just looking at the Deadline Hollywood write up for some of ABCs new comedy, reading them as a man, they sound awful, not that kind of thing im intersted in watching at all.
The Ratings Thread (Part 20)
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Originally Posted by Charnham:
“Bad luck for The Wright Stuff, without wishing to sound judgemental, as this almost never happens, why film in a shopping centre and not a proper TV studio, then again look what happened to The One Show.”
“Bad luck for The Wright Stuff, without wishing to sound judgemental, as this almost never happens, why film in a shopping centre and not a proper TV studio, then again look what happened to The One Show.”
It's not filmed in a shopping centre, it's filmed in a studio on top of a shopping centre, as secure as any other facility probably. The reason it's filmed there is because when Princess were producing RI:SE, they originally did it from Sky's studios in Osterley but nobody could be bothered to travel there, so they wanted something more central. When RI:SE ended, The Wright Stuff took it over. The benefits of convenience and the view outweigh the 0.1% chance that something will happen like this. If anything it's probably safer to film from there than it is some really prominent building like TV Centre where everyone knows where it is.
It happened to Noel's House Party once, lest we forget.
Originally Posted by Ads:
“Those Pop Idol ratings are way below what the X Factor gets now. I know Pop Idol wasn't as big as the XF, but I thought it did a little higher than that.”
“Those Pop Idol ratings are way below what the X Factor gets now. I know Pop Idol wasn't as big as the XF, but I thought it did a little higher than that.”
It usually did, but Junior Eurovision meant it had to be shoved forward over an hour, usually it would be broadcast at 7pm, which didn't help. Pop Idol was the main reason why the Generation Game ended, it was thrashing it. Also the first series' final was just an hour at 7pm and a half hour results at 10pm, while the second series' final was a three hour marathon, 6.30-9.30pm (although it stopped at 8.45 for two minutes of news so the last half hour could count as a separate programme and get an artifically high rating).
Junior Eurovision was a terrible idea, not only because it buggered up Pop Idol that week. Of course they did that film about it, it was on More4 last week, which just treats it as a kind of freak show, it was never going to work as a piece of entertainment. Though as has been mentioned, for contractual reasons they had to show it on ITV2 for a few more years.
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“INowhere near as bad as I expected for TSTCE. In fact, it did very well indeed for the post-news slot.
I don't think programming like this merited 90 mins of primetime flagship slot on BBC1. It might have made a diverting hour in a worthy BBC2 slot, and probably not rated that differently.”
“INowhere near as bad as I expected for TSTCE. In fact, it did very well indeed for the post-news slot.
I don't think programming like this merited 90 mins of primetime flagship slot on BBC1. It might have made a diverting hour in a worthy BBC2 slot, and probably not rated that differently.”
I don't see why that of all shows was considered such a turn-off, it's been all over the papers, who wouldn't want to see Nick Robinson spreading dog muck all over the place? OK, maybe ninety minutes was a bit of an epic, but it's hardly John Pilger.
Originally Posted by Steve Williams:
“it happened to Noel's House Party once, lest we forget.”
“it happened to Noel's House Party once, lest we forget.”
I reckon Noel still harbours a suspicion that Cilla or someone at ITV was behind that particular incident, not that it did them any good - the Xmas Presents repeat/Tom & Jerry cartoon still got 10m and outrated Blind Date.
Originally Posted by Steve Williams:
“I don't see why that of all shows was considered such a turn-off, it's been all over the papers, who wouldn't want to see Nick Robinson spreading dog muck all over the place? OK, maybe ninety minutes was a bit of an epic, but it's hardly John Pilger.”
“I don't see why that of all shows was considered such a turn-off, it's been all over the papers, who wouldn't want to see Nick Robinson spreading dog muck all over the place? OK, maybe ninety minutes was a bit of an epic, but it's hardly John Pilger.”
The whole premise seemed a bit "naff Politics Show regional insert" rather than 90 mins of flagship BBC1 acreage. I figured it would be a much bigger turn-off than it evidently proved to be. It seemed exactly the sort of thing that would pull in a record low.
The Beeb bigwigs will probably consider it a huge success now...
Originally Posted by Steve Williams:
“It's not filmed in a shopping centre, it's filmed in a studio on top of a shopping centre, as secure as any other facility probably. The reason it's filmed there is because when Princess were producing RI:SE, they originally did it from Sky's studios in Osterley but nobody could be bothered to travel there, so they wanted something more central. When RI:SE ended, The Wright Stuff took it over. The benefits of convenience and the view outweigh the 0.1% chance that something will happen like this. If anything it's probably safer to film from there than it is some really prominent building like TV Centre where everyone knows where it is.”
“It's not filmed in a shopping centre, it's filmed in a studio on top of a shopping centre, as secure as any other facility probably. The reason it's filmed there is because when Princess were producing RI:SE, they originally did it from Sky's studios in Osterley but nobody could be bothered to travel there, so they wanted something more central. When RI:SE ended, The Wright Stuff took it over. The benefits of convenience and the view outweigh the 0.1% chance that something will happen like this. If anything it's probably safer to film from there than it is some really prominent building like TV Centre where everyone knows where it is.”
didnt think it was filmed in the middle of the shopping centre, and my post more or less points to the fact that I recongise it hasnt been a problem before, and that proper TV studios have plenty of things that can go wrong, in the same way this studio can.
That said, it does seem like there are more factors out of your control, if the studio is part of a public building like a shopping centre, eg the left bag that is assumed to be a bomb, that is less likely to happen in a professional studio complex with alot less public access.
On the wider issue of Eurovision, there is alot more of than just the big event everyone thinks of as eurovision, people do not seem to want the two semi finals, Junior Eurovision, and there was dance version at one stage.
Originally Posted by Steve Williams:
“It's not filmed in a shopping centre, it's filmed in a studio on top of a shopping centre, as secure as any other facility probably. The reason it's filmed there is because when Princess were producing RI:SE, they originally did it from Sky's studios in Osterley but nobody could be bothered to travel there, so they wanted something more central. When RI:SE ended, The Wright Stuff took it over. The benefits of convenience and the view outweigh the 0.1% chance that something will happen like this. If anything it's probably safer to film from there than it is some really prominent building like TV Centre where everyone knows where it is.”
“It's not filmed in a shopping centre, it's filmed in a studio on top of a shopping centre, as secure as any other facility probably. The reason it's filmed there is because when Princess were producing RI:SE, they originally did it from Sky's studios in Osterley but nobody could be bothered to travel there, so they wanted something more central. When RI:SE ended, The Wright Stuff took it over. The benefits of convenience and the view outweigh the 0.1% chance that something will happen like this. If anything it's probably safer to film from there than it is some really prominent building like TV Centre where everyone knows where it is.”
Wasn't Channel 4's The TV Show filmed there as well before they quietly pulled the plug on it?
FALL:
Monday:
8pm - Dancing With The Stars
10pm - Castle
Tuesday:
8pm - LAST MAN STANDING *NEW*
8.30pm - MAN UP *NEW*
9pm - Dancing With The Stars Results
10pm - Body of Proof
Wednesday:
8pm - The Middle
8.30pm - SUBURGATORY *NEW*
9pm - Modern Family
9.30pm - Happy Endings (new timeslot)
10pm - REVENGE *NEW*
Thursday:
8pm - CHARLIE'S ANGELS *NEW*
9pm - Grey's Anatomy
10pm - Private Practice
Friday:
8pm - Extreme Makeover: Home Edition (new timeslot)
9pm - Shark Tank
10pm - 20/20
Sunday:
8pm - ONCE UPON A TIME *NEW*
9pm - Desperate Housewives
10pm - PAN AM *NEW*
4 new dramas and 3 new sitcoms.
They've got 4 new dramas (Good Christian Belles, Missing, Scandal, The River) and 2 new sitcoms (Apartment 23, Work It) on hold for midseason plus Cougar Town.
Monday:
8pm - Dancing With The Stars
10pm - Castle
Tuesday:
8pm - LAST MAN STANDING *NEW*
8.30pm - MAN UP *NEW*
9pm - Dancing With The Stars Results
10pm - Body of Proof
Wednesday:
8pm - The Middle
8.30pm - SUBURGATORY *NEW*
9pm - Modern Family
9.30pm - Happy Endings (new timeslot)
10pm - REVENGE *NEW*
Thursday:
8pm - CHARLIE'S ANGELS *NEW*
9pm - Grey's Anatomy
10pm - Private Practice
Friday:
8pm - Extreme Makeover: Home Edition (new timeslot)
9pm - Shark Tank
10pm - 20/20
Sunday:
8pm - ONCE UPON A TIME *NEW*
9pm - Desperate Housewives
10pm - PAN AM *NEW*
4 new dramas and 3 new sitcoms.
They've got 4 new dramas (Good Christian Belles, Missing, Scandal, The River) and 2 new sitcoms (Apartment 23, Work It) on hold for midseason plus Cougar Town.
ABC's Mondays stay the same.
As predicted, they've opened a male comedy hour at 8pm on Tuesdays where it faces NCIS, Glee and The Biggest Loser.
Man Up:
Last Man Standing:
They'll be hoping that Body of Proof delivers some better numbers than it has been but it should, at least, do better than Detroit 1-8-7. I'm not sure how the comedy block will do but it's well scheduled anyway.
Moving into Wednesday and ABC have given a massive vote of confidence to Happy Endings which has been doing mixed numbers at 10pm lately. That means only one new comedy:
Suburgatory:
It's a horrible name for a sitcom, but I think the plot sounds like it'll fit in better to that 8.30pm slot (between The Middle and Modern Family) than Better With You did.
The first new drama doesn't come until Wednesday night at 10pm where it follows Happy Endings. Last years new 10pm drama was pulled after about 2 or 3 weeks IIRC (The Whole Truth). Previous occupants include Eastwick, Life On Mars, Dirty Sexy Money, The Nine and Invasion. So best of luck to Revenge which gets that slot this season!
Revenge:
No surprises to find the Charlie's Angels reboot take the 8pm slot and everything else remain the same after that. I'll not bother with the synopsis, but it (and full versions of all the others) are on Deadline or TVBTN as part of the ABC press release.
The big one for ABC looks to be Sundays. They'll expand ther scripted content to 3 hours - 2 of them new. We knew Brothers & Sisters would go but they've dropped unscripted fare from 8pm as well. And the shows they have ordered appear to be their boldest, most adventurous commissions.
First up at 8pm is
Once Upon A Time:
Rumour spread last night that Good Christian Belles would be held until midseason and that has proven correct. Pan Am is the beneficiary, netting the Desperate Housewives lead-in. It's one of 2 new period dramas set in the 1960's - The Playboy Club on NBC airs on Mondays at 10pm.
Pan Am
http://www.deadline.com/2011/05/abc-...time-schedule/
As predicted, they've opened a male comedy hour at 8pm on Tuesdays where it faces NCIS, Glee and The Biggest Loser.
Man Up:
Quote:
“Will’s grandfather fought in WWII. Will’s father fought in Vietnam. Will plays Call of Duty on his PS3 and drinks non-dairy hazelnut creamer. So what happened to all the real men? They’re still here -- they just smell like pomegranate body wash now. Meet Will (Mather Zickel). His evolved, sensitive nature is why his awesome wife, Theresa (Teri Polo), married him. But Will and his friends find themselves wondering -- in a world of Axe ads and manscaping -- what does it really mean to be a guy anymore.”
“Will’s grandfather fought in WWII. Will’s father fought in Vietnam. Will plays Call of Duty on his PS3 and drinks non-dairy hazelnut creamer. So what happened to all the real men? They’re still here -- they just smell like pomegranate body wash now. Meet Will (Mather Zickel). His evolved, sensitive nature is why his awesome wife, Theresa (Teri Polo), married him. But Will and his friends find themselves wondering -- in a world of Axe ads and manscaping -- what does it really mean to be a guy anymore.”
Last Man Standing:
Quote:
“Tim Allen returns to ABC in this new comedy from Jack Burditt (“30 Rock”). Men may have built civilizations, invented the locomotive and created ESPN, but they’re about to find out that it’s not a man’s world anymore. You can’t get manlier than Mike Baxter. He’s the marketing director for an iconic outdoor sporting goods store, he loves to have adventures while he’s traveling for work and, of course, he drives a pick-up truck. While Mike is king of the hill at work, he’s the odd man out in a home that is dominated by women -- namely his wife, Vanessa, and their three daughters, 22- year-old Kristin, 17-year-old Mandy and 14-year-old Eve. After being a stay-at-home mom for years, Vanessa recently returned to the workplace and was quickly promoted (much to the dismay of her primarily male co-workers). As a result of Vanessa’s increased work load, Mike is pulled into more hands-on parenting than ever before.”
“Tim Allen returns to ABC in this new comedy from Jack Burditt (“30 Rock”). Men may have built civilizations, invented the locomotive and created ESPN, but they’re about to find out that it’s not a man’s world anymore. You can’t get manlier than Mike Baxter. He’s the marketing director for an iconic outdoor sporting goods store, he loves to have adventures while he’s traveling for work and, of course, he drives a pick-up truck. While Mike is king of the hill at work, he’s the odd man out in a home that is dominated by women -- namely his wife, Vanessa, and their three daughters, 22- year-old Kristin, 17-year-old Mandy and 14-year-old Eve. After being a stay-at-home mom for years, Vanessa recently returned to the workplace and was quickly promoted (much to the dismay of her primarily male co-workers). As a result of Vanessa’s increased work load, Mike is pulled into more hands-on parenting than ever before.”
They'll be hoping that Body of Proof delivers some better numbers than it has been but it should, at least, do better than Detroit 1-8-7. I'm not sure how the comedy block will do but it's well scheduled anyway.
Moving into Wednesday and ABC have given a massive vote of confidence to Happy Endings which has been doing mixed numbers at 10pm lately. That means only one new comedy:
Suburgatory:
Quote:
“Single father George only wants the best for his 16-year-old daughter, Tessa. So when he finds a box of condoms on her nightstand, he moves them out of their apartment in New York City to a house in the suburbs. But all Tessa sees is the horror of over-manicured lawns and plastic Franken-moms. Being in the ‘burbs can be hell, but it also may just bring Tessa and George closer than they’ve ever been.
Tessa (Jane Levy) and George (Jeremy Sisto) have been on their own ever since Tessa’s mom pulled a “Kramer vs. Kramer” before she was even potty trained. So far, George has done a pretty good job of raising Tessa without a maternal figure in their lives, but suddenly he’s feeling a little out of his league. So it’s goodbye New York City and hello suburbs. At first Tessa is horrified by the big-haired, fake-boobed mothers and their sugar-free Red Bull-chugging kids”
“Single father George only wants the best for his 16-year-old daughter, Tessa. So when he finds a box of condoms on her nightstand, he moves them out of their apartment in New York City to a house in the suburbs. But all Tessa sees is the horror of over-manicured lawns and plastic Franken-moms. Being in the ‘burbs can be hell, but it also may just bring Tessa and George closer than they’ve ever been.
Tessa (Jane Levy) and George (Jeremy Sisto) have been on their own ever since Tessa’s mom pulled a “Kramer vs. Kramer” before she was even potty trained. So far, George has done a pretty good job of raising Tessa without a maternal figure in their lives, but suddenly he’s feeling a little out of his league. So it’s goodbye New York City and hello suburbs. At first Tessa is horrified by the big-haired, fake-boobed mothers and their sugar-free Red Bull-chugging kids”
It's a horrible name for a sitcom, but I think the plot sounds like it'll fit in better to that 8.30pm slot (between The Middle and Modern Family) than Better With You did.
The first new drama doesn't come until Wednesday night at 10pm where it follows Happy Endings. Last years new 10pm drama was pulled after about 2 or 3 weeks IIRC (The Whole Truth). Previous occupants include Eastwick, Life On Mars, Dirty Sexy Money, The Nine and Invasion. So best of luck to Revenge which gets that slot this season!
Revenge:
Quote:
“Wealth, beauty and status define the people in this town, but one woman is willing to destroy everyone for the sake of revenge. Emily Thorne (Emily Van Camp) is new to the Hamptons. She’s met some of her wealthy neighbors, has made a few new friends and seemingly blends into the town. But something is a little odd about a young girl living in a wealthy town all on her own, and the truth is that Emily isn’t exactly new to the neighborhood. In fact, this was once her old neighborhood, until something bad happened that ruined her family and their reputation. Now Emily is back, and she’s returned to right some of those wrongs in the best way she knows how – with a vengeance.”
“Wealth, beauty and status define the people in this town, but one woman is willing to destroy everyone for the sake of revenge. Emily Thorne (Emily Van Camp) is new to the Hamptons. She’s met some of her wealthy neighbors, has made a few new friends and seemingly blends into the town. But something is a little odd about a young girl living in a wealthy town all on her own, and the truth is that Emily isn’t exactly new to the neighborhood. In fact, this was once her old neighborhood, until something bad happened that ruined her family and their reputation. Now Emily is back, and she’s returned to right some of those wrongs in the best way she knows how – with a vengeance.”
No surprises to find the Charlie's Angels reboot take the 8pm slot and everything else remain the same after that. I'll not bother with the synopsis, but it (and full versions of all the others) are on Deadline or TVBTN as part of the ABC press release.
The big one for ABC looks to be Sundays. They'll expand ther scripted content to 3 hours - 2 of them new. We knew Brothers & Sisters would go but they've dropped unscripted fare from 8pm as well. And the shows they have ordered appear to be their boldest, most adventurous commissions.
First up at 8pm is
Once Upon A Time:
Quote:
“From the inventive minds of “Lost” executive producers Adam Horowitz and Edward Kitsis comes a bold new imagining of the world, where fairy tales and the modern-day are about to collide.
And they all lived happily ever after – or so everyone was led to believe. Emma Swan knows how to take care of herself. She’s a 28-year-old bail bonds collector who’s been on her own ever since she was abandoned as a baby. But when the son she gave up years ago finds her, everything starts to change. Henry is now 10 years old and in desperate need of Emma’s help. He believes that Emma actually comes from an alternate world and is Snow White and Prince Charming’s missing daughter. According to his book of fairytales, they sent her away to protect her from the Evil Queen’s curse, which trapped the fairytale world forever, frozen in time, and brought them into our modern world. Of course Emma doesn’t believe a word, but when she brings Henry back to Storybrooke, she finds herself drawn to this unusual boy and his strange New England town. Concerned for Henry, she decides to stay for a while, but she soon suspects that Storybrooke is more than it seems. It’s a place where magic has been forgotten, but is still powerfully close… where fairytale characters are alive, even though they don’t remember who they once were. The epic battle for the future of all worlds is beginning, but for good to win, Emma will have to accept her destiny and fight like hell.”
“From the inventive minds of “Lost” executive producers Adam Horowitz and Edward Kitsis comes a bold new imagining of the world, where fairy tales and the modern-day are about to collide.
And they all lived happily ever after – or so everyone was led to believe. Emma Swan knows how to take care of herself. She’s a 28-year-old bail bonds collector who’s been on her own ever since she was abandoned as a baby. But when the son she gave up years ago finds her, everything starts to change. Henry is now 10 years old and in desperate need of Emma’s help. He believes that Emma actually comes from an alternate world and is Snow White and Prince Charming’s missing daughter. According to his book of fairytales, they sent her away to protect her from the Evil Queen’s curse, which trapped the fairytale world forever, frozen in time, and brought them into our modern world. Of course Emma doesn’t believe a word, but when she brings Henry back to Storybrooke, she finds herself drawn to this unusual boy and his strange New England town. Concerned for Henry, she decides to stay for a while, but she soon suspects that Storybrooke is more than it seems. It’s a place where magic has been forgotten, but is still powerfully close… where fairytale characters are alive, even though they don’t remember who they once were. The epic battle for the future of all worlds is beginning, but for good to win, Emma will have to accept her destiny and fight like hell.”
Rumour spread last night that Good Christian Belles would be held until midseason and that has proven correct. Pan Am is the beneficiary, netting the Desperate Housewives lead-in. It's one of 2 new period dramas set in the 1960's - The Playboy Club on NBC airs on Mondays at 10pm.
Pan Am
Quote:
“Passion, jealousy and espionage... They do it all – and they do it at 30,000 feet. The style of the 1960s, the energy and excitement of the Jet Age and a drama full of sexy entanglements deliciously mesh in this thrilling and highly-original new series.
In this modern world, air travel represents the height of luxury and Pan Am is the biggest name in the business. The planes are glamorous, the pilots are rock stars and the stewardesses are the most desirable women in the world. Not only are these flyboys and girls young and good looking, but to represent Pan Am they also have to be educated, cultured and refined. They’re trained to handle everything from in-air emergencies to unwanted advances – all without rumpling their pristine uniforms or mussing their hair. There’s Dean (Jonah Lotan) – a cocky, charismatic and ambitious new pilot – the first of a new breed not trained in the war.”
“Passion, jealousy and espionage... They do it all – and they do it at 30,000 feet. The style of the 1960s, the energy and excitement of the Jet Age and a drama full of sexy entanglements deliciously mesh in this thrilling and highly-original new series.
In this modern world, air travel represents the height of luxury and Pan Am is the biggest name in the business. The planes are glamorous, the pilots are rock stars and the stewardesses are the most desirable women in the world. Not only are these flyboys and girls young and good looking, but to represent Pan Am they also have to be educated, cultured and refined. They’re trained to handle everything from in-air emergencies to unwanted advances – all without rumpling their pristine uniforms or mussing their hair. There’s Dean (Jonah Lotan) – a cocky, charismatic and ambitious new pilot – the first of a new breed not trained in the war.”
http://www.deadline.com/2011/05/abc-...time-schedule/
Relatively conservative schedule moves for ABC, but I think most of it makes sense. Sticking you can't really criticise them for sticking to what works on Monday and Thursday (post 9pm) given the other changes they're making. 3 dramas on Sunday is a brave risk - but I think thats a great slot for Pan-Am and gives it the best possible chance of success. I fear for Charlie's Angels in the death-slot of Thursday, 8pm - though its the only drama there, so it really should be alright.
The comedy moves are the ones that confuse me - I'm surprised Happy Endings takes the post-MF slot, rather than a more buzzed pilot like Apartment 23. While the new Tuesday block looks doomed to failure on such a competitive night. Would they not have been better airing DWTS at 8, followed by female-skewing comedy at 9? (I suppose that would be head-to-head with Glee-fuelled Fox comedy, but given their reputation with live-action comedy, that wouldn't overly concern me.)
The comedy moves are the ones that confuse me - I'm surprised Happy Endings takes the post-MF slot, rather than a more buzzed pilot like Apartment 23. While the new Tuesday block looks doomed to failure on such a competitive night. Would they not have been better airing DWTS at 8, followed by female-skewing comedy at 9? (I suppose that would be head-to-head with Glee-fuelled Fox comedy, but given their reputation with live-action comedy, that wouldn't overly concern me.)
Originally Posted by sn_22:
“Relatively conservative schedule moves for ABC, but I think most of it makes sense. Sticking you can't really criticise them for sticking to what works on Monday and Thursday (post 9pm) given the other changes they're making. 3 dramas on Sunday is a brave risk - but I think thats a great slot for Pan-Am and gives it the best possible chance of success. I fear for Charlie's Angels in the death-slot of Thursday, 8pm - though its the only drama there, so it really should be alright.”
“Relatively conservative schedule moves for ABC, but I think most of it makes sense. Sticking you can't really criticise them for sticking to what works on Monday and Thursday (post 9pm) given the other changes they're making. 3 dramas on Sunday is a brave risk - but I think thats a great slot for Pan-Am and gives it the best possible chance of success. I fear for Charlie's Angels in the death-slot of Thursday, 8pm - though its the only drama there, so it really should be alright.”
I think Charlie's Angels should be a self starter. Remakes always tend to draw an audience to start with - Bionic Woman was one of the highest rated premieres in years! V did a 5.2 as well, IIRC, and didn't have a lead-in.
Quote:
“The comedy moves are the ones that confuse me - I'm surprised Happy Endings takes the post-MF slot, rather than a more buzzed pilot like Apartment 23. While the new Tuesday block looks doomed to failure on such a competitive night. Would they not have been better airing DWTS at 8, followed by female-skewing comedy at 9? (I suppose that would be head-to-head with Glee-fuelled Fox comedy, but given their reputation with live-action comedy, that wouldn't overly concern me.)”
“The comedy moves are the ones that confuse me - I'm surprised Happy Endings takes the post-MF slot, rather than a more buzzed pilot like Apartment 23. While the new Tuesday block looks doomed to failure on such a competitive night. Would they not have been better airing DWTS at 8, followed by female-skewing comedy at 9? (I suppose that would be head-to-head with Glee-fuelled Fox comedy, but given their reputation with live-action comedy, that wouldn't overly concern me.)”
I'm surprised that they didn't schedule Apartment 23 for fall - particularly as there's no obvious position for it midseason. The only thing I can think of is that they move Cougar Town to 9.30pm Mondays after DWTS and Apt 23 takes the 9.30pm Wednesday slot.
As for Tuesdays, I think they wanted the DWTS lead-in kept for Body of Proof which has been their first moderate success at 10pm on Tuesdays for years! So they'll not want to break that up. And if they were doing comedy at 8pm, I think it made sense to go for the male audience. It's a difficult slot for the comedies to start in. But I suspect that'll be reflected in expectations. Holding at around 1.8 will probably be enough.
Incidentally, this is the first schedule for ABC under the control of their new British boss, Paul Lee. I think that his success in September will be measured by that Sunday line-up and probably Charlie's Angels (just because it's so high profile). But he has left himself lots of options for midseason to give him a second chance at getting it right.
Interesting that Dave are starting a rerun of Gavin & Stacey tonight. A full series repeat started on BBC Three as recently as April, where it airs on Mondays, and GOLD showed it in full in February. UKTV and the BBC need to realise this show is not the UK's Friends, and there is only a finite number of episodes they can repeat.
Originally Posted by KennyT:
“But what if it goes on "Atlantic", The current share and reach for that is about a third of that for Sky1...
K”
“But what if it goes on "Atlantic", The current share and reach for that is about a third of that for Sky1...
K”
True, but I would think it's the perfect show to bolster Sky Living. Not really Atlantic primetime material (the women's stuff like ER and Thirtysomething are both daytime).
What are the demos for Glee?
I'm surprised Castle hasnt moved slots to say Wednesday as I imagine a new show would benefit from the DWTS lead in. Last Man Standing is interesting but it has Tim Allen who hasn't been on TV since Home Improvement.
Charlie's Angels will attract an interest, it's sort of a sequel to both the TV series and the films and it's a known title.
Can't wait to see the CBS schedule tomorrow. I think we'll see changes on Thursday either with Mentalist at 9 or a new drama like Person of Interest,
Charlie's Angels will attract an interest, it's sort of a sequel to both the TV series and the films and it's a known title.
Can't wait to see the CBS schedule tomorrow. I think we'll see changes on Thursday either with Mentalist at 9 or a new drama like Person of Interest,
Looks like CSI: NY has been saved but Criminal Minds Suspect Behaviour wasn't so lucky. Channel 5 will breathing a sigh of relief as it's a solid performer on Saturdays.
Originally Posted by Jonwo:
“Looks like CSI: NY has been saved but Criminal Minds Suspect Behaviour wasn't so lucky. Channel 5 will breathing a sigh of relief as it's a solid performer on Saturdays.”
“Looks like CSI: NY has been saved but Criminal Minds Suspect Behaviour wasn't so lucky. Channel 5 will breathing a sigh of relief as it's a solid performer on Saturdays.”
Source? Brilliant news if true, not that I'm doubting you or anything. What about CSI: Miami?
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Source? Brilliant news if true, not that I'm doubting you or anything. What about CSI: Miami?”
“Source? Brilliant news if true, not that I'm doubting you or anything. What about CSI: Miami?”
the ever realibe Deadline.
Nikki is doing a good job this year.
Originally Posted by Jonwo:
“Looks like CSI: NY has been saved but Criminal Minds Suspect Behaviour wasn't so lucky. Channel 5 will breathing a sigh of relief as it's a solid performer on Saturdays.”
“Looks like CSI: NY has been saved but Criminal Minds Suspect Behaviour wasn't so lucky. Channel 5 will breathing a sigh of relief as it's a solid performer on Saturdays.”
Brilliant news
..and as you say great for Ch5. I'm guessing it will remain on Fridays where it seems to be a solid 10m performer, but I reckon this season will be the last.
Originally Posted by ZoeMcCallister:
“Brilliant news..and as you say great for Ch5. I'm guessing it will remain on Fridays where it seems to be a solid 10m performer, but I reckon this season will be the last.”
“Brilliant news
..and as you say great for Ch5. I'm guessing it will remain on Fridays where it seems to be a solid 10m performer, but I reckon this season will be the last.”
we have been saying that about Chuck for a few yeras now
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“just looking at the Deadline Hollywood write up for some of ABCs new comedy, reading them as a man, they sound awful, not that kind of thing im intersted in watching at all.”
“just looking at the Deadline Hollywood write up for some of ABCs new comedy, reading them as a man, they sound awful, not that kind of thing im intersted in watching at all.”
Quote:
““WORK IT”
This high-concept comedy centers on two unrepentant guy’s guys who, unable to find work, dress as women to get jobs as pharmaceutical reps. Not only do they pull it off, but they might just learn to be better men in the process.”
““WORK IT”
This high-concept comedy centers on two unrepentant guy’s guys who, unable to find work, dress as women to get jobs as pharmaceutical reps. Not only do they pull it off, but they might just learn to be better men in the process.”
A reworking of Tom Hank's Bosom Buddies!!
Originally Posted by derek500:
“A reworking of Tom Hank's Bosom Buddies!!”
“A reworking of Tom Hank's Bosom Buddies!!”
yes ive seen some YouTube of that in the run up to Upfronts.
Its odd, once Man Up & Last Man Standing flop, I cant see ABC thinking the best thing to replace them with is Work It.
Unless there is alot more support for cross-dressing on US TV than I realised, and TBH ive always thought we Brits had the crossdressing comedy thing down in various panto.
Typing that, im surprised there isnt more cross dressing on UK TV.
However ive gotten distracted, and I should move back to what I was talking about at the start of this message.
Say what you like about Bossom Buddies, it was Tom Hanks first gig, few shows can make that kind of claim.
Coming soon to CBS: Big Mommas House: The Series
& to NBC "LOLA", LA based cop show, about a unit of cross dressing poilice officers, who cross dress to solve crime, starimg Katherine Moennig as "Martin" and Willam Belli as "Jessica"
Originally Posted by derek500:
“What are the demos for Glee?”
“What are the demos for Glee?”
For last night's broadcast:
Total People 1,529,000
ABC1 Adults 800,000
ABC1 Women 520,000
Adults 16-34 713,000
Women 16-34 497,000
All Adults 1,275,000
Source: C4 Sales.
Channel 5 issued their first Inside 5 survey today. It was focussed entirely on presenting talent, asking for opinions on various people and what kind of shows you would like to see them present. I was surprised to see ITV1 personality Paddy McGuiness in the frame, have ITV not got him on a golden handcuffs yet?
Other names they wanted opinions on included the obvious candidates for Big Brother - Emma Willis, Caroline Flack and Brian Dowling - some other big names from the world of entertainment including Cat Deeley and Johnny Vegas, and a few news/current affairs people in Andrew Castle and Kaye Adams who have both been covering for Matthew Wright on The Wright Stuff recently.
Other names they wanted opinions on included the obvious candidates for Big Brother - Emma Willis, Caroline Flack and Brian Dowling - some other big names from the world of entertainment including Cat Deeley and Johnny Vegas, and a few news/current affairs people in Andrew Castle and Kaye Adams who have both been covering for Matthew Wright on The Wright Stuff recently.
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Monday 16th May 2011
BBC1
06:00 - Breakfast: 1.6m (36.3%)
18:00 - BBC News at Six: 4.4m (25.5%)
18:30 - Regional News and Weather: 5.6m (29.6%)
19:00 - The One Show: 4.2m (20.7%)
19:30 - Saints and Scroungers: 3.6m (16.2%)
20:00 - EastEnders: 8.8m (38.1%)
20:30 - Panorama: 2.7m (11.5%)
21:00 - The Street That Cut Everything: 3.0m (12.7%)
22:00 - BBC News at Ten: 4.9m (24.7%)
22:35 - The Street That Cut Everything: 3.1m (21.2%)
23:10 - The Graham Norton Show: 1.3m (14.0%)
BBC2
18:00 - Eggheads: 1.9m (10.9%)
18:30 - Great British Menu: 2.2m (11.6%)
19:00 - The Story of Ireland: 1.3m (6.3%)
20:00 - Business Nightmares with Evan Davis: 1.8m (7.5%)
21:00 - Children's Craniofacial Surgery: 1.5m (6.3%)
22:00 - Never Mind the Buzzcocks: 1.2m (5.9%)
22:30 - Newsnight: 0.8m (5.5%)
ITV (inc ITV+1)
06:00 - Daybreak: 0.8m (18.4%)
08:30 - Lorraine: 1.0m (19.2%)
18:30 - ITV News & Weather: 3.6m (18.8%)
19:00 - Emmerdale: 7.2m (35.1%)
19:30 - Coronation Street: 8.8m (39.9%)
20:00 - The Dales: 4.0m (17.0%)
20:30 - Coronation Street: 8.5m (35.6%)
21:00 - Strangeways: 5.6m (22.0%)
22:00 - ITV News at Ten & Weather: 2.7m (13.6%)
22:35 - FILM: A Perfect Murder: 0.9m (9.2%)
C4 (inc C4+1)
18:30 - Hollyoaks: 1.2m (5.8%)
19:00 - Channel 4 News: 0.6m (2.8%)
20:00 - Dispatches: 0.9m (3.5%)
21:00 - Gordon's Great Escape: 1.4m (4.6%)
22:00 - FILM: The Sixth Sense: 0.9m (5.8%)
C5
17:00 - 5 News at 5: 0.7m (5.6%)
17:30 - Neighbours: 1.2m (8.2%)
18:00 - Home and Away: 0.8m (4.6%)
18:30 - OK! TV: 0.3m (1.7%)
19:00 - 5 News at 7: 0.2m (1.2%)
19:30 - How Do They Do It?: 0.6m (2.8%)
20:00 - The Gadget Show: 0.9m (4.0%)
21:00 - The Hotel Inspector: 1.7m (7.1%)
All include HD.”
“Monday 16th May 2011
BBC1
06:00 - Breakfast: 1.6m (36.3%)
18:00 - BBC News at Six: 4.4m (25.5%)
18:30 - Regional News and Weather: 5.6m (29.6%)
19:00 - The One Show: 4.2m (20.7%)
19:30 - Saints and Scroungers: 3.6m (16.2%)
20:00 - EastEnders: 8.8m (38.1%)
20:30 - Panorama: 2.7m (11.5%)
21:00 - The Street That Cut Everything: 3.0m (12.7%)
22:00 - BBC News at Ten: 4.9m (24.7%)
22:35 - The Street That Cut Everything: 3.1m (21.2%)
23:10 - The Graham Norton Show: 1.3m (14.0%)
BBC2
18:00 - Eggheads: 1.9m (10.9%)
18:30 - Great British Menu: 2.2m (11.6%)
19:00 - The Story of Ireland: 1.3m (6.3%)
20:00 - Business Nightmares with Evan Davis: 1.8m (7.5%)
21:00 - Children's Craniofacial Surgery: 1.5m (6.3%)
22:00 - Never Mind the Buzzcocks: 1.2m (5.9%)
22:30 - Newsnight: 0.8m (5.5%)
ITV (inc ITV+1)
06:00 - Daybreak: 0.8m (18.4%)
08:30 - Lorraine: 1.0m (19.2%)
18:30 - ITV News & Weather: 3.6m (18.8%)
19:00 - Emmerdale: 7.2m (35.1%)
19:30 - Coronation Street: 8.8m (39.9%)
20:00 - The Dales: 4.0m (17.0%)
20:30 - Coronation Street: 8.5m (35.6%)
21:00 - Strangeways: 5.6m (22.0%)
22:00 - ITV News at Ten & Weather: 2.7m (13.6%)
22:35 - FILM: A Perfect Murder: 0.9m (9.2%)
C4 (inc C4+1)
18:30 - Hollyoaks: 1.2m (5.8%)
19:00 - Channel 4 News: 0.6m (2.8%)
20:00 - Dispatches: 0.9m (3.5%)
21:00 - Gordon's Great Escape: 1.4m (4.6%)
22:00 - FILM: The Sixth Sense: 0.9m (5.8%)
C5
17:00 - 5 News at 5: 0.7m (5.6%)
17:30 - Neighbours: 1.2m (8.2%)
18:00 - Home and Away: 0.8m (4.6%)
18:30 - OK! TV: 0.3m (1.7%)
19:00 - 5 News at 7: 0.2m (1.2%)
19:30 - How Do They Do It?: 0.6m (2.8%)
20:00 - The Gadget Show: 0.9m (4.0%)
21:00 - The Hotel Inspector: 1.7m (7.1%)
All include HD.”
So EastEnders and BGT go head-head again
I think EastEnders will fair better this time around as the storylines last year (Teen week) was pretty bad and looking at the spoilers for that week it's actually quite a strong week.
It will be the first time EastEnders will fall below 7million this year.
The soaps did well last night and EastEnders and Corrie are neck and neck again
Enjoyed Strangeways and i caught the street that cut everything at 10:35 and thought that was quite interesting
Is the Graham Norton show usually that low on a Monday?
(I know it's a reapeat but it had Lady Gaga on who i keep hearing is a 'superstar')
Originally Posted by dan2008:
“So EastEnders and BGT go head-head again
I think EastEnders will fair better this time around as the storylines last year (Teen week) was pretty bad and looking at the spoilers for that week it's actually quite a strong week.
It will be the first time EastEnders will fall below 7million this year.
The soaps did well last night and EastEnders and Corrie are neck and neck again
Enjoyed Strangeways and i caught the street that cut everything at 10:35 and thought that was quite interesting
Is the Graham Norton show usually that low on a Monday?
(I know it's a reapeat but it had Lady Gaga on who i keep hearing is a 'superstar')”
“So EastEnders and BGT go head-head again
I think EastEnders will fair better this time around as the storylines last year (Teen week) was pretty bad and looking at the spoilers for that week it's actually quite a strong week.
It will be the first time EastEnders will fall below 7million this year.
The soaps did well last night and EastEnders and Corrie are neck and neck again
Enjoyed Strangeways and i caught the street that cut everything at 10:35 and thought that was quite interesting
Is the Graham Norton show usually that low on a Monday?
(I know it's a reapeat but it had Lady Gaga on who i keep hearing is a 'superstar')”
I wonder if we'll get an hour-long episode of EastEnders one night that week, as we still haven't made up for the one missed for Comic Relief. (Sorry, Brekkie!
)There was one on the Monday last year, but the trouble with that was Talent having the head start.
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“Yes but other than as a trophy acquisition it has no value to ITV. The ad revenue is limited, the costs are reasonably high for the "big 5" hence why Italy dumped it for a decade.”
“Yes but other than as a trophy acquisition it has no value to ITV. The ad revenue is limited, the costs are reasonably high for the "big 5" hence why Italy dumped it for a decade.”
It is more if they could make money out of a higher profile selection process than the contest itself, but I think really the only way ITV will become interested in Eurovision is if Simon Cowell becomes interested in Eurovision.
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“The Voice on the BBC?
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...n-the-BBC.html”
“The Voice on the BBC?
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...n-the-BBC.html”
It was probably the only shot of the format coming to the UK, but it is screwed already as the BBC just never do imported formats justice, always making a few unnecessary tweaks which completely rips out what appeals about the original to make it appeal to middle England BBC1 viewers.
Not surprised Dannii is linked to it, though The Voice usually has current music stars as judges.
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Film4's Australia season got off to a strong start last night with 504,000 watching 2008 thriller The Square. Not bad at all and compares favourably with what the big Hollywood blockbusters get on the channel. Their share also went up from 1% last Monday to 1.4% this Monday.
Great to see Film4 showcasting Australian films. My only gripe is the late slots for some of them but this is what PVRs were made for.”
“Film4's Australia season got off to a strong start last night with 504,000 watching 2008 thriller The Square. Not bad at all and compares favourably with what the big Hollywood blockbusters get on the channel. Their share also went up from 1% last Monday to 1.4% this Monday.
Great to see Film4 showcasting Australian films. My only gripe is the late slots for some of them but this is what PVRs were made for.”
Didn't even know about it - saw their previous Film4 promos virtually everytime I watched C4/E4, but have seen nothing on this. And yes, a shame they put such films late and replay the same films as usual at 9pm.
Indeed as I've said before I think channels in general should begin looking downunder for output too - there are a few gems ready for a UK audience desperate to find out what ex Home and Away and Neighbours stars are up too.
Originally Posted by fodg09:
“MG reporting that Channel 4 believe they have lost the 'bidding war' for Glee, with the show supposedly heading to Sky.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...glee-channel-4
Although they do seem to use the Daily Star as a source, which probably isn't wise.
Edit: Broadcast reporting that C4 have pulled out of the bidding.”
“MG reporting that Channel 4 believe they have lost the 'bidding war' for Glee, with the show supposedly heading to Sky.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...glee-channel-4
Although they do seem to use the Daily Star as a source, which probably isn't wise.
Edit: Broadcast reporting that C4 have pulled out of the bidding.”
Inevitable unfortunately. Although I do think it would have been worth C4 bidding high for, ultimately the gloss is already coming off Glee and even in two seasons it's become very repetititve, so a year or two down the line they'll probably be glad they're rid.
I just hope when they talk about reinvesting into homegrown talent they mean quality drama like Skins and Misfits, not fake crap like Made in Chelsea.
Also very dubious to see Murdoch paying Murdoch for such shows.
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“I really am not one bit surprised about Glee, and I should have sympathy for C4 and its viewers, and I have some for the viewers but not for C4, it knows thatr a shark like predator exists in the market (Sky incase anyone hadnt guessed) who acts in this fashion, channels will have to do what FX does, and take exculsive rights to shows.”
“I really am not one bit surprised about Glee, and I should have sympathy for C4 and its viewers, and I have some for the viewers but not for C4, it knows thatr a shark like predator exists in the market (Sky incase anyone hadnt guessed) who acts in this fashion, channels will have to do what FX does, and take exculsive rights to shows.”
It's easily said, but FX usually deal with cable channels - unfortunately for the networks there seems to be a standard two year contract and for whatever reasons protections beyond that are not seen as necessary, though I suspect there may be a clause that should there be a higher bid, C4 would be invited to match it.
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Channel 5 issued their first Inside 5 survey today. It was focussed entirely on presenting talent”
“Channel 5 issued their first Inside 5 survey today. It was focussed entirely on presenting talent”
I didn't realise they had any!
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“Typing that, im surprised there isnt more cross dressing on UK TV.”
“Typing that, im surprised there isnt more cross dressing on UK TV.”
As part of the narrative we've recently had Tim Healy in Benidorm and Alan Cummings in The Runaway.
As for cross dressing for characterisations, there's been Come Fly With Me and Psychoville.
Quote:
“Say what you like about Bossom Buddies, it was Tom Hanks first gig, few shows can make that kind of claim.”
“Say what you like about Bossom Buddies, it was Tom Hanks first gig, few shows can make that kind of claim.”
Very true, only one show can make that claim!! George Clooney's first break was as a regular on Roseanne.
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