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'Waiting for Genhil to Get It On' - Gennie & Nikhil
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shazf
14-11-2012
Why can't Nikhil just sit Gennie down and they talk about baby Molly and how they are going to manage everything instead of Nikhil talking to his mother about Gennie. It will be the same as when Georgia was with them before.
Telly Tot
14-11-2012
Originally Posted by shazf:
“Why can't Nikhil just sit Gennie down and they talk about baby Molly and how they are going to manage everything instead of Nikhil talking to his mother about Gennie. It will be the same as when Georgia was with them before.”

Largely because they still aren't permitted to communicate, or learn how to communicate, or indeed grow as characters in any meaningful way. He's terrified of offending her and she still struggles to grasp that he loves her, doesn't see her as second rate goods and isn't constantly in attack mode. He's largely been a bit of a star, both with her and with Molly actually. He's a doting and fully engaged Dad to Molly and is clearly trying to demonstrate his love, both for her and for Gennie, all be it in a frequently messed up, somewhat eccentric, obsessive and uniquely Nikhil way.. He tried to get her half-wit mother, Brenda to approach her about getting out and about and participating in things which might give her the opportunity to interact with other young Mums.

Alas, Brenda was more interested in her dance class. Given that this is the same woman who took off to Morocco when her only child was in the later stages of her first pregnancy and needing support and couldn't spare a few seconds in her brief phone call from the British Embassy, to send her love to her daughter and new grandchild, it's not entirely surprising. I really hope that eventually the writers will realise that we're now at the point of diminishing returns with the constant misunderstandings, bickering, break ups and make ups. Personally, I agree with liziray that there is value in exploring how they'll balance their family life with their roles at the factory, the potential Jai/Rachel/Charity explosion, preparing for their wedding and indeed, interacting with other characters.

Soaps need characters like Nikhil and Gennie to tell the kind of human stories that many in the audience can actually relate to. Not many of us have experience of taking over a haulage firm, running a country estate, organising a music festival or having an affair with our niece's fiance, being blackmailed by our ex and then clobbering him with a brick! Quite a few of us have had babies and have coped with the impact that has on our lives, the joys and the traumas and the steep learning curve that is first time parenting. These two make a great team and are a brilliant canvas to tell this type of story. In repeating the same patterns with them over and over again, they're being badly short-changed.
Telly Tot
14-11-2012
Just when we were enjoying considerate, supportive Nikhil, for a bit of a change, we're back to thoughtless, random insult Nikhil. You've missed him, haven't you? Throw in a clumsy misunderstanding, an apology (from which neither of them will learn anything) and a sweet little make up scene and we're done for the week. Rinse and repeat...endlessly.
Kazz64
14-11-2012
Loved the way Georgia said, as Gennie walked away following his insult, that had he spoken to her like that she'd have boxed his ears.
shazf
14-11-2012
Originally Posted by Telly Tot:
“Largely because they still aren't permitted to communicate, or learn how to communicate, or indeed grow as characters in any meaningful way. He's terrified of offending her and she still struggles to grasp that he loves her, doesn't see her as second rate goods and isn't constantly in attack mode. He's largely been a bit of a star, both with her and with Molly actually. He's a doting and fully engaged Dad to Molly and is clearly trying to demonstrate his love, both for her and for Gennie, all be it in a frequently messed up, somewhat eccentric, obsessive and uniquely Nikhil way.. He tried to get her half-wit mother, Brenda to approach her about getting out and about and participating in things which might give her the opportunity to interact with other young Mums.

Alas, Brenda was more interested in her dance class. Given that this is the same woman who took off to Morocco when her only child was in the later stages of her first pregnancy and needing support and couldn't spare a few seconds in her brief phone call from the British Embassy, to send her love to her daughter and new grandchild, it's not entirely surprising. I really hope that eventually the writers will realise that we're now at the point of diminishing returns with the constant misunderstandings, bickering, break ups and make ups. Personally, I agree with liziray that there is value in exploring how they'll balance their family life with their roles at the factory, the potential Jai/Rachel/Charity explosion, preparing for their wedding and indeed, interacting with other characters.

Soaps need characters like Nikhil and Gennie to tell the kind of human stories that many in the audience can actually relate to. Not many of us have experience of taking over a haulage firm, running a country estate, organising a music festival or having an affair with our niece's fiance, being blackmailed by our ex and then clobbering him with a brick! Quite a few of us have had babies and have coped with the impact that has on our lives, the joys and the traumas and the steep learning curve that is first time parenting. These two make a great team and are a brilliant canvas to tell this type of story. In repeating the same patterns with them over and over again, they're being badly short-changed.”

Exactly this.
20Colmanct
14-11-2012
Originally Posted by Telly Tot:
“Just when we were enjoying considerate, supportive Nikhil, for a bit of a change, we're back to thoughtless, random insult Nikhil. You've missed him, haven't you? Throw in a clumsy misunderstanding, an apology (from which neither of them will learn anything) and a sweet little make up scene and we're done for the week. Rinse and repeat...endlessly.”

Yes, it's entirely predictable and getting tedious :yawn:

There's loads of scope for storylines for a young couple with a new baby, as others have already mentioned on this thread, e.g. Gennie going/not going back to work, them interacting with other mums/dads/babies (Rhona/Leo/Andy/Jack), or Brenda interfering (just some examples), but instead we just get more silly fallings out. I do wonder sometimes about the writing on ED...
liziray
15-11-2012
The writing especially of the Genhil stuff has had quite a few of us wondering for quite some time

The spoiler on ITV for tonights episode looks really funny, Well at least it put a badly needed smile back on Gennie's face
liziray
15-11-2012
Well it was nice to see a smile and a little grin back on Gennie's face but it didn't last too long did it,
At least they had a bit of adult conversation at the end, Think she got a few weeks worth off her chest, We'll see if he takes it on board, Yeah and pigs might fly.
shazf
15-11-2012
Originally Posted by liziray:
“Well it was nice to see a smile and a little grin back on Gennie's face but it didn't last too long did it,
At least they had a bit of adult conversation at the end, Think she got a few weeks worth off her chest, We'll see if he takes it on board, Yeah and pigs might fly.”

Wonder how will Nikhil behave from now on.
Telly Tot
16-11-2012
Originally Posted by liziray:
“Well it was nice to see a smile and a little grin back on Gennie's face but it didn't last too long did it,
At least they had a bit of adult conversation at the end, Think she got a few weeks worth off her chest, We'll see if he takes it on board, Yeah and pigs might fly.”

I'm intrigued...
Spoiler
It would seem that the Nikhil Sharma Communication Filter (total chaos and abject misery edition) translates, "You're over-protective and controlling...get a grip!" as "Quick Nikhil! Buy a camera and record every second of your daughter's day...you know...just in case someone outside the family circle breathes in her general direction, or she inhales a dust particle, or is held by someone not wearing a Hazmat suit." They did have an adult conversation tonight but while he appears doomed to forever hear something completely different to what she's actually saying, I fear we're heading for more endless repetition of the same "You never listen to me" quarrels. Ironically, Nikhil does listen. The problem is he never hears.
liziray
16-11-2012
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Originally Posted by Telly Tot:
“I'm intrigued...
Spoiler
It would seem that the Nikhil Sharma Communication Filter (total chaos and abject misery edition) translates, "You're over-protective and controlling...get a grip!" as "Quick Nikhil! Buy a camera and record every second of your daughter's day...you know...just in case someone outside the family circle breathes in her general direction, or she inhales a dust particle, or is held by someone not wearing a Hazmat suit." They did have an adult conversation tonight but while he appears doomed to forever hear something completely different to what she's actually saying, I fear we're heading for more endless repetition of the same "You never listen to me" quarrels. Ironically, Nikhil does listen. The problem is he never hears.
”

Just had a good chuckle reading that, What did i say about pigs The worrying thing is that next week Gennie appears to go along with it
wildyounghearts
16-11-2012
Originally Posted by liziray:
“:Just had a good chuckle reading that, What did i say about pigs The worrying thing is that next week Gennie appears to go along with it”

There's a pair of them in it
Telly Tot
16-11-2012
Nikhil's definitely in the grip of post-natal obsession.
Spoiler
I could definitely see a storyline which might see Gennie and Nikhil taking it in turns to go into the factory. Whether she might deputise for him in his absence, I'm not sure (although she's proved in the past that she can run the place with her eyes closed) but I love the idea of Gennie taking on a bigger role at the factory and turning out to be quite formidable. It would be hilarious if she proved more effective than Nikhil. She'd certainly be better at developing good employee relations.
liziray
16-11-2012
Originally Posted by Telly Tot:
“Nikhil's definitely in the grip of post-natal obsession.
Spoiler
I could definitely see a storyline which might see Gennie and Nikhil taking it in turns to go into the factory. Whether she might deputise for him in his absence, I'm not sure (although she's proved in the past that she can run the place with her eyes closed) but I love the idea of Gennie taking on a bigger role at the factory and turning out to be quite formidable. It would be hilarious if she proved more effective than Nikhil. She'd certainly be better at developing good employee relations.
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Yes i noticed Gennie's light hearted suggestion in tonights ep, Gave me a little more hope that the scenario i mentioned just might be a possiblity.
I needless to say do agree with what your saying.
jellybelly_26
17-11-2012
Originally Posted by Telly Tot:
“Nikhil's definitely in the grip of post-natal obsession.
Spoiler
I could definitely see a storyline which might see Gennie and Nikhil taking it in turns to go into the factory. Whether she might deputise for him in his absence, I'm not sure (although she's proved in the past that she can run the place with her eyes closed) but I love the idea of Gennie taking on a bigger role at the factory and turning out to be quite formidable. It would be hilarious if she proved more effective than Nikhil. She'd certainly be better at developing good employee relations.
”

I think you may be onto something....
Spoiler

6413 Tuesday 4 December 7.00pm – 7.30pm
• Chas is forced to reconsider her chances of walking free
• Rhona and Laurel confront Paddy and Marlon about their lies
• Gennie and Nikhil reach an unusual compromise for their work/life balance
20Colmanct
17-11-2012
Originally Posted by jellybelly_26:
“I think you may be onto something....
Spoiler

6413 Tuesday 4 December 7.00pm – 7.30pm
• Chas is forced to reconsider her chances of walking free
• Rhona and Laurel confront Paddy and Marlon about their lies
• Gennie and Nikhil reach an unusual compromise for their work/life balance
”

I think a...

Spoiler
...job-share would be great. Gennie seems perfectly capable of running the factory, and Nikhil is brilliant with Molly. Still hope we see lots of them together though
shazf
17-11-2012
Molly looked so cute last night when she was asleep.
Telly Tot
17-11-2012
Originally Posted by jellybelly_26:
“I think you may be onto something....
Spoiler

6413 Tuesday 4 December 7.00pm – 7.30pm
• Chas is forced to reconsider her chances of walking free
• Rhona and Laurel confront Paddy and Marlon about their lies
• Gennie and Nikhil reach an unusual compromise for their work/life balance
”

Aha, we may indeed be on to something.
Spoiler
It will be interesting to see what the spoiler actually means, given that we know it seldom plays out as initially thought. If they worked this as a team, it could be the perfect solution but if Gennie returns to deputise for Nikhil, rather than as the office PA, it presents a number of potential problems, not least of which would be the decision making process. Would she be permitted to make key decisions on his behalf in his absence? Would she be paid a PA's salary to essentially work as a part time Company Director? I'm not sure that would be logical, or would pan out and I can't see Jai being enthusiastic about it either. Perhaps if they're looking for potential conflict down the line, they'll take this route. It might be a more practical solution for him to work from home for part of the week, it's not like it's much of a commute in the event of an emergency and for Gennie to simply return to her old job on an initially part time basis.
shazf
17-11-2012
Originally Posted by Telly Tot:
“Aha, we may indeed be on to something.
Spoiler
It will be interesting to see what the spoiler actually means, given that we know it seldom plays out as initially thought. If they worked this as a team, it could be the perfect solution but if Gennie returns to deputise for Nikhil, rather than as the office PA, it presents a number of potential problems, not least of which would be the decision making process. Would she be permitted to make key decisions on his behalf in his absence? Would she be paid a PA's salary to essentially work as a part time Company Director? I'm not sure that would be logical, or would pan out and I can't see Jai being enthusiastic about it either. Perhaps if they're looking for potential conflict down the line, they'll take this route. It might be a more practical solution for him to work from home for part of the week, it's not like it's much of a commute in the event of an emergency and for Gennie to simply return to her old job on an initially part time basis.
”

Exactly.
Kazz64
18-11-2012
It will be interesting to see how this spoiler plays out. However, since Molly's arrival, Nikhil seems to have moved away from being a workaholic who was often at his desk by 7.00am! and judging by the office scenes last Thursday it looks as if Rishi is running the factory.
shazf
18-11-2012
Originally Posted by Kazz64:
“It will be interesting to see how this spoiler plays out. However, since Molly's arrival, Nikhil seems to have moved away from being a workaholic who was often at his desk by 7.00am! and judging by the office scenes last Thursday it looks as if Rishi is running the factory.”

I'd like to see Gennie being the boss at the factory.
liziray
18-11-2012
Originally Posted by shazf:
“I'd like to see Gennie being the boss at the factory.”

Don't think thats liable to happen while Jai is around but with whats brewing up for him and the consequences thereafter anything is possible,

If Gennie were to have an authoritative role in the running of the factory whether on a full or part time basis the staff would probably think they are going to be on easy street, But i'd bet they would be in for a shock cos though Gennie would definately be fair i think she wouldn't take any nonsense when it comes to business especially as she'll be Mrs Sharma in the not to distant future.
shazf
18-11-2012
Gennie and Nikhil could run the factory together when they become Mr and Mrs Sharma.
shazf
19-11-2012
It'll be funny watching Gennie trying to film Molly. I'd like to see Gennie, Nikhil and of course Molly watching the recording back as a family.
liziray
20-11-2012
Originally Posted by liziray:
“The worrying thing is that next week Gennie appears to go along with it”

Well it looks like Gennie didn't go along with the filming after all when she accidently on purpose put the camcorder in the washer Loved that little scene at the office when Gennie did her impression of the famous David Attenborough gorilla scene, She was quite quite good really had it off to a tee.
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