but it was disrespectful of the others to blank her as they left to go back tto the house.Almost mirror opposite of the Melissa situation in the last series
Felicity may have been a bad PM...
I agree it was rather petty. But when faced with someone who is studiously glaring at her knees with a face like a bulldog chewing a wasp, maybe they thought it best to ignore 
Felicity effectively blanked them by remaining seated and not even looking up at them. Why didn't she get up to congratulate them?
What made it worse was Ellie bragging about it back at the house, thinking she sounded 'cool'. Silly mare.
Originally Posted by SillyBillyGoat:
“What made it worse was Ellie bragging about it back at the house, thinking she sounded 'cool'. Silly mare.”
“What made it worse was Ellie bragging about it back at the house, thinking she sounded 'cool'. Silly mare.”
With a face like Ellie's you probably feel pretty bitter about most things.
I think alot of candidates are approaching the process like a game, they know how the show works now.
It was interesting when Ellie returned to the house and said it was what she considered a friend who had dragged her through the mud in the boardroom. So maybe she felt like ignoring Felicity was a way of getting her back, which is rather petty really.
I think Natasha simply followed Ellie. She was only seconds behind Ellie coming out of the boardroom and seemed to glance over at a particularly dejected-looking Felicity and maybe felt like shaking her hand would have been weird and out-of-place.
Although maybe her comments at the end about seeing who people really are in the boardroom means that she took Ellie's side, and that Felicity had kind of stabbed her friend in the back.
Or just maybe, I'm over-analyzing it all a bit much.
It was interesting when Ellie returned to the house and said it was what she considered a friend who had dragged her through the mud in the boardroom. So maybe she felt like ignoring Felicity was a way of getting her back, which is rather petty really.
I think Natasha simply followed Ellie. She was only seconds behind Ellie coming out of the boardroom and seemed to glance over at a particularly dejected-looking Felicity and maybe felt like shaking her hand would have been weird and out-of-place.
Although maybe her comments at the end about seeing who people really are in the boardroom means that she took Ellie's side, and that Felicity had kind of stabbed her friend in the back.
Or just maybe, I'm over-analyzing it all a bit much.
Actually, Felicity was seen looking at the floor or her knees really upset, but when Ellie and Natasha came out of the boardroom, you could see Felicity looking at them. But they just walked past her.
Maybe they were embarrassed because they knew they had ganged up on her and were being two faced?
Personally, I thought not saying goodbye was poor form. Yes it is a gameshow but it's still nice to wish the fired candidate the best. It's not as if Felicity was two faced and personal about things.
On the topic, I loved the way Ellie stood up for herself, she went high up in my estimation but then when she walked past Felicity and started saying to the other candidates how she didnt say goodbye, I didnt much like that.
Natasha is just a follower. I'm glad Karen and Lord Sugar have her sussed.
Maybe they were embarrassed because they knew they had ganged up on her and were being two faced?
Personally, I thought not saying goodbye was poor form. Yes it is a gameshow but it's still nice to wish the fired candidate the best. It's not as if Felicity was two faced and personal about things.
On the topic, I loved the way Ellie stood up for herself, she went high up in my estimation but then when she walked past Felicity and started saying to the other candidates how she didnt say goodbye, I didnt much like that.
Natasha is just a follower. I'm glad Karen and Lord Sugar have her sussed.
Originally Posted by Kishan:
“Actually, Felicity was seen looking at the floor or her knees really upset, but when Ellie and Natasha came out of the boardroom, you could see Felicity looking at them. But they just walked past her.
It's not as if Felicity was two faced and personal about things.
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“Actually, Felicity was seen looking at the floor or her knees really upset, but when Ellie and Natasha came out of the boardroom, you could see Felicity looking at them. But they just walked past her.
It's not as if Felicity was two faced and personal about things.
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Well said.
Originally Posted by meglosmurmurs:
“It was interesting when Ellie returned to the house and said it was what she considered a friend who had dragged her through the mud in the boardroom. So maybe she felt like ignoring Felicity was a way of getting her back, which is rather petty really.”
“It was interesting when Ellie returned to the house and said it was what she considered a friend who had dragged her through the mud in the boardroom. So maybe she felt like ignoring Felicity was a way of getting her back, which is rather petty really.”
Ellie didn't think she deserved to be in the boardroom; I largely agree, and so I think did Lord Sugar. It seemed Felicity picked her out of some long-standing animosity rather because of what happened on the task. It wasn't a business choice. Arguably, given how bitter it got, for Ellie to turn round and be all nicey-nicey would have been hypocritical.
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“I think Natasha simply followed Ellie.”
“I think Natasha simply followed Ellie.”
Agreed.
Originally Posted by brangdon:
“Ellie didn't think she deserved to be in the boardroom; I largely agree, and so I think did Lord Sugar. It seemed Felicity picked her out of some long-standing animosity rather because of what happened on the task. It wasn't a business choice. Arguably, given how bitter it got, for Ellie to turn round and be all nicey-nicey would have been hypocritical.”
“Ellie didn't think she deserved to be in the boardroom; I largely agree, and so I think did Lord Sugar. It seemed Felicity picked her out of some long-standing animosity rather because of what happened on the task. It wasn't a business choice. Arguably, given how bitter it got, for Ellie to turn round and be all nicey-nicey would have been hypocritical.”
Ellie might not have thought she deserved to be brought in, but Felicity had a perfectly sensible argument for doing so. She and Melody had been sitting up there in the treatment area doing nothing, and while Felicity should have been more on top of this (indeed ,Felicity was most culpable for this and did deserve to be fired) it's arguable Ellie could have been more proactive about this.
If not her, then who? Tom was partly culpable over not pressing home the point about the inactivity of the treatment side, but then he had the fact that he had pointed out the problems over location to fall back on. She had to bring in someone.
I don't think it got so very bitter. I've seen people hug and say goodbye after worse boardrooms than that.
Do you not think Felicity took Ellie and Natasha in strategically as really Tom should have been taken in. He even said it himself! Yes he was right about location but the major failing of the task was them not physically escorting people up to the treatment rooms, which is what he was sent down to do. He ignored these instructions given by Ellie and Melody and went on selling fake hair.
I think Felicity didn't want to take in a man as men had been fired on the previous three tasks and so knew it was highly unlikely he would fire another man,
I think Felicity was the one who stabbed Ellie in the back as she seemed to have it in for her for no reason and previous to this had been quite a good friend. I agree it would have been hypocritical for them to be all nicey nicey with her when she had stabbed her in the back and said things like she wasn't a team player which is clearly untrue.
I think Felicity didn't want to take in a man as men had been fired on the previous three tasks and so knew it was highly unlikely he would fire another man,
I think Felicity was the one who stabbed Ellie in the back as she seemed to have it in for her for no reason and previous to this had been quite a good friend. I agree it would have been hypocritical for them to be all nicey nicey with her when she had stabbed her in the back and said things like she wasn't a team player which is clearly untrue.
Originally Posted by L_DolanSkip:
“Do you not think Felicity took Ellie and Natasha in strategically as really Tom should have been taken in. He even said it himself! Yes he was right about location but the major failing of the task was them not physically escorting people up to the treatment rooms, which is what he was sent down to do. He ignored these instructions given by Ellie and Melody and went on selling fake hair.
I think Felicity didn't want to take in a man as men had been fired on the previous three tasks and so knew it was highly unlikely he would fire another man,
I think Felicity was the one who stabbed Ellie in the back as she seemed to have it in for her for no reason and previous to this had been quite a good friend. I agree it would have been hypocritical for them to be all nicey nicey with her when she had stabbed her in the back and said things like she wasn't a team player which is clearly untrue.”
“Do you not think Felicity took Ellie and Natasha in strategically as really Tom should have been taken in. He even said it himself! Yes he was right about location but the major failing of the task was them not physically escorting people up to the treatment rooms, which is what he was sent down to do. He ignored these instructions given by Ellie and Melody and went on selling fake hair.
I think Felicity didn't want to take in a man as men had been fired on the previous three tasks and so knew it was highly unlikely he would fire another man,
I think Felicity was the one who stabbed Ellie in the back as she seemed to have it in for her for no reason and previous to this had been quite a good friend. I agree it would have been hypocritical for them to be all nicey nicey with her when she had stabbed her in the back and said things like she wasn't a team player which is clearly untrue.”
She knew Tom would rip her apart for the location if he was in the boardroom. So yeah, to an extent I would agree it was strategic. However Ellie was stupid to just be sat in the room for 4 hours doing nothing. What separated Ellie from Melody was the fact that Melody went down and became a good saleswoman & escorted people up.
Originally Posted by L_DolanSkip:
“Do you not think Felicity took Ellie and Natasha in strategically as really Tom should have been taken in. He even said it himself! Yes he was right about location but the major failing of the task was them not physically escorting people up to the treatment rooms, which is what he was sent down to do. He ignored these instructions given by Ellie and Melody and went on selling fake hair.
I think Felicity didn't want to take in a man as men had been fired on the previous three tasks and so knew it was highly unlikely he would fire another man,
I think Felicity was the one who stabbed Ellie in the back as she seemed to have it in for her for no reason and previous to this had been quite a good friend. I agree it would have been hypocritical for them to be all nicey nicey with her when she had stabbed her in the back and said things like she wasn't a team player which is clearly untrue.”
“Do you not think Felicity took Ellie and Natasha in strategically as really Tom should have been taken in. He even said it himself! Yes he was right about location but the major failing of the task was them not physically escorting people up to the treatment rooms, which is what he was sent down to do. He ignored these instructions given by Ellie and Melody and went on selling fake hair.
I think Felicity didn't want to take in a man as men had been fired on the previous three tasks and so knew it was highly unlikely he would fire another man,
I think Felicity was the one who stabbed Ellie in the back as she seemed to have it in for her for no reason and previous to this had been quite a good friend. I agree it would have been hypocritical for them to be all nicey nicey with her when she had stabbed her in the back and said things like she wasn't a team player which is clearly untrue.”
I don't think Lord Sugar would have bothered about the gender of the person he was firing if he thought they were the right person to go.
All this "stabbing in the back" stuff is a nonsense. It's part of the rules that the PM takes two people in. Even if you feel that they were wrong to bring you in, if they have a rationale for it it's childish to get all huffy over it.
Ellie was only stuck up in the room for three hours because Felicity told her she had to stay up there. They couldn't leave the treatment room unattended and it was Felicity who decided Ellie should stay up there all the time. Ellie didn't want this but at the end of the day Felicity was the PM and so had made that decision. Felicity never commented on Ellie's or Natasha's performance on the task before the board room and then seemed to suddenly turn on Ellie and use her as a scapegoat when she was the one who had stuck her up in the room in the first place!
Perhaps it was a particularly moody boardroom and we didn't see a lot of it? It never usually happens and Natasha and Ellie don't seem like particularly unpleasant characters.
Felicity seemed to have no intention of saying goodbye either so it goes both ways.
Felicity seemed to have no intention of saying goodbye either so it goes both ways.
Originally Posted by L_DolanSkip:
“Ellie was only stuck up in the room for three hours because Felicity told her she had to stay up there. They couldn't leave the treatment room unattended and it was Felicity who decided Ellie should stay up there all the time. Ellie didn't want this but at the end of the day Felicity was the PM and so had made that decision. Felicity never commented on Ellie's or Natasha's performance on the task before the board room and then seemed to suddenly turn on Ellie and use her as a scapegoat when she was the one who had stuck her up in the room in the first place!”
“Ellie was only stuck up in the room for three hours because Felicity told her she had to stay up there. They couldn't leave the treatment room unattended and it was Felicity who decided Ellie should stay up there all the time. Ellie didn't want this but at the end of the day Felicity was the PM and so had made that decision. Felicity never commented on Ellie's or Natasha's performance on the task before the board room and then seemed to suddenly turn on Ellie and use her as a scapegoat when she was the one who had stuck her up in the room in the first place!”
Felicity was to blame for the situation, but what was she supposed to do? You can't expect her to just say "I'm just coming in the boardroom myself, Lord Sugar, because I and no-one else made a bollocks of the task" Someone had to come in. Her case was that Ellie could have done more to alert her to the problem; a poor case, but it would have been against any other team member. Felicity was always going to go.
