Are there any behind the scenes rules for the Apprentices that the public are not privy too? OH and I were chatting about this. It just seems completely odd that there were 4 items and 4 people and they didn't all go individually to get an item each (e.g. using public transport). They never negotiate or ask prices over the phone. Why not? Surely it's more sensible to phone up several suppliers to find out prices then go to the cheapest one?
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Must be, it seemed they couldnt use the internt to find out what the items were. If they did, I think Gavins team might of won.
Why not just use google to find out what the items are? If it's a rule, why isn't it ever mentioned? I'm sure actual businesses use the internet in this day and age.
The teams have never been able to subdivide more than once per team - I assume there are only 4 camera crews so any more subdivisions and some of the apprentices could end up off camera.
The no-internet rule has been pretty consistant - though a savvy contender could ask a phone contact to look them up something I suppose.
There have been others e.g. in series 3 Gerri was sacked for not finding locations for the face painting. She revealed later that she had found locations, but none of them would allow the cameras in.
The no-internet rule has been pretty consistant - though a savvy contender could ask a phone contact to look them up something I suppose.
There have been others e.g. in series 3 Gerri was sacked for not finding locations for the face painting. She revealed later that she had found locations, but none of them would allow the cameras in.
Originally Posted by Shrike:
“The no-internet rule has been pretty consistant - though a savvy contender could ask a phone contact to look them up something I suppose.”
“The no-internet rule has been pretty consistant - though a savvy contender could ask a phone contact to look them up something I suppose.”
I don't remember them ever saying no internet.
It'd seem a stupid rule if you ask me. As if a modern business wouldn't use it.
i doubt they're allowed to split up because the camera's and Nick/Karen can only be in one place at a time. I suppose all these restrictions also test how well they are able to think outside the box.
Originally Posted by Ænima:
“I don't remember them ever saying no internet.
It'd seem a stupid rule if you ask me. As if a modern business wouldn't use it.”
“I don't remember them ever saying no internet.
It'd seem a stupid rule if you ask me. As if a modern business wouldn't use it.”
Its never been said but its pretty obvious that is a rule, else why over 7 series has no team ever used it?
It is unrealistic, but it is a competition, so it makes sense in that the candidates will find in more of a challenge.
A good example might be Ghazal - she had tracked down an importer of Nigella seeds, but failed to ask them who they sold to - and so didn't source them. If she had been allowed internet then there would have been no problem finding shops...
Originally Posted by Shrike:
“Its never been said but its pretty obvious that is a rule, else why over 7 series has no team ever used it?
It is unrealistic, but it is a competition, so it makes sense in that the candidates will find in more of a challenge.
A good example might be Ghazal - she had tracked down an importer of Nigella seeds, but failed to ask them who they sold to - and so didn't source them. If she had been allowed internet then there would have been no problem finding shops...”
“Its never been said but its pretty obvious that is a rule, else why over 7 series has no team ever used it?
It is unrealistic, but it is a competition, so it makes sense in that the candidates will find in more of a challenge.
A good example might be Ghazal - she had tracked down an importer of Nigella seeds, but failed to ask them who they sold to - and so didn't source them. If she had been allowed internet then there would have been no problem finding shops...”
This whole show is odd if you ask me. Why have a bunch of rules and never explain them?
And tonights task- does anyone believe that huge hotel needed their help or was going to use any of the things they bought?
And brightest business minds? More like the usual collection of freaks
Originally Posted by Ænima:
“This whole show is odd if you ask me. Why have a bunch of rules and never explain them?
And tonights task- does anyone believe that huge hotel needed their help or was going to use any of the things they bought?
And brightest business minds? More like the usual collection of freaks”
“This whole show is odd if you ask me. Why have a bunch of rules and never explain them?
And tonights task- does anyone believe that huge hotel needed their help or was going to use any of the things they bought?
And brightest business minds? More like the usual collection of freaks
”
Of course the hotel didn't need them. It's a game!
The rules that we can easily deduce from watching are:
Each team can have one sub team only. This means everyone can be filmed by 2 camera crews.
No internet/Google. Forces people to use their own initiative and explains why they struggled to figure out what items were (it would be done in 10 secs if internet was allowed)
No price discussion until face to face with the seller. Designed to force instant negotiation, thinking on feet.
I think that not only are they only allowed two sub teams but they have to split into two sub teams.
I might be wrong but I can't ever remember an instance where they have all stayed together for an entire task. (There may have been the odd highly specialised task but I cannot recall one.)
I might be wrong but I can't ever remember an instance where they have all stayed together for an entire task. (There may have been the odd highly specialised task but I cannot recall one.)
For one of the US Apprentice series a contestant did a blog published the day after the show aired. He gave away quite a few interesting tid-bits about the workings of the show.
One of the things he said was that they get a long list of rules at the start of each task stating what they can and can't do, things they must include. I get the feeling on the first task one of the rules was they must do a hot food option and a fresh fruit option.
Each team has 2 camera crews and 2 producers with them, so they can only split into 2 teams. In that team there has to be 2 people, even if it only needs 1 person to do what they need to do. One person wouldnt be allowed to nip up the road to make some photocopies on his own, for example.
He gave away a host of other things you just don't think about such as getting out of the car. They get out of the car each time and are filmed from inside, the crew get out and the candidates get back in and shut the door so they can then be filmed again getting out from the out side.
Any premisis they want to enter, the producer has to go in first to ask permission from the owner.
The 2 biggest surprises were that the show is filmed on a 3 day rota, not a week like I assumed. Day 1 they get the task and plan things out. Day 2 they carry out the task and go to the boardroom in the evening. Day 3 the winners have their reward and the losers have extensive interviews to camera which we see throughout the program. The fired candidate comes back for their stuff whilst everyone is out. The next day they start all over again. Now that was on the US show, I dunno if that's the case here, but I don't see why not. It doesn't make much sense to have them work 2 days and then have 5 days off when you are employing 4 camera crews and everything that goes with it.
The other surprise was that the loosing candidates don't go home, they go to a hotel where they all stay until filming of the series is finished. He did give a reasoning behind that but I can't recall what it was.
One of the things he said was that they get a long list of rules at the start of each task stating what they can and can't do, things they must include. I get the feeling on the first task one of the rules was they must do a hot food option and a fresh fruit option.
Each team has 2 camera crews and 2 producers with them, so they can only split into 2 teams. In that team there has to be 2 people, even if it only needs 1 person to do what they need to do. One person wouldnt be allowed to nip up the road to make some photocopies on his own, for example.
He gave away a host of other things you just don't think about such as getting out of the car. They get out of the car each time and are filmed from inside, the crew get out and the candidates get back in and shut the door so they can then be filmed again getting out from the out side.
Any premisis they want to enter, the producer has to go in first to ask permission from the owner.
The 2 biggest surprises were that the show is filmed on a 3 day rota, not a week like I assumed. Day 1 they get the task and plan things out. Day 2 they carry out the task and go to the boardroom in the evening. Day 3 the winners have their reward and the losers have extensive interviews to camera which we see throughout the program. The fired candidate comes back for their stuff whilst everyone is out. The next day they start all over again. Now that was on the US show, I dunno if that's the case here, but I don't see why not. It doesn't make much sense to have them work 2 days and then have 5 days off when you are employing 4 camera crews and everything that goes with it.
The other surprise was that the loosing candidates don't go home, they go to a hotel where they all stay until filming of the series is finished. He did give a reasoning behind that but I can't recall what it was.
I mean its ridiculous having 4 people out buying an item when 2 or even 1 would be sufficient . No business would allow such a wasteful use of manpower.
Plus I know from experience the best and quickest way to get around London is by Tube.
Plus I know from experience the best and quickest way to get around London is by Tube.
Originally Posted by Paace:
“Plus I know from experience the best and quickest way to get around London is by Tube.”
“Plus I know from experience the best and quickest way to get around London is by Tube.”
Not if you have to take a camera crew with you and then carry 500 loo rolls back it isn't.
Originally Posted by SXTony:
“The 2 biggest surprises were that the show is filmed on a 3 day rota, not a week like I assumed. Day 1 they get the task and plan things out. Day 2 they carry out the task and go to the boardroom in the evening. Day 3 the winners have their reward and the losers have extensive interviews to camera which we see throughout the program. The fired candidate comes back for their stuff whilst everyone is out. The next day they start all over again. Now that was on the US show, I dunno if that's the case here, but I don't see why not. It doesn't make much sense to have them work 2 days and then have 5 days off when you are employing 4 camera crews and everything that goes with it.”
“The 2 biggest surprises were that the show is filmed on a 3 day rota, not a week like I assumed. Day 1 they get the task and plan things out. Day 2 they carry out the task and go to the boardroom in the evening. Day 3 the winners have their reward and the losers have extensive interviews to camera which we see throughout the program. The fired candidate comes back for their stuff whilst everyone is out. The next day they start all over again. Now that was on the US show, I dunno if that's the case here, but I don't see why not. It doesn't make much sense to have them work 2 days and then have 5 days off when you are employing 4 camera crews and everything that goes with it.”
I had heard that before. I think about the Irish Apprentice but not sure. They all follow roughly the same format. The do two tasks back to back and then get sunday off but aren't allowed to leave the house.
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“The other surprise was that the loosing candidates don't go home, they go to a hotel where they all stay until filming of the series is finished. He did give a reasoning behind that but I can't recall what it was.”
“The other surprise was that the loosing candidates don't go home, they go to a hotel where they all stay until filming of the series is finished. He did give a reasoning behind that but I can't recall what it was.”
Is that to stop them revealing the order of who went? I know they get to make one phone call on Sunday but aren't allowed to discuss the show. They're not even allowed their own phones. On the Irish one it showed the producers going through their belongings on the first day to make sure nothing has been smuggles in.
I love watching the show and imagine that on all the tasks, I'd be the best and get everything right and not make any stupid mistakes
but in reality there is no way I'd go on it.
That the tasks are pretty much back-to-back has been discussed on this forum for a few years now - ex contestants have revealed it in various blogs & interviews.
I've never understood why the pretence that it takes 12 weeks have gone on for so long, as it makes the whole process seem much easier than it really is. Take this years' "week 1" - presented as a tough 1 day task with boardroom to follow then the rest of the week off.
Yet the show itself often remarks on how tired the candidates are towards the end - a lot of viewers must think
bluddy lightweights!! if they take the time line at face value.
I've never understood why the pretence that it takes 12 weeks have gone on for so long, as it makes the whole process seem much easier than it really is. Take this years' "week 1" - presented as a tough 1 day task with boardroom to follow then the rest of the week off.
Yet the show itself often remarks on how tired the candidates are towards the end - a lot of viewers must think
bluddy lightweights!! if they take the time line at face value.
From The Apprentice Forum on the Internet Forum
Why on earth did the teams choose option X as the central theme for their task? And why didn’t they use the Internet to look up other options or other potential contacts?
Every task has a set of rules. Often, those rules include a list of suggested/permitted options for a central theme … and equally often, the fact that such a list exists is omitted from the broadcast programme, making it look as if the idea came from the candidates alone. For example, in series 2 episode 2 the task was to design calendars, and 4-6 themes were suggested. The losing team was castigated for choosing a theme (cats) that had no connection with the client (Great Ormond Street children’s hospital), but only 1 option on the list (babies) did have an obvious connection.
The rules of the tasks almost always prevent the candidates from using the Internet. This may be because filming people using the Internet is pretty boring; it may be to add an extra challenge to the task; it may be because of an incident in Series 1 when the teams were allowed to use the Internet, but one team’s Internet connection broke down; it may be because at least one candidate tried to contact his old friends via the Internet to drum up business for a particular task (unsuccessfully); or it may be for some other reason.
Why on earth did the teams choose option X as the central theme for their task? And why didn’t they use the Internet to look up other options or other potential contacts?
Every task has a set of rules. Often, those rules include a list of suggested/permitted options for a central theme … and equally often, the fact that such a list exists is omitted from the broadcast programme, making it look as if the idea came from the candidates alone. For example, in series 2 episode 2 the task was to design calendars, and 4-6 themes were suggested. The losing team was castigated for choosing a theme (cats) that had no connection with the client (Great Ormond Street children’s hospital), but only 1 option on the list (babies) did have an obvious connection.
The rules of the tasks almost always prevent the candidates from using the Internet. This may be because filming people using the Internet is pretty boring; it may be to add an extra challenge to the task; it may be because of an incident in Series 1 when the teams were allowed to use the Internet, but one team’s Internet connection broke down; it may be because at least one candidate tried to contact his old friends via the Internet to drum up business for a particular task (unsuccessfully); or it may be for some other reason.
http://www.holymoly.com/celebrity-ne...pprentice56332
In this interview with Gavin, they asked why they weren't allowed the internet and yeah, it's banned. I really find that quite a unfair rule in such a modern age.
In this interview with Gavin, they asked why they weren't allowed the internet and yeah, it's banned. I really find that quite a unfair rule in such a modern age.
