LOL that's great! And probably accurate...

Hilarious.

Throw in "blaaady" and "bleedin" a few times, and I could see that happening.

I agree, it happened last series when Paloma dug into the chubby one (cant remember his name ) and LS fired her

I hope it happens in that sense. I can't stand Zoe & Natasha especially Natasha. She just doesnt do a thing. I think she should have been fired.

I didn't like the way the girls rounded on Susan in the middle of the shopping centre. But if the team had lost, I'd have had no issue with them blaming Susan in the boardroom because she was culpable.


Susan's no angel. She tried to wriggle out of the claims she made.


Love it!

I did get Zoe and Natasha mixed up.

However, Zoe was right to raise the point about the advise Susan gave and however savvy to gameplaying Karen and Sir Alan may well be, agreed with the point made(Karen during the tasks and LS at the end with his comments on making a loss).

Susan's only got herself to blame because the advise she gave was proven to be wrong and Zoe was right to be more cautious when she had the majority telling her to back Susan's opinion. I don't consider it gameplaying and I don't think Sugar or Brady did either. I think Zoe was right.

If publicly telling Susan off wasn't game-playing, then what purpose did it serve? She went to a member of her team said "you said you could deliver this, you haven't delivered it so far, that's your fault" and then walked off again. What did she achieve by that action, other than to make it clear where she thought the blame lay? "You've made your bed and now you have to lie in it" is a pretty unambiguous statement.

As PM she should have looked for a constructive way to handle the fact that they weren't selling as much as Susan had thought they would, rather than just saying "it's your fault, you know" to Susan. Suggest a different selling strategy, perhaps, or ask Susan what she thinks the difference between this market and the one where she makes her money is and whether there's anything they can do to turn the one in to the other. But the only thing telling Susan off achieves is making sure people know that she's told Susan off.

I thought her problem had more to do with the locations than the negotiations. For example for the top hat the initial price was £365. She walked away from that to a second vendor, who offered £350. So she did the best she could in the circumstances (and that £15 saved was the difference between winning and losing). The other team I think paid £360.

Similarly with the tea. I forget the exact figures, but she got it reduced from £800 or so down to £400 or so. On that occasion she didn't have an alternative supplier so she accepted the deal. The problem was picking the wrong vendor, not knowing what a reasonable price was, and running out of time. The actual negotiation part was OK.

I think she became very defensive under criticism - not surprising given the way it was done. And she could have genuinely forgotten her exact words earlier in the day - I'd forgotten them during the hour long programme, and thought she was being unfairly accused of saying something she hadn't until I read this thread.

Someone earlier said She HAD basically said she could sell 60 products on her own.

I understand why people could think this is what Susan had been alluding to when Helen quoted Susan in the boardroom. However, since having just rewatched the episode I don't think the two sentences of what Susan said and what Helen thought Susan had said was exactly the same (in meaning o intended meaning).

Helen (turns to Susan) "your exact words were, I can sell 60 on my own" - (which Susan denies she said there and then in the boardroom).

From earlier on in the task what Susan had actually said in response to Zoe on the phone was.....
"thats just how much i sell." - (which I think was in ref to the sales she gets on her website and wasn't actually saying that she could sell 60 within this task).

Susan has an internet page of her company and the products and is it possible that Susan was naive in thinking that just because she sells 60 odd through her website (where it is not face to face selling) that she could in turn just get those figures via direct selling on the floor in a shopping centre where actual selling skills are needed to sell the products (with no reliance on fancy words and grapics on a slick well presented website). I get the impression Susan doesn't even sell face to face on a regular basis.

Ah, now that clears things up! So either Helen was being conniving - trying to twist Susan's words - or she genuinely misunderstood what Susan had said. My money, to be fair, would be on the latter.

I think Susan is quite good at face to face selling. She did well selling on the first task. She didn't do so well here, but I'm not clear that anyone else in that part of the team did any better.

I don't think they did. They never criticised Susan for not being a good saleswoman, only for overestimating how much her subteam could sell within the time they had. If the others had sold notably more than her then I'm sure that would have been brought up.

I thought from episode one she might be the females target, shame shes the only intresting one out of the women

there must be some substance to Susan and she is one of the leading candidates IMO but she needs to do some more graft to continue to get the support of Nick, LS and Karren. she organised her team well, which is more than most do.

I loved the look that Karen shot her as she was wailing that "nobody up here's got any money!"

If looks could have killed, at that moment, Susan's performance in the boardroom would have been academic.

For me youthful ignorance of a Londoner (not a go at Londoners [more youth] - just that it does have about three times the pop of anywhere else and easily beats a lot of Countries!) and Brummies are a wee bit cannier with there cash than just to chuck it about - spend it on the right things at the right time. Just so happened this wasn't - no biggy. To be fair that foot thing looked fantastic. Hate(ish) Zoe but she did a stellar job there.

yep, she's an easy target for them to deflect any blame from themselves.

Week in and week out, this girl opens her mouth and let's her belly rumble. Whether she has a website purporting to be a business or not is neither here nor there. She hasn't demonstrated a great deal to back up her claims and comes across to me as incredibly immature.

As PM her team won by default. I was very surprised by how poor the PM for the other team was. Shocking all round that week really.