That was my rule with Windows but I have always found Ubuntu very stable right off the bat.

Downloading it now. See how we go. I liked it a lot when I had it installed the other day, but found a couple of annoying bugs that sent me back to openSUSE. Generally, I found it eating a lot of the CPU which led to applications freezing (greying out) and being unusable. The System Settings tool was one that would take an age to open, then an age to close. Usual suspect Firefox was very slow too. I was a bit surprised to see a lot of memory being used too, and had read about a Compiz memory leak somewhere. Regardless, I was happy to go back to the stable performance of Gnome Shell!

But I really want to love the 'Bunt, and this release is very impressive if they can sort out the issues. Maybe it's all been fixed now.

I'm still going strong with Gnome 3 .. i must have done something right

Well a quick play with the live USB reveals the same bugs, so I'm gonna stick with what I've got. I'll perhaps try it again in a month or so.




What do you think?

Sounds like I was too quick to blame Compiz/Ubuntu. There are indeed a number of complaints about the Nvidia drivers over on Nvidia's Linux forum relating the same issues I had, and an official announcement was made. I'll try Ubuntu again when they release a new Nvidia driver, hopefully soon.

Well if this pans out to be true, then it will hopefully give ATI\NVIDIA a kick up the backside and start taking Linux drivers more seriously?
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...pfnudeln&num=1

http://www.osnews.com/comments/25873

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...tem&px=MTA5Mjc

I like it. Very much what I was expecting. I'm still currently going through the missing windows phase at the moment, but i'm trying to stick with it.

I always think if i stick with linux it'll encourage me to use my brain more if i want to do things in bash. when i worked in IT, i did it all on Unix systems as well so it's not like i don't know how to do it.

I've also had a version of Informix saved on disk forever so i want to unpack that and get that up and running at some point as well so i can maybe see if i can pick up developing in that again.

haven't tried any major games yet, just to see how the ATI drivers really do hold up under a bit of stress, but i'm sure i'll find something decent to play - i can always try the old classic and install "Open Arena" again

You'll have gathered from my posts that I'm a bit of a Gnome 3 Shell fan. I just find it utterly intuitive, so much so that I find myself frustrated when using other DE's when it doesn't do the same things.

I'm not an especially technical Linux user, but I know enough to get by and have enough common sense to get it going well. I find you don't have to learn bash for Linux to get the brain working. Just distro-hop. That'll do it!

I have tried the distro hopping before and every single time I have come back to Ubuntu and Unity

I think my adventures in distro-hopping are well chronicled in this thread

My Kubuntu 11.10 (I think) wants me to upgrade. The last software upgrade was really slow at about 46KiB so I think I'll wait a few days at least.

Course. Forgot who I was talking to.

Summit takes place next week, some of the points to be discussed ...

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...tem&px=MTA5MzY

http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-q/meeti...-startup-time/

http://uds.ubuntu.com/

Xfce 4.10 Released after 1 year and 4 months of work.

http://xfce.org/about/tour

I don't know why people mump on about Gnome 2 ending and the pointless MATE project when XFCE is so damn fine. This looks stunning. I'll be putting Xubuntu 12.04 on the missus' laptop soon.

And great\easy to customise
http://i41.tinypic.com/6qchfq.png

Gave up on Cinnamon, has got potential but too buggy in its early stages yet.
Agree about MATE, dont get why devs at the likes of Mint are wasting time on it, its not like they have endless rescources.

They should be limmiting there OS versions or standards will drop!

The gb servers are terribly slow, so put aside a lot more time than usual.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1968569

I just did a text based install of Kubuntu 12.04 (I like ncurses) which all went very nicely except for server delays during updates. I'm even happy to let grub2 do its stuff these days. I went for the 64bit DVD install thinking it could save the install procedure having to download language packs.

Learnt something today too. Not sure if it applies to all USB 3 optical drives, but I couldn't boot from my shiny new Lite-On until I plugged it into a USB 2 socket. They use the standard plug at the PC end.

I used cfdisk, instead of the more usual fdisk, to set up partitions. It's better according to man fdisk.

I really liked Ubuntu desktop, but I find it a bit bloated now, I'm not a fan of Unity either, I just find it annoying.

I tried my hardest to like it but I just can't.

I'm running Lubuntu 12.04 on My Emachines ER1401 now and I have to say I really like it, doesn't come with most of the crap Ubuntu does.

I mainly use the Emachines for XBMC, To test I decided to install Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and XBMC would not manage 1080p (With VDPAU & even VAAPI enabled) at all. I threw on Lubuntu and XBMC plays 1080p no problem.

I must have been lucky, as I managed to grab it in about ten minutes. Downloading Lubuntu now for the wee EeePC and it's nice and quick. Very impressed with Xubuntu though. Easily fits the Gnome 2 slot for the whingers imho.

Still no sign of a new Nvidia driver. I dunno why but I got it into my head that we'd see a new update soon because of all the bugs. But then, I haven't had them on my openSUSE install. Only Ubuntu. Hmmm....

Yup, the actual .iso files download quick enough, it's updates which take forever if their source is gb.archive.ubuntu.com.

I wanted a modern minimal command line only Linux so I just installed ubuntu server and went for the minimal version. Fits easily in 1GB (with swap on another drive) and boots very quickly of course.

Yes, updating the missus current 10.04 install took ages. Very slow, but I think it's a bit better today.

Just discovered Ubuntu 12.04 Gnome Shell Remix. I think I'm going to have to give this a go. I reckon it would be a good idea for Canonical to bring this in as an official version. I try, try, try to love Unity, but I'm just going to have to admit that I can't. I always end up back on Gnome Shell, but the problem is it's rubbish on Ubuntu as it's missing a lot of main Gnome components and just doesn't feel as nice. I still want the Ubuntu technology, but I want it to come with Gnome and not Unity. Maybe this can fill the void.

The main reason for my recent hardware upgrade was to get better gaming performance on Windows, so I've been installing and setting up XP initially and then; because I had to use IDE instead of AHCI for the drives, and I had a sound problem in XP, Win7. So many many reboots and then because I had to make a bigger partition to accommodate 7, I had to install Kubuntu and its little server flavour again.

And then the sound problem turned out to be because the install of the XP Realtek sound card driver switched the in and outs to the front sockets and I was already plugged in the ones at the back.

At all times the current (previous) Kubuntu 11.10, which was installed on entirely different hardware, has worked without a hitch. Although I'd definitely re-install the nVidia driver if I wasn't 'bringing up' a new install. I've found the same during previous upgrades, but it never ceases to impress...

Just a bit of news, as some people are having problems with Nvidia drivers.

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...tem&px=MTA5NTY

That's excellent news. I'm currently backing up my openSUSE install with a view to trying Ubuntu again, so this is timely. I'm a bit unsure though; does this release fix all of the reported bugs? The article makes no reference to them, unless I'm completely blind...

Sorry, as im a ATI user (or AMD if you must ) didn't read it all, and as a ATI user im not sure what the present 'Bugs' are with the Nvidia driver