[BOOTHY2905]

Originally Posted by Elissa Richards

I wouldn't count on any new tracks for Fm4, the lead-in development time is a minimum of a year and we're not that far from the launch of the next generation of xbox, T10 will be more than likely working on Fm5 in preparation, plus track packs are not great at generating sales, the Nurgburgring GP circuit on Fm3 wasn't a great seller.

Exactly. All they care about is money money money!!! I've sold my Xbox because there are no decent racing games anymore and people are only bothered about ripping everyone off with wasteful car packs and pay content. I'm sorry but I've already bought fora 4 twice over with all the dlc.
Fora 5 will be exactly the same as 3 and 4 in that they will give us more pointless car packs just to have another and another rivals challenge.
And nurburg was a bad seller because it should of been in the game in the first place and hardly any work would of been needed on it coz they'd already made it in FM3.

[kendoguk]

I'm still waiting for a Forza 4 ultimate edition lol

[2Dshmuplover]

Originally Posted by BOOTHY2905

Exactly. All they care about is money money money!!! I've sold my Xbox because there are no decent racing games anymore and people are only bothered about ripping everyone off with wasteful car packs and pay content.

Oh cool, does that mean you'll stop moaning now then? After all there's no point anymore.

[Elissa Richards]

Originally Posted by BOOTHY2905

Exactly. All they care about is money money money!!! I've sold my Xbox because there are no decent racing games anymore and people are only bothered about ripping everyone off with wasteful car packs and pay content. I'm sorry but I've already bought fora 4 twice over with all the dlc.
Fora 5 will be exactly the same as 3 and 4 in that they will give us more pointless car packs just to have another and another rivals challenge.
And nurburg was a bad seller because it should of been in the game in the first place and hardly any work would of been needed on it coz they'd already made it in FM3.

You know what?....I said to myself I bet that serial moaner comes in here jumping on the back of what I said....

I wish I'd been able to put money on it....

Don't quote my post saying 'Exactly' and implying we share the same views. i may not be happy with the number of tracks but I see it as logical business sense to not pursue products that aren't going to make a worthwhile return. You seem to see it as a deliberate middle finger to the players. People have what's called 'choice'....the choice to not purchase the game or DLC if they feel they're being ripped off. I haven't read any reports of people buying this game under duress. I certainly haven't bought all the car packs or felt I had to, I've picked and choosed what I like, I can't see any issue with that. Free will and all.....

So now you've sold off your xbox, commented many times how you're unhappy with the Forza franchise etc, is it fair to say you have nothing to contribute to this particular thread anymore??? Indeed why even look in the xbox threads? All this outrage can't be good for your blood pressure.

We get it.....you hate Forza and you wish everyone else did so those greedy developers at T10 would go out of business...that'll teach them.

I hope you realise that most people see it's you posting and just let your words wash over them. All games have faults, I don't think anyone has any issue with that, endless moaning though makes the poster look like they lack objectivity and clearly hold an agenda.

[BOOTHY2905]

Originally Posted by Elissa Richards

You know what?....I said to myself I bet that serial moaner comes in here jumping on the back of what I said....

I wish I'd been able to put money on it....

Don't quote my post saying 'Exactly' and implying we share the same views. i may not be happy with the number of tracks but I see it as logical business sense to not pursue products that aren't going to make a worthwhile return. You seem to see it as a deliberate middle finger to the players. People have what's called 'choice'....the choice to not purchase the game or DLC if they feel they're being ripped off. I haven't read any reports of people buying this game under duress. I certainly haven't bought all the car packs or felt I had to, I've picked and choosed what I like, I can't see any issue with that. Free will and all.....

So now you've sold off your xbox, commented many times how you're unhappy with the Forza franchise etc, is it fair to say you have nothing to contribute to this particular thread anymore??? Indeed why even look in the xbox threads? All this outrage can't be good for your blood pressure.

We get it.....you hate Forza and you wish everyone else did so those greedy developers at T10 would go out of business...that'll teach them.

I hope you realise that most people see it's you posting and just let your words wash over them. All games have faults, I don't think anyone has any issue with that, endless moaning though makes the poster look like they lack objectivity and clearly hold an agenda.

I don't look in here its in my subscribed thread.
I didn't imply you agreed with me and I never aimed an attack on a single forum user like yourself.
Thanks for that!

[2Dshmuplover]

Originally Posted by Elissa Richards

I wouldn't count on any new tracks for Fm4, the lead-in development time is a minimum of a year and we're not that far from the launch of the next generation of xbox, T10 will be more than likely working on Fm5 in preparation, plus track packs are not great at generating sales, the Nurgburgring GP circuit on Fm3 wasn't a great seller.

I'm starting to think the same, as time goes by the chances of new tracks get slimmer by the day. I think with the amount of car DLC (well over 100!) T10 should at least balance that out with one track, Spa or Monza, something like that will make all the difference. Regardless, I'm happy knowing they are hard at work on Forza Motorsport 5.

STEVE 03

I don't see the New York track coming back in a hurry as the main reason for it's exclusion was technical issues as it put a strain on the new engine for some reason. The original track without the chicanes would be great though I agree.

[Elissa Richards]

Originally Posted by BOOTHY2905

I don't look in here its in my subscribed thread.
I didn't imply you agreed with me and I never aimed an attack on a single forum user like yourself.
Thanks for that!

I'm trying to make you see that endlessly moaning just makes people shut off from what you've got to say....

Everyone else seems to have a nice genuine discussion about the game, and are able to highlight flaws without going on a tirade. You seem to constantly want to belittle the game at every chance and generally derail the thread into a T10/Xbox/DLC bashfest. You may have valid points, but please go and start a thread on the morals of DLC if that's what you want to discuss. It’s quite clear the people in here enjoy playing the game and want to discuss it, not the peripheral politics of what the developers and Microsoft are doing to increase their sales.

Maybe you're unaware how your posts come across but endlessly slating T10/Xbox/DLC kinda feels like you're attacking every person in here who enjoys the game or is happy to pay for DLC. I don't make a point of singling out individuals but this has gone on for months now. I've also been on the end of few forum pasting's and realised I probably deserved some of them due to my words and tone of posting.

[gother]

I'm currently making my way through Forza 3 and am thinking of getting Forza 4 is it worth getting? at the moment i can pick it up for £23.99 new.

[darkthunder35]

Originally Posted by gother

I'm currently making my way through Forza 3 and am thinking of getting Forza 4 is it worth getting? at the moment i can pick it up for £23.99 new.

It's better than Forza 3 in every conceivable way, so... yes!

[XxBlaKOuTZxX]

Yeah it's worth getting but there is loads of dlc for it which can become expensive if you want it all. There's a season pass which gets you a lot of the dlc and a VIP pass that gets you some dlc at a reduced cost but imo, not all the dlc is worth getting. For example, some of the dlc you get with the season pass is rubbish but as it's part of that pass it's just as well to download it. Season Pass is 2400ms points. VIP pass is 1200ms points, Porsche pack is 1600 but reduced to 1200 with the VIP pass.

[Elissa Richards]

Originally Posted by XxBlaKOuTZxX

Yeah it's worth getting but there is loads of dlc for it which can become expensive if you want it all. There's a season pass which gets you a lot of the dlc and a VIP pass that gets you some dlc at a reduced cost but imo, not all the dlc is worth getting. For example, some of the dlc you get with the season pass is rubbish but as it's part of that pass it's just as well to download it. Season Pass is 2400ms points. VIP pass is 1200ms points, Porsche pack is 1600 but reduced to 1200 with the VIP pass.

This!! (Sorry to be cliche!)...the DLC add on's are numerous and can bump up the cost!!

You can buy some of the cars individually from the car packs, unfortunately some of the 'must have' cars are reliant on you buying the whole pack. I've bought most car packs and realistically I've used approx 10 cars overall, it kinda depends what classes of cars you like racing. I like racing racecars so all the packs full of American muscle cars and lambo's etc are wasted on me, I'd say it's worth going for individual cars.

The best DLC pack I feel (Porsche pack not included) is the March 'American Le Mans Pack'....well I think it was either March or February it came out! But i would say that as it heavily features R1 and R3 class cars....

It might be worth buying the basic copy and if you really want all the DLC cars etc sit tight and wait for the 'Ultimate Collection' to be launched. This tends to happen towards the end of the game when T10 are already moving their thougths ahead to the next evolution of the game.

[gother]

I'll be joining you guys on Forza 4 sometime next week then once my cheque clears i'll pick it up and you can all laugh at the worlds worst driver me lol.

Feel free to add my GT thegame2k12

[smcbeath]

Junes car pack is coming,

2011 Chevrolet #4 Corvette Racing ZR1
1959 BMW 507
1940 Ford De Luxe Coupe
2011 Aston Martin Cygnet
1958 MG MGA Twin-Cam
1997 Maserati Ghibli Cup
2012 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Black Series
1987 RUF CTR Yellowbird
1992 Toyota Celica GT-Four RC ST185
1963 Volkswagen Beetle

Actually looking forward to this car pack, from herbie to the 1940 ford de luxe coupe.

http://forzamotorsport.net/en-us/Meguiars_car_pack/

Here is hoping that E3 will bring some news on a track pack, I am already getting bored with the porsche pack but a new track would help with that.

[mikey86uk]

Hoping to hear about Forza Horizon tonight!

[2Dshmuplover]

In case anyone missed it here is some gameplay footage of Forza Horizon in action here and also the new trailer.

Looks gorgeous, taking the FM4 physics model and implementing it into an open game world like this is so exciting. Dirt racing and day/night cycle is also confirmed. Cannot wait for this one.

[2Dshmuplover]

Originally Posted by smcbeath

Junes car pack is coming,

2011 Chevrolet #4 Corvette Racing ZR1
1959 BMW 507
1940 Ford De Luxe Coupe
2011 Aston Martin Cygnet
1958 MG MGA Twin-Cam
1997 Maserati Ghibli Cup
2012 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Black Series
1987 RUF CTR Yellowbird
1992 Toyota Celica GT-Four RC ST185
1963 Volkswagen Beetle

Actually looking forward to this car pack, from herbie to the 1940 ford de luxe coupe.

http://forzamotorsport.net/en-us/Meguiars_car_pack/

Here is hoping that E3 will bring some news on a track pack, I am already getting bored with the porsche pack but a new track would help with that.

I was surprised by this, wasn't sure when or if we'd be seeing any more DLC but they keep coming. Nice selection and the classic VW Beetle is must own!

[Premium-Onion]

Originally Posted by 2Dshmuplover

In case anyone missed it here is some gameplay footage of Forza Horizon in action here and also the new trailer.

Looks gorgeous, taking the FM4 physics model and implementing it into an open game world like this is so exciting. Dirt racing and day/night cycle is also confirmed. Cannot wait for this one.

It does look mighty good. I have it on the never ending pre-order list from this E3.

[mikey86uk]

Not sure if it will be as big and open as Test Drive though.

i liked the fact that with TDU, you had to drive to the dealership to buy a car, so hoping its the same here.

[2Dshmuplover]

Originally Posted by Premium-Onion

It does look mighty good. I have it on the never ending pre-order list from this E3.

Yep, we're in for a great year of games again.

[He4rt]

This is a day one purchase for me. I love the cockpit view in this clip http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3...horizon/731506 the sense of speed is brilliant especially when he passes the first car and the screen shakes.

Also loving the sound and music. Can't wait.

[gother]

Forza 4 arrived for me this morning and to me it seems more challenging than forza 3 lol.

[gother]

My thoughts of Forza 4 after spending a couple of hours on it.
Good points
good range of cars
good online
nice looking
Top gear track
A lot more challenging

Bad points
AI still acts like it's on a Scaletrix track by constantly sticking on the racing line no matter what.
Ai is overly aggresive and constantly rams you or cuts you up.
No new tracks (that i've noticed)

[2Dshmuplover]

Originally Posted by He4rt

This is a day one purchase for me. I love the cockpit view in this clip http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3...horizon/731506 the sense of speed is brilliant especially when he passes the first car and the screen shakes.

Also loving the sound and music. Can't wait.

Looks great, thanks for that vid.

I just wanted to quickly mention this month's car pack, it's the best one for me, the Beetle is so fun to drive and mod but so are many of the other cars, particularly the lower end ones and the ZR1 is a beast.

[2Dshmuplover]

Originally Posted by gother

Bad points
AI still acts like it's on a Scaletrix track by constantly sticking on the racing line no matter what.
Ai is overly aggresive and constantly rams you or cuts you up

Can you see what I see here?

There are new tracks, how have you missed them? The Burnese Alps, Hockenheimring, Indianapolis Motor Speedway and Infineon Raceway. The more you play FM4 the more you realise how it's a completely different game to FM3.

[2Dshmuplover]

Thought I'd post a couple of photo's from this month's car pack:

My Beetle, quite plain bar a suspension mod, removed the bumpers and gave it some nice alloys. <click>

And a couple of pictures of the Aston Martin Cygnet, a cool little car and very nippy. Fully built and nice livery <1> <2>