Ive been trying to check on line but can the Pioneer bdp320 be set to drive an LCD over the hdmi cable?
Is it true the 330 doesnt seem to be as flexible ?
Is it true the 330 doesnt seem to be as flexible ?
pioneer bdp320 hdmi to LCD
Originally Posted by 2steps:
“Ive been trying to check on line but can the Pioneer bdp320 be set to drive an LCD over the hdmi cable?”
“Ive been trying to check on line but can the Pioneer bdp320 be set to drive an LCD over the hdmi cable?”
What an odd way to phrase it...it has HDMI out so obviously it'll connect to any TV with HDMI input.
sorry its a 1024x768 lcd projector
It will only accept that resolution so the scaling will be in the 320
Can the 320 scale a standard PAL DVD to fit the letter box centre of the 1024x768 screen?
What are the options?
It will only accept that resolution so the scaling will be in the 320
Can the 320 scale a standard PAL DVD to fit the letter box centre of the 1024x768 screen?
What are the options?
Originally Posted by 2steps:
“sorry its a 1024x768 lcd projector
It will only accept that resolution so the scaling will be in the 320
Can the 320 scale a standard PAL DVD to fit the letter box centre of the 1024x768 screen?
What are the options?”
“sorry its a 1024x768 lcd projector
It will only accept that resolution so the scaling will be in the 320
Can the 320 scale a standard PAL DVD to fit the letter box centre of the 1024x768 screen?
What are the options?”
What inputs does the projector have ?
Whether the DVD will scale to fit the 1024 x 768 output depends on the pixel aspect ratio used. If the par produces a 16:9 picture then a widescreen DVD (PAL or NTSC) should fit perfectly. If the picture aspect ratio is not 16:9 (16:10 is common in PC's) then there will be black bars or a distorted picture depending on what scaling options the projector has.
The projector has no scaling options on its DVI input.
Ive been using svideo and trying to make the change to digital
With svideo SD PAL neatly fits the letter box 1024x576 on the screen
The question is what output scaling does the 320 HDMI output have. I see there are menu choices for different display types but I cant find out what it does when you select those. The later 330 doesnt seem to have as many options
So if you select 576p - what actually comes out of the 320 HDMI port, depending on display device settings?
Ive been using svideo and trying to make the change to digital
With svideo SD PAL neatly fits the letter box 1024x576 on the screen
The question is what output scaling does the 320 HDMI output have. I see there are menu choices for different display types but I cant find out what it does when you select those. The later 330 doesnt seem to have as many options
So if you select 576p - what actually comes out of the 320 HDMI port, depending on display device settings?
Originally Posted by 2steps:
“So if you select 576p - what actually comes out of the 320 HDMI port, depending on display device settings?”
“So if you select 576p - what actually comes out of the 320 HDMI port, depending on display device settings?”
Presumably 720 x 576 progressive at 25fps for a PAL DVD. Whether it scales a NTSC DVD up from 480p and reduces it's frame rate from 29.97 fps is another question.
You say the projector does not scale, I never saw a bitmapped digital video device that did not scale any input to it's native resolution. Why would a digital projector be any different ?
Normally hdmi/dvi devices talk to each other, the source sends the best picture it can to the display.
For example connect the bluray to a TV that reports it works at the native 1080p24 thats what it sends. If the display says it's not 24p compliant the player uses drop frame pulldown to send a 60Hz signal.
ok I suppose it scales in a way
For instance with svideo the source puts out 720 oblong pixel dots per line which end up on the 1024 square pixels of the LCD with some aliasing.
With hdmi I was hoping that if I was lucky the projector would tell the bdp320 that it required 1024 horizontal dots and that the bdp320 would internally upscale the 720 pixels from the DVD to 1024.
If I was unlucky I'd have to set it up in the menu system. Trouble is I cant find anywhere what the menus in the BFP320 actually do in terms of scaling etc for different display types or whether the 330 is any worse
For instance with svideo the source puts out 720 oblong pixel dots per line which end up on the 1024 square pixels of the LCD with some aliasing.
With hdmi I was hoping that if I was lucky the projector would tell the bdp320 that it required 1024 horizontal dots and that the bdp320 would internally upscale the 720 pixels from the DVD to 1024.
If I was unlucky I'd have to set it up in the menu system. Trouble is I cant find anywhere what the menus in the BFP320 actually do in terms of scaling etc for different display types or whether the 330 is any worse
Originally Posted by 2steps:
“ok I suppose it scales in a way
For instance with svideo the source puts out 720 oblong pixel dots per line which end up on the 1024 square pixels of the LCD with some aliasing.
With hdmi I was hoping that if I was lucky the projector would tell the bdp320 that it required 1024 horizontal dots and that the bdp320 would internally upscale the 720 pixels from the DVD to 1024.”
“ok I suppose it scales in a way
For instance with svideo the source puts out 720 oblong pixel dots per line which end up on the 1024 square pixels of the LCD with some aliasing.
With hdmi I was hoping that if I was lucky the projector would tell the bdp320 that it required 1024 horizontal dots and that the bdp320 would internally upscale the 720 pixels from the DVD to 1024.”
The 320 will only output in HDTV timing resolutions -
576/50i 480/60i
576/50p 480/60p
720/50p 720/60p
1080/50i 1080/60i
1080/50p 1080/60p
1080p/24
It's down to the display to be able to accept one of these resolutions, not the player to scale to something not on this list.
If your data projector can't accept and scale the incoming signal correctly then you will need a scaler for the job.
A bigger hurdle will be HDCP. I doubt a DVI only projector that does not accept HDTV resolutions will be HDCP equipped.
In DVI mode it says it accepts 1024x768
What it doesnt say is what happens if the source outputs 720x576
Do you know if the 320 outputs 720x576 or whether it converts to square pixels and outputs 1024x576?
What it doesnt say is what happens if the source outputs 720x576
Do you know if the 320 outputs 720x576 or whether it converts to square pixels and outputs 1024x576?
Originally Posted by 2steps:
“Do you know if the 320 outputs 720x576 or whether it converts to square pixels and outputs 1024x576?”
“Do you know if the 320 outputs 720x576 or whether it converts to square pixels and outputs 1024x576?”
As said above it only outputs recognised TV resolutions, which 1024x576 is not.
I'm just reading the list
It seems it will accept analogue versions of your list on s-video and convert them
I was trying to improve image quality by going digital
It does some sort of blending process to display digital
640x480,720x400, 800x600, 1024x768, 1152x864, 1280x960, 1280x1024
I'm assuming those are all square pixels
if you set the 320 output menu to lcd does it output square pixels?
It seems it will accept analogue versions of your list on s-video and convert them
I was trying to improve image quality by going digital
It does some sort of blending process to display digital
640x480,720x400, 800x600, 1024x768, 1152x864, 1280x960, 1280x1024
I'm assuming those are all square pixels
if you set the 320 output menu to lcd does it output square pixels?
Originally Posted by Roush:
“A bigger hurdle will be HDCP. I doubt a DVI only projector that does not accept HDTV resolutions will be HDCP equipped.”
“A bigger hurdle will be HDCP. I doubt a DVI only projector that does not accept HDTV resolutions will be HDCP equipped.”
no mention of HDCP - does that matter?
Should I stick with s-video
HDCP is a copy protection system used by virtually all HDMI sources that encrypts the link between the source and the receiving device. If your projector is not HDCP equipped then the player will simply refuse to send a signal to it.
If you are not in a position to upgrade the projector then I'd say you are best off sticking with the analogue inputs unless you have a computer you could use as a digital source.
If you are not in a position to upgrade the projector then I'd say you are best off sticking with the analogue inputs unless you have a computer you could use as a digital source.
