Person in the suit

Chocdoc

25-05-2011

I've got this from a collection of sources. It's speculation but I'd bet money on it.

Spoiler

Muttley76

25-05-2011

Keith Chegwin.

kitthekat

25-05-2011

Would the Doctor really sacrifice himself for the 'ganger' version, though?

I know he technically sacrificed himself for Rose at the end of Series 1, and there are probably other examples besides, but he always knew he'd regenerate if it got too bad so it wouldn't be like he was really gone.

I also can't see what benefit there would be in the Ganger Doctor surviving over the actual Doctor - does he have any skills or strengths above and beyond the Doctor's own?

korbany

25-05-2011

Originally Posted by kitthekat:
“Would the Doctor really sacrifice himself for the 'ganger' version, though?

I know he technically sacrificed himself for Rose at the end of Series 1, and there are probably other examples besides, but he always knew he'd regenerate if it got too bad so it wouldn't be like he was really gone.

I also can't see what benefit there would be in the Ganger Doctor surviving over the actual Doctor - does he have any skills or strengths above and beyond the Doctor's own?”

The problem with killing the Doctor and replacing him with a copy, is that the copy will never be the real Doctor. The copy could turn round and say, "Hey it wasn't me that wiped out the Time Lords, I wasn't there!". In short he would have no legitimacy as the Doctor.

Still I don't think SM would do this, it would be too easy a solution, it would be deeply unpopular and frankly I think SM will come up with something much more interesting, that will have us thinking, "Wow, I didn't see that coming!".

@ Muttley, if they ever cast Keith Chegwin as the Doctor we will know who to blame

madasalorry

25-05-2011

Maybe to give us more regenerations and slyly avoid the "limited regenerations" in some way?

Chocdoc

25-05-2011

Here you go:

http://doctorwhotv.co.uk/clip-double-doctor-20801.htm

Do you think the real Doctor is going to let anything happen to the new one? He wants to save them all - "humans and gangers"

Still, just speculation. Not saying I'm right!

johnnysaucepn

25-05-2011

Originally Posted by korbany:
“The problem with killing the Doctor and replacing him with a copy, is that the copy will never be the real Doctor. The copy could turn round and say, "Hey it wasn't me that wiped out the Time Lords, I wasn't there!". In short he would have no legitimacy as the Doctor.”

But he was there. He remembers being there.

When the Doctor regenerates, his cells rebuild him a completely new body from essentially scratch. How is that any more 'legitimate' than an identical body formed from Flesh?

MightyFuss

26-05-2011

There was no-one in the suit when the Doctor was shot. The ganger theory is misdirection. The first shot was fired from elsewhere, starting regeneration in the Doctor. The (empty and programmed to react) spacesuit fired the second shot, which was actually a device to extract the regeneration of the energy into the suit. The suit then used the energy to grow the little girl inside it. It was all the silent were missing to complete their project to make a timelord to power their proto tardis and fly them home. That's my theory! And anyway, all of this series is taking place in Amy's head...

allen_who

26-05-2011

I don't think the Ganger Doctor has anything to do with what we saw in TIA. Making a Ganger of the Doc was purely a decision by the scriptwriter (Mathew Graham) of this two parter cos he thought it would be fun.

It wasn't part of Ste Moffatts remit so therefore we can infer Moffatt has something else up his sleeve with the Astron't

sebbie3000

26-05-2011

Originally Posted by MightyFuss:
“There was no-one in the suit when the Doctor was shot. The ganger theory is misdirection. The first shot was fired from elsewhere, starting regeneration in the Doctor. The (empty and programmed to react) spacesuit fired the second shot, which was actually a device to extract the regeneration of the energy into the suit. The suit then used the energy to grow the little girl inside it. It was all the silent were missing to complete their project to make a timelord to power their proto tardis and fly them home. That's my theory! And anyway, all of this series is taking place in Amy's head...”

But in The Lodger, having a Timelord power the machine would cause it to blow up with a massive explosion. Why would they want that to happen?

And why would they have a proto-TARDIS created that they couldn't use? Seems a little silly to me, to go through all that trouble of suggesting a race build it, only to have them build it so that they couldn't themselves pilot the machine...

Agent Id

26-05-2011

Originally Posted by Muttley76:
“Keith Chegwin.”

I like the cut of your jib, sir. The logic is inescapable.