Thanks for that fmradiotuner1, I will look into it. I currently PVR programmes so I don't have to bother remembering when they are on (just look them up on the EPG as the BBC seems to be set to random) and then decant them to minidisc when I get the chance. But you will only be able to get 2 half hour shows on a CD compaired to a minidisc which will do 5 in mono, 5 in stereo LP2 and more in LP4. The quality of these long play modes is good enough for the quality of the digital broadcasts. I used to use the music sync function and the timer mode on an old on-digital box to record programmes when I was out and as such built up a large number of disks.