[SillyBillyGoat]

I love both, for totally different reasons.

[rhumble]

BB USA for me ,,,,im getting bored with our format

[SillyBillyGoat]

I have to say, I've revised my opinion. While I do still enjoy BBUK, I'm starting to prefer BBUS. It's hardly BB though, only in name.

That said, it's still a superior entertainment show to ours. And I'm tired of the constant Z-List culture associated with ours now.

[ohboy]

as a bb u.s. person who watched bbuk for the first time this year, i think your bb is hardly bb.

the outside influence, tampering with nominations, revealing diary room sessions (!!!), new HMs added into the game with outside knowledge -- all of that is hardly big brother. from what i've gathered, you take it as normal that a HM will walk and others may be added. that never happens in the u.s.

oh, and, yeah -- we have 24/7 live f'ing feeds.

so i think the u.s. is much closer to the big brother concept in terms of the bb and HMs' experience. the winner is decided differently, but the concept of watching what happens when HMs are isolated from the outside, that to me is the most important thing, and bbuk hasn't preserved that core part of the concept.

i also prefer the game and competition of bb u.s. vs. the popularity contest of bbuk, but i did enjoy both the regular season and cbb, so it's not like i think it's horrible. i just prefer the game, which is why i was an aaron fan.

[trevor tiger]

Originally Posted by ohboy

as a bb u.s. person who watched bbuk for the first time this year, i think your bb is hardly bb.

the outside influence, tampering with nominations, revealing diary room sessions (!!!), new HMs added into the game with outside knowledge -- all of that is hardly big brother. from what i've gathered, you take it as normal that a HM will walk and others may be added. that never happens in the u.s.

oh, and, yeah -- we have 24/7 live f'ing feeds.

so i think the u.s. is much closer to the big brother concept in terms of the bb and HMs' experience. the winner is decided differently, but the concept of watching what happens when HMs are isolated from the outside, that to me is the most important thing, and bbuk hasn't preserved that core part of the concept.

i also prefer the game and competition of bb u.s. vs. the popularity contest of bbuk, but i did enjoy both the regular season and cbb, so it's not like i think it's horrible. i just prefer the game, which is why i was an aaron fan.

I understand what you're saying but US BB is constantly being interfered with only by the producers who seem to regularly manipulate events. And though the audience actually have live feed and get to see how they cope while properly isolated the constant game playing is actually a very false enviroment to watch. Sometimes it is very tiring and I miss some of the more fun elements of the UK BB house.

However, I do like that the house mates decide the winner and the evictess. That is so much more enjoyable than mass voting from a public who get it wrong so much imo.

[staceyxxx23]

Originally Posted by KillerJoe

You should check out last years and the year before.. Rachel would surely change your opinion! The selection of HMs in the US is so good, the dramas are massive and you see some nasty fights break out!

I saw the year that Rachel won, I did like her actually. I still don't really like the idea that they're playing a game though.

[ohboy]

Originally Posted by trevor tiger

I understand what you're saying but US BB is constantly being interfered with only by the producers who seem to regularly manipulate events. And though the audience actually have live feed and get to see how they cope while properly isolated the constant game playing is actually a very false enviroment to watch. Sometimes it is very tiring and I miss some of the more fun elements of the UK BB house.

However, I do like that the house mates decide the winner and the evictess. That is so much more enjoyable than mass voting from a public who get it wrong so much imo.

oh, bb definitely manipulates the housemates. it's actually very "big brother" of them to do so, too.

the housemates have to decide whether they want to play with or against bb. in the last two seasons, both of the winners were acutely aware of bb's manipulation, but for very different reasons.

rachel knew that bb would purposefully manipulate the game because she went through it before. but in the previous season, hayden, who was recruited to the show by randomly meeting a casting person on an airplane and hadn't watched it before, figured out bb's manipulations almost immediately, and then went on to play a perfect game, outplaying bb. i don't like hayden as a person, but he played an amazing game and it was great to watch.

i think bb in the u.k. manipulates its HMs also. last season, i saw bb encouraging/manufacturing showmances (alex and tom?!), encouraging jay to make peace with aaron, making jemma paranoid about aaron, etc.

i think bb manipulates the u.k. audience more than the bb u.s. does, and the campaigns they run for and against HMs on BOTS are outrageous.

about bb u.s. being a "false environment," i don't see what goes on in bbuk as being real at all, because you can absolutely see people playing to the audience. i think after a decade of bb, the "social experiment" aspect isn't really possible anymore. cameras and reality shows and the bb concept are no longer new. everyone in the u.k. knows how to please the audience, how to play to the cameras. and they all do it, no matter what they say.

[starry]

I agree with quite a lot of that and even though I've only seen the last series of the US show I was about to say they do have Pandora's Box, they do decide what type of competitions to have (which may favour some HMs), they decide who is allowed to take part in them etc.

However if we still had live stream in the British version I think you would see more natural behaviour as people can't really act 24/7.