you know what worrys me about the Cheryl Cole / The Voice stories, is that it suggests that ITV is leading, and the BBC is following, which really isnt how it should be.

Moving on, if Cheryl really feels she cant work for Simon Cowell again (which im not sure I buy, are we really to believe she is so high on her own self importantce than X-Factor UK is now beneath her?) she could always join Jeresy Shore: Newcastle

Geordie Shore, thats it, she could always join Geordie Shore, forgot the name for the moment.

Sky Sports 2 Golf ratings:

Thu 26th May: 15:00-18:00: 92k
Fri 27th May: 15:00-18:00: 120k


Wales v Northern Ireland (19:00- 22:00): 139k

Thanks - not too bad then given the woeful atmosphere of playing to an empty house. I'm sure Sky would keep the rights if they were cheap and they could get some reasonable atmosphere at the grounds.

It really looks like the FAI (Football Association of Ireland) have really messed up in trying to overprice an event where there is very limit demand. Also the absence of a lot of key players from the team squads hasn't helped.

Awful night for BBC1, even before the football started. Not quite sure why DW fell so dramatically considering it was up against the pre football commentary which usually rates really badly. I was expecting 6m+. I also expected stuff like the lottery to hold up better, considering it does better than that against BGT which surely shares more of an audience.

As expected for the football, and Ch4's Titanic repeat did well and MPD got a boost from weak competition. Decent enough for CSI:NY's penultimate episode, which was probably the best episode in a quite a while.

you're actually borderline obsessed. only you could turn a great football rating into a disaster by comparing it to Eurovision of all things. You must be torture in real life if someone mentions they watched a programme on ITV.

whilst we are making Jedwood jokes, I hear romours that Channels 5s next reality show will be "I want to be Jedwood"

or Jedward as its apparntly spelt.

The show seeks to find two Jedwood look a likes, in order to sub for the boys, when they are too busy to attending the opening of your local Poundland.

So 262 viewers for each person at the stadium. If last night's final had achieved that, it would have got 22,976,090 viewers!!

That is catch 22 though. Yes, it moves an hour from weekdays, but it also kind of moves Sunday night into the week - and like it or not, ITV have had a much more varied Sunday night schedule since hte soaps and Heartbeat were pulled. It might not rate as well, but it's freshened things up a bit, although it took at least a year to stabilise it outside of Dancing on Ice.

The sixth Emmerdale doesn't help - but if that was dropped (or returned to 7.30pm against EE) and Thursdays Corrie moves to Wednesday that frees up an hour to start with and at least sees ITV return to offering a mix of shows from Tue-Thu after 8pm.


Well it was. Agree though it is slightly underwhelming and it'll be interesting to see the figures come in from across Europe over the next couple of days and how it compares to the Wednesday night final of two years ago.


I'd have thought Sky got the rights by default considering they have the rights to the home games of all the nations involved. Stupid idea though having them all in one stadium.

So 139k watched on Sky - the Wales games were also on S4C (though not with the English commentary option) - I wonder if they may have outrated Sky.


P.S. Notice in the on-air promos C4 have renamed Diagnosis: Live from the Clinic as Embarassing Bodies: Live from the Clinic.

Interesting stats. It seems that timeshift technology continues to get easier and easier to use and more and more people now fit television into their life rather than run their life around television. As it should be.





And my award for Best Poster on the DS Ratings Thread goes to rzt.

On this thread we have:
RobbieSykes spinning for the BBC.
GeorgeS spinning for ITV
Dancc spinning for Channel 5
and various other posters showing their bias for one channel or another

and then we have neutral rzt who counters the propaganda and uninformed comments with plain facts.


Well done, rzt. Keep it up

Of course she'll be on X Factor. Can't believe anyone is falling for all this bumf about will she won't she, is she having a breakdown, can she be reconciled with simon...

Its a remarkable coincidence that this 'story' was timed with perfection to coincide with TXF-Dancing Dogs Edition taking over the schedules like an ebola virus for the next week with the chief ebola-spreader returning to the circus too.

Call me an old cynic...

All over the front pages again today. Like anyone really gives a flying frig. I might try and get a superinjunction out against Cheryl Cole/Simon Cowell stories...

For the record, whilst I am undoubtedly a BBC supporter, I try to be objective. If I do over-emphasise ITV's shortcomings and put the BBC's case, it's because of the pro-ITV bias on DS generally and on this tread specifically.

I do praise ITV and recognise good ratings performances, when credit is due.

What are the iPlayer figures?

Those aren't included in BARB figures are they?

I watch more on the iPlayer than I did a few years ago (including catching up on DW!).

I'm not actually surprised that DW fell against prematch Football, because of all the hype surrounding the game. After all a live event always benefits from well (stating the obvious) being 'live' and even though it wasn't the match itself it does enable people to be part of the atmosphere/build up to the match.

..and of course DW is consistently the number one HD show of the week, where 100% of Sky HD viewers have Sky+ (over 5 millions homes at the last count). HD PVRs are in the minority of Freeview/Freesat HD homes.

you would have my support.

you aren't above a bit of spinning yourself now

Dont forget GlennA who spins for the 1980's and Pizzaction who spins for Last Of The Summer Wine.

A lot of premature comments regarding Doctor Who's "decline". If people compared the total reach figures for this series against earlier series then the picture would be totally different.

21k (0.1%) watched on +1.

Can't see there being much audience for football or indeed any other sport on +1. I think most would just tune in at half time rather than watch from the beginning an hour late.

According to the BBC iPlayer pack for April, the first episode of the current series of Doctor Who had 1.379m requests. That was the top rated programme on BBC iPlayer last month. If you were to calculate a total weekly reach for Doctor Who series-by-series, I think this series would be on a par, if not better rated, than at least three of the five previous series.


Thanks iaindb. I have my preferences too, naturally, more for types of programming than bias for specific channels - for e.g. I watch BBC1/ITV1 much more than a channel like Channel5, not out of snobbery or anything like that but because they show far more British drama which I generally prefer to US crime procedural shows. But at the end of the day, I don't see the point of being biased when it comes to analysing ratings, although a difference of opinion is what makes a forum I suppose!


PJMillar- do you know what the Champions League Final got on Sky Sports 1? Particularly the match average and peak? Cheers.

Trouble is tomorrow's episode is the last of a batch of four filmed together, and the second of a pair written by Daran Little, and if tomorrow's episode is below par by his standards, in the way Frday's episode was, it could have a detrimental effect on ratings for the rest of the week.

The football played a major factor in beating Who Dares Wins since the show ran practically agatinst the first half when Man Utd had a slim chance since it was 1-1.

Looking at the Champions League vs Lottery last year (22nd May).

In It to Win It 2012 - 5.29 million
Champions League: Bayern Munich Vs Inter Milan 3.17 million

If last night's final didn't feature an English side then the figures would be the same to last year.

Don't forget this is also the start of the Summer Term half term for schools, also being it a bank holiday weekend. You could say that is a factor as well.

The BBC Two golf figure was actually lower than that because there was egg-chasing on BBC Two Wales, which has been included in that overnight figure.

sorry I dont understand, what were they doing on BBC 2 Wales?

Is Bauer your name, or the name of the media company you work for?

If you don't like Robbie's posts, use the "ignore" button.

I love the Robbie/GeorgeS banter. It's made me laugh out loud a few times today.

'Ey oop, happen that's a reet grand sitcom, tha knows.