surprise winner this weekend. It proves that the contest still has a massive following.
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Old 16-05-2011, 18:45
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The BBC automatically get the rights to be the British broadcaster that participates in the contest.
But why ? Surely that goes against some sort of anti-competition European law

ITV have EBU membership don't they ?
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Old 16-05-2011, 18:47
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Irish Eurovision ratings: 1,174,300
*peak 1,456,360

Most watched Eurovision in Ireland for 15 years. Had a 71% share for 15-24 year olds. http://www.rte.ie/ten/2011/0516/eurovision.html

2003 - 843,000
2004 - 629,000
2005 - 347,000
2006 - 652,000
2007 - 676,000
2008 - 331,000
2009 - 396,000
2010 - 718,000
Jedward seem really popular in their own country then. Who would have thought they were such ratings pullers, generating massive increases (at least in part) across two countries!

RTE and the BBC will be agreement that they both will want them to take part again next year, assuming there is no rule about multiple appearances
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Old 16-05-2011, 18:49
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I expect ITV will look at those Eurovision figures and fancy getting hold of it, like they did with the Royal Variety. It would fit in with their other light entertainent credentials.

How locked in to the BBC is Eurovision ?
I'm sure the EBU would really trust ITV after the debacle with the Junior Eurovision.

http://www.esctoday.com/news/read/27...f167057b628e3d
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Old 16-05-2011, 18:50
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I'm sure the EBU would really trust ITV after the debacle with the Junior Eurovision.

http://www.esctoday.com/news/read/27...f167057b628e3d
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Old 16-05-2011, 18:51
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But why ? Surely that goes against some sort of anti-competition European law

ITV have EBU membership don't they ?
To my knowledge, in each country the broadcaster that took part in the contest the previous year is automatically invited to participate the following year.
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Old 16-05-2011, 18:53
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Jedward seem really popular in their own country then. Who would have thought they were such ratings pullers, generating massive increases (at least in part) across two countries!

RTE and the BBC will be agreement that they both will want them to take part again next year, assuming there is no rule about multiple appearances
I don't think the BBC will be worrying about who represents Ireland next year, but the BBC might be keen to find another well known UK act for their own entry.

Wouldn't surprise me if RTE goes down the solo singer with a ballad route for its shortlist next year.
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Old 16-05-2011, 18:54
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But why ? Surely that goes against some sort of anti-competition European law

ITV have EBU membership don't they ?
Indeed, I was searching (in vain) to find some historic Eurovision ratings on the net yesterday, and noticed that on the Eurovision website, it says "BBC, ITV" under UK broadcaster.

Perhaps ITV have the right to simulcast the show, but decline because they would be whupped 3 or 4 to 1 by the BBC, like every other time they simulcast something? (And they can get better ratings with dancing dogs and Drears Morgan?)
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Old 16-05-2011, 18:55
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I think this'll be the final season of House anyway
Considering that Hugh Laurie's contract ends after Season 8 and they've only renewed the contracts of the other actors for one more season, i'm guessing that it'll be the final season of House whether Terra Nova is a success or not.
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Old 16-05-2011, 18:57
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I see the BREAKING NEWS banner is back - at least on my pc.

Has she quit again? :yawn:

I didn't think it merited a banner first time round....
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Old 16-05-2011, 18:58
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I see the BREAKING NEWS banner is back - at least on my pc.

Has she quit again? :yawn:

I didn't think it merited a banner first time round....
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Old 16-05-2011, 19:04
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Some more Eurovision ratings:

Greece - 2.9m (68.6%)
2010 - 3.1m
2009 - 3.6m
2008 - 3.2m
2007 - 2.8m
2006 - 3.2m
2005 - 3.1m
2004 - 3.1m
2003 - 1.9m
2002 - 1.5m

Denmark - 1.38m
2010 - 1.65m
2009 - 1.45m
2008 - 985,000
2007 - 487,000
2006 - 1.7m
2005 - 1.4m
2004 - 582,000
2003 - 1.1m
2002 - 2.0m
2001 - 2.6m
2000 - 1.4m

Sweden - 2.88m
2010 - 1.7m
2009 - 3.1m
2008 - 2.8m
2007 - 3.4m
2006 - 3.2m
2005 - 3.3m
2004 - 3.5m
2003 - 3.4m
2002 - 3.3m
2001 - 3.5m
2000 - 3.7m

Spain - 4.17m (28.9%)
2010 - 5.7m
2009 - 5.1m
2008 - 9.3m
2007 - 3.3m
2006 - 4.8m
2005 - 4.7m
2004 - 6.8m
2003 - 8.7m
2002 - 12.7m
2001 - 5.6m
Interesting figures-so it seems that for other countries this years contest wasn't a particular draw and has rated fairly averagely or even on the low side compared to previous years. Spain's figures make for particularly interesting reading it seems as though the country falls in and out of love with Eurovision on a yearly basis and the jump between 2007 and 2008 is staggering!
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Old 16-05-2011, 19:06
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Despite the predictable responses from Robbie etc, I'd still be interested in the technicalities of the Eurovision rights.

Surely if ITV were able to simulcast it,it would have been done at least once at some point, or at least suggested in a tabloid, like the debates surrounding football rights. The point here is that it is never even suggested ever.

According to the EBU website, the members in the UK are the BBC, ITV (including STV, UTV & Channel) and Channel 4. But no mention of Channel 5 or indeed Sky.
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Old 16-05-2011, 19:11
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That Irish Eurovision rating is massive, considering Ireland's population is 4m. The Danish and Swedish ratings are also very decent for the populations of their countries. It would be interesting to see some Eastern European ratings as well.
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Old 16-05-2011, 19:13
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Interesting figures-so it seems that for other countries this years contest wasn't a particular draw and has rated fairly averagely or even on the low side compared to previous years. Spain's figures make for particularly interesting reading it seems as though the country falls in and out of love with Eurovision on a yearly basis and the jump between 2007 and 2008 is staggering!
On the surface they look average but you have to take into account the population of the country. For example, 9m people live in Sweden, so nearly a third of the population watched the contest. That's like a TV show in the UK getting 20m viewers.
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Old 16-05-2011, 19:13
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This is what I've been wondering. It seems odd we never hear about the rights to Eurovision, it's just automatically assumed it will always be on the BBC - yet ITV is also a member of the EBU, and in fact broadcast the Junior contest for a few years before the UK withdrew (due to poor viewing figures IIRC )
Iirc at the time the BBC declined the oppertunity to be part of it, so it passed to ITV. Who could forget the dream team of Tara Palmer Tompkinson and Mark Durden-Smith in Wogans shoes

I don't even want to remember the Eurovision Dance contest
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Old 16-05-2011, 19:23
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To be fair, ITV is different today compared to but I'd fully understand why the EBU would be very wary about allowing them to pick up the contest ahead of the BBC.

Anyway, what a stunning rating for Pirates of the Carribbean! I didn't expect that and, reading the thread, no one else did either. Vera held up extremely well though and The Cube is finding a bit of an audience thanks Countrywise being filler. Can't BBC1 bring themselves to drop the show for a couple of weeks or something?
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