I replied to something in the last thread and got shut down
copied and pasted it though......
Originally Posted by kbabes2:
“Basically, I don't know how many times John called her the c word....It wasn't on. Nor was some of the things Josie said. All she had to do was say, 'I'm sorry I've been a bitch John, I don't mean to be', and there we go. But we have to remember they are REAL people, both VERY different and they were thrust together in the BB house. Trying to re-capture what they had in there on the outside world ISN'T going to be the same.
If it's true that Josie raised her fists to John, then that's not on either. But they are only human. I think it's clear to see they love each other, fiercly but when couples argue like that, things are said in the heat of the moment, tempers flared and yes, punches or objects might be thrown. Personally, I don't see a reunion yet, they need time AWAY from the cameras, as I have said before, and no involvement from others...Maybe they won't be able to work it out, maybe they'll only be friends. And yes, it's a shame but two people have to want the same thing to be in a relationship.”
I want to know why it's always up to her to say sorry. She obviously had an issue with him calling her ugly. He could just have easily have said sorry to her rather than bringing up an old argument where he felt she was wrong too.
I didn't have an issue with John's language during the argument. Like I've said before it just doesn't bother me or shock me really what I didn't like was the way he was so quick to anger. Josie was speaking calmly and telling him what she found unacceptable and he was screaming and clapping sarcastically. From their arguments in the house I always felt Josie wasn't communicating well and I could understand why John would get frustrated but I felt in this instance she plainly stated why she was upset and why he should apologise and because he thinks she's wrong and he's right he refused point blank. He also mentions that he wouldn't respond to her 'I love you' for the same reason.
It was not nice seeing them both close to tears/crying and not being comforted by each other.
I agree with what you said about BB. It's sad that they were continually trying to go back. What worked in there was very obviously not going to work outside. They should have looked more to the future instead of always looking back at what they were.
I'm not sure if they do love each other anymore. I know a few would argue otherwise but the jury's out with me. I don't want to ruin the vibe going on in the thread so I'll keep those concerns to myself for now.