Didn't expect BGT to fall so much from Monday. Doesn't look good for the rest of the week then as the weather is only supposed to get better!

Tonight it faces The Apprentice too. It could be heading sub-8m or close to it for the first time on a live show in years.

Last Year - Tuesday 1st June 2010
BBC1
7:30pm EastEnders - 6.24m (26%)
8:00pm Holby City - 3.81m (15.1%)
* 2011's viewership is down by 0.07m, but share is up
9:00pm Luther - 2.95m (11.6%)
* 2011's viewership for the equivalent programme is up by 0.15m and share is up

ITV1
7:00pm Emmerdale - 6.92m (34%)
7:30pm Britain's Got Talent - 9.82m (39.5%)
* 2011's viewership is down by 0.38m (or 0.07m), but share is up
9:00pm Coronation Street - 9.52m (37.6%)
9:30pm Britain's Got Talent - 9.52m (37.3%)
* 2011's viewership is down by 0.62m (or 0.36m) and share is down

BGT down by a fair bit compared to last year. With the competition tougher tonight, both shows could be under 9m. Waterloo Road could end up eating into it and The Apprentice vs BGT will be an interesting battle.

The Wednesday results show had 8.5m last year so it won't be anything new. The Friday one got 8.8m too.

Looking at BGT, if it peaked in the 20:15-20:30 chunk (presumably due to less ads) then it must have been consistently at 10m+ in the 8pm hour, suggesting that EE massively dented it, possibly to sub-8m, and that half hour dragged down the average. At least it won't have that working against it tonight.

EDIT: Just noticed that Primeval rating on Watch! Not sure if they'll be funding any more new drama!

The comparisons of y-o-y excl. +1 impact is meaningless. The show is doing fine y-o-y incl +1

It's still down, albeit marginally.

Holby seemed to suffer more than EE and Egypt did on Monday. Suspect there is more cross-over between Holby and BGT than the Egypt doc and possibly EE too. Be very interesting to see if EE bettered its Monday 5.2m - it should have done given it was head to head rather than 30 mins in.

I do think BBC1 could have held up even better this week without Springwatch. Stupid scheduling to have it dent an already weakened BBC1. I assume we didn't have SW in BGT Finals week last year?


50% of the viewers, but only 13% of the votes...

(Assuming there are 38 voting nations - I think that's right, but adjust the math accordingly if not. You get my point anyway.)

Eurovision can only restore its credibility, and banish bloc voting, if we have one pan-European phone-in and the song with the most votes wins.

Including +1 last night's performances show is down 4.4% on last year (9.75m vs 10.20m) and the results down 7.8% (9.17m vs 9.95m). The performances show did fine, and was in line with the slight decline for the auditions. The results are down a bit more but still within a reasonable-ish amount.

The results show is, but the performance show is well within the margin of error.

Clearly there are quite a few people who prefer to watch the 8.30pm screening as the 7.30 start is to early. So with the +1 service you get the best of both worlds. It does impact the extra show though.

It was a typo . I meant below 8m. It had 8.9m last night! The Apprentice and BGT will have a big crossover audience and gets a half hour head start. Viewers don't seem to be bothering with the results show, so will those who switch over at 9pm bother switching back?

Waterloo Road shouldn't be ruled out either. That has been going great guns this series and starts at 7.30pm. I can't see that going below 4m as it usually does and will knock 1m or so off between 7.30 and 8.30.

But in all, its quite ironic that a show is being discussed as a problem when its getting 9m viewers .

Well, quite. I mean if you include additional repeat showings in the figures this year, then it's bound to be up. Isn't that the point?

For y-o-y comparisons, the only constant is to compare like with like.

The share inc +1 for BGT was pretty much the same as Monday's inc. +1. I guess less people watch TV on a Tuesday? Wonder why

I think also the talent this year is pretty average. Not surprised the actual total viewers is slipping.

ITV1+1 launched last April, it is like for like.

How did the world ever manage without +1 channels.

We put a man on the moon 40 years ago, but it took till 2010 before we could watch an TV show which clashed with something else we wanted to watch first...

The talent levels have been appalling. The final already has 3 poor acts in it.

Yesterday's episodes were still down including +1 compared to the equivalent episodes last year. That's surprising given that the previous three episodes were all up y-o-y. I'll wait to see how EastEnders held up at 7.30pm to get an idea what sort of impact that had on BGT's average - last year EE had 6.2m on the Tuesday. Yesterday's share for the performance episode (incl +1) of 41.8% was up from last year's 41.5% but the results show was a couple of points down.

I have a feeling BGT's results show tonight could slip to the 8m mark, maybe slightly under. Last year's equivalent episode had 8.5m, assuming there's a drop of 5-10% like yesterday's episodes especially as it's up against The Apprentice, it's possibly going to get its lowest ever live show rating tonight (previous lowest is 7.9m).

Or they should keep it the way it is and shouldn't be taken so seriously by the people that dislike it.

I don't think Waterloo Road will manage 4m it will probably be around 3.5m-3.8m. Last year it fell to 2.71m against BGT but that was in a rough series so it should do better this year.

The Apprentice will be very interesting tonight though, it could beat BGT in the 16-34 demographic.

Here's yesterday's soap ratings:

BBC One
13:45- Doctors: 1.44m (18.6%)
19:30- EastEnders: 5.84m (26.7%)
* last year: 6.24m (26%)

ITV1
19:00- Emmerdale: 6.89m (36.8%)
21:00- Coronation Street: 10.19m (41%) , +1: 358k (1.7%)
* last year: 9.91m (39.2%)

Channel 4
18:30- Hollyoaks: 820k (4.6%)

Channel 5
13:45- Neighbours: 675k (8.7%)
17:30- Neighbours: 1.06m (8.3%)
18:00- Home and Away: 799k (4.9%)

Multichannels
BBC Three
22:00- EastEnders: 1.43m (6.7%)

E4
19:00- Hollyoaks: 364k (1.9%)

5*
18:30- Home and Away: 466k (2.6%)

Source: DS

Your argument never makes any sense. Would you allow people to vote for their own country? Otherwise countries like Germany and the UK would be massively penalised compared to the likes of San Marino.

Turkey or Greece would win every time.

So EastEnders was down, and Corrie was the most watched programme of the night? At this rate, Corrie will be boosting BGT, not "BGT boosting Corrie" as it was intended to be!

Although I would like to see a breakdown to see where all the viewers go in the 9:30pm changeover.

Eastenders up by 0.7% share points for the BBC1 showing and down by 400k on last year's equivilent episode then. BBC3 showing is down about 300k and down 1.6% share on last year's equivilent.

At the risk of you boring us for hours on +1 channels (again...) :yawn: +1 is different to repeat screenings. Since if I used my PVR to delay my viewing by 1 hour that would have been counted in the figures in 2010, why should my using ITV1+1 instead of my PVR to watch from 8.30 be any different?

at that Corrie rating! I was not expecting it to be so far ahead of even the BGT performances. Very surprising development. Also a bit worrying for BGT that it dropped a lot from Monday whereas Corrie only lost 0.2m. Also BGT Results dropping 1.3m from Corrie must be alarming for ITV - clearly the acts didn't hook people in enough. They should have promoted the fact that Amanda was performing too, that could've boosted the results a little. As for tonight, the weather isn't as good as yesterday and there is no EE so I predict:

Waterloo Road: 3.8m
Life of Riley: 2.4m
The Apprentice: 6.3m

Britain's Got Talent: 10.1m
Coronation Street: 10.0m
Britain's Got Talent Results: 8.3m