I'm sure there is a politics forum for all this PC, right on, stuff.

Melissa last year was the best. Calling them horrible men for ganging up on her although she was utterly awful in the task and blanking them.

I thought it was mean spirited of Ellie and Natasha (as Natasha is a recruitment consultant I am naturally bound to loathe her) to do that to Felicity because it is a game show and they know how it works. It is business, nothing is personal. However Ellie gets a free pass from me for her sexy voice, chunky physique and big boobs.

Actually she called them ''you horrible people'', not horrible men. Before saying they would be karmically retributed.

Anyway, I think the original poster was saying that the WAY they chose to freeze her out was more of a girl thing than a guy thing, Personally, I agree. Don't think that's the same as saying that ALL us women do it or that the guys are somehow saintlier? Being vile and mean-spirited in Apprenticeland not really gender specific imo. I mean - just look at Vincent - or that Alex a few weeks ago. Shudder.

I saw him saying that as him deviously firing a subconscious warning to all the others, along the lines of "any of you that might take me into the boardroom with you in future tasks, don't"

I appreciate that correction and apologise for not quite remembering accurately something I have seen once many months ago.

Talking of Karmic retribution (and I know it is not for this forum but) Cheryl cole - LOL.

I thought Felicity was the right person to go - she had her attention drawn time and time again to the fact that the treatment side was doing nothing, yet for hours she did nothing about it.

However, I agree she had done nothing to deserve such rudeness from Ellie and Natasha. I'm afraid that the women this year, apart from Felicity and Susan, don't seem a very pleasant bunch.

Tom read the information and was put firmly back in his box by Felicity, "Yes thank you now put it down and step away from the paper"

Tom Looks like a contender until he is put up for PM.

Eh? I said it 'cos your post implied there was some kind of PC anti-men thing going on with that and was like . nah, she was like it to everyone. That's all.

I like Susan, actually, though she's kind of naive. Is she the Apprentice's smiliest candidate ever?

She's so full of enthusiasm. I think that may help her with Lord Sugar, who might well be forgiving of mistakes from such a young contestant if he likes her attitude.

The women are the ones with longer hair and a bit of lipstick I think

I've always wondered if the suitcases they drag back to the boardroom actually have anything in them. Now I'm convinced they don't.

In the last episode, one of the girls in the group told to go back to the house picked up her (supposedly full) suitcase with such ease that it must prove once and for all that they are just empty props.

I believe the suitcases are supposed to have what they would need for an overnight stay in a hotel. Then the next day, the surviving candidates go off for another task and the fired candidate returns to the empty house to collect the rest of their stuff. Perhaps if the next day is a day off (usually Sundays) they have to wait 2 nights for the house to be empty.

Anyway, they surely have more stuff than will fit in their tiny suitcase, and how much they put in it will vary from person to person. If they want to show they are confident, they could leave it empty. You could probably get by with a toothbrush and change of underclothes; it doesn't matter if you wear the same outer clothes the next day because you won't be on camera and nobody cares about losers.

This would mean the opening shots of them arriving with just the overnight suitcase, would be staged, and there'd be a large suitcase with a month's worth of clothing somewhere out of shot.

Wasn't there someone who said they hadn't packed because they didn't think they would go?

In a previous year?

I think that was Paul Tulip in series 2. Deserved firing for that alone.

Stuart Baggs said it in the first show last year, I believe.

He deserved firing for that alone, too.