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Old 03-11-2012, 13:32
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I had Linux Mint 13 Cinnamon installed on my main PC.
It was OK but not really suited to a big widescreen monitor IMO.
The taskbar couldn't be widened, and the icons on it were inscrutable.

However I started to have problems with the shell crashing.
I'd be listening to music and I'd notice that the taskbar, dock and window chrome etc had disappeared. You could use the mouse and bring up the terminal to shutdown or restart though.
It started doing occasionally, but progressed to happening every few minutes.

Anyway I uninstalled that and have put Kubuntu on it.
I think KDE is probably the best looking desktop environment for a large widescreen monitor at the mo, as you can make the taskbar as wide as you like, and you have all the plasmoid widgets to look at.

However I generally prefer Gnome to KDE, and on my other PC, which has a smaller 16:10 monitor, I like Ubuntu Unity.

I'll probably give Cinnamon another bash when Mint 14 comes out, but not on my main PC.
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Old 03-11-2012, 15:01
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A friend is wanting to use Linux, but one thing he needs is Itunes, as he currently has a lot of his life setup to using it. Ive tried to convince him otherwise, but he says he really likes it.

Ive never bothered to look into ways working around itunes in linux, as I've a few machines so always have Win alongside linux to use, if I have to.

Im going to install Ubuntu on his machine for now and may move him on to better later. I've lent him an old laptop to play with and he really enjoys that.

I was thinking of setting up a virtual win OS on Linux (vmware/virtualbox) but hes limited on memory and Im not sure hell really be able to cope with it.

So anyone use itunes with linux in any way?
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Old 06-11-2012, 14:16
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Old 12-11-2012, 19:08
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http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=07549

Will give it a go and see if the stability issues are any better on my hardware.
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Old 12-11-2012, 22:04
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I had Linux Mint 13 Cinnamon installed on my main PC.
It was OK but not really suited to a big widescreen monitor IMO.
The taskbar couldn't be widened, and the icons on it were inscrutable.

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Mint 14 RC
Fine on my widescreen mointor.
Can also adjust size of bottom task bar
Not sure what specific problems you had with icons?

And so far no crashes, would have thrown a wobbly by now on older Mint.
Will try it for a week, but still have my Xfce running as back up
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Old 12-11-2012, 22:47
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I installed Linux Mint image on a virtualbox.

Couldn't get on with it at all, I found I couldn't do anything usable with it at all.

Firefox worked, that was about it.

Seems that the only software that works with any particular distro is stuff that you compile the source code directly.

Linux seems to lack a decent installer as well, I found a number of software installs wouldn't run without super user privileges.

There's also a number of things you can't do that you just take for granted on windows, ping being one of them.

I gave up in the end and deleted it.
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Old 12-11-2012, 23:26
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I installed Linux Mint image on a virtualbox.

Couldn't get on with it at all, I found I couldn't do anything usable with it at all.

Firefox worked, that was about it.

Seems that the only software that works with any particular distro is stuff that you compile the source code directly.

Linux seems to lack a decent installer as well, I found a number of software installs wouldn't run without super user privileges.

There's also a number of things you can't do that you just take for granted on windows, ping being one of them.

I gave up in the end and deleted it.
This has to be a wum - its not 1999 you know
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Old 13-11-2012, 01:24
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Mint 14 RC
Fine on my widescreen mointor.
Can also adjust size of bottom task bar
Not sure what specific problems you had with icons?

And so far no crashes, would have thrown a wobbly by now on older Mint.
Will try it for a week, but still have my Xfce running as back up
I'll give it a go when it's released properly.

It was the little icons on the right of the taskbar that weren't very usefully designed. Difficult to tell what they represented.
(and the horrendous icons for Firefox and Nautilus, come to think of it)

Is it still using grub version 1.99, or has it moved to 2.0 like Ubuntu?
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Old 13-11-2012, 10:09
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I installed Linux Mint image on a virtualbox.

Couldn't get on with it at all, I found I couldn't do anything usable with it at all.

Firefox worked, that was about it.

Seems that the only software that works with any particular distro is stuff that you compile the source code directly.

Linux seems to lack a decent installer as well, I found a number of software installs wouldn't run without super user privileges.

There's also a number of things you can't do that you just take for granted on windows, ping being one of them.

I gave up in the end and deleted it.
Installing software via the repositories is one of the easiest things to do with Linux. Compiling from source code is doing it the hard way. Even if I knew how I wouldn't bother.
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Old 13-11-2012, 19:09
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Linux seems to lack a decent installer as well,
The installer is a total breeze to use.

I'll give it a go when it's released properly.

It was the little icons on the right of the taskbar that weren't very usefully designed. Difficult to tell what they represented.
(and the horrendous icons for Firefox and Nautilus, come to think of it)

Is it still using grub version 1.99, or has it moved to 2.0 like Ubuntu?
Uses Grub 2.

And yes i agree, the default Firefox icon is yuck.

Havent got my Mint looking as good as my Xfce yet.
But still no crashes!

Oh and why the lack of screensavers on some of the Linux distros
At the risk of sounding boring and repeating myself the ones on Xfce are brill
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Old 14-11-2012, 00:17
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Uses Grub 2.

And yes i agree, the default Firefox icon is yuck.

Havent got my Mint looking as good as my Xfce yet.
But still no crashes!

Oh and why the lack of screensavers on some of the Linux distros
At the risk of sounding boring and repeating myself the ones on Xfce are brill
Yeah, they've used Grub2 for quite a while, but I was interested in the version number at the top of the screen.
(ETA: looking at your post again, that might be what you meant? )

Mint 13 (and Ubuntu 12.04) used version 1.99, but Ubuntu 12.10 uses 2.00, which has slightly clearer labelling and organisation.
Still bloody boring looking though.

I see from the website that they've dropped Nautilus in favour of Nemo as the file manager.
No idea what the difference is, but at least Nemo has a more traditional icon, rather than the spiral shell icon of Nautilus.

Haven't used screen-savers for years, so don't miss 'em.
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Old 18-11-2012, 15:18
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Heads up for everyone
Linux Mint 14 final release in it's various formats Mate, cinammon etc has just become available

available on the heanet server as usual
http://ftp.heanet.ie/mirrors/linuxmint.com/stable/14/
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http://community.linuxmint.com/iso for the announcement of approved stable release
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Old 18-11-2012, 19:16
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Hiya guys. Not posted for a while as I have the builders in and my PC is in storage. So no Linux for me for a while, except for this tiny EeePC I have with Bodhi Linux on. It'll tide me over.

Heads up for everyone
Linux Mint 14 final release in it's various formats Mate, cinammon etc has just become available

available on the heanet server as usual
http://ftp.heanet.ie/mirrors/linuxmint.com/stable/14/
and see
http://community.linuxmint.com/iso for the announcement of approved stable release
Lovely to see Mint coming out with their latest release. Gonna be December before I get to taste it, but so far from what I've seen it looks absolutely fantastic. All their components seem to be coming together beautifully. Nemo and Cinnamon seem to go through daily updates. I've been on Kubuntu 12.10 which is amazing, but I've no doubt I'll be trying Mint 14 when it's out. In spite of bad press, underneath it all 12.10 is a solid stable release, so Mint 14 will benefit from that. It's when you add Unity it all goes wrong!
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Old 18-11-2012, 20:29
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Hiya guys. Not posted for a while as I have the builders in and my PC is in storage.
No PC

Been running Mint 14 RC for a week, and so far no crashes, unlike previous attemps at using Mint.
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Old 19-11-2012, 19:19
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I know. It's really hard going at the moment. The whole house is getting done and we're having to live in it. Coupled with no Linux or PC, makes Kal El feel much less Super than usual. However I am much cheered to read about how awesome the new Mint is. So far early opinions are really positive looking around the net. It's not made the Mint or Distrowatch front page yet though, so I don't think it's officially out just yet.
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Old 20-11-2012, 18:30
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Linux mint 14 final release is officially out See announcement http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2216
download available on http://ftp.heanet.ie/mirrors/linuxmint.com/stable/14/
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Old 01-12-2012, 13:55
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Just installed Mint 14 Nadia and it's as good as ever. One thing I've noticed and it may just be paranoia, is that when a new version comes out the previous one starts to misbehave. It's happened several times over the past few years: icons don't work, desktops please themselves which version they launch, menus don't respond, browser add-ons don't work. All of which is subsequently cured by upgrading/reinstalling.
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Old 01-12-2012, 17:47
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Just installed Mint 14 Nadia and it's as good as ever. One thing I've noticed and it may just be paranoia, is that when a new version comes out the previous one starts to misbehave. It's happened several times over the past few years: icons don't work, desktops please themselves which version they launch, menus don't respond, browser add-ons don't work. All of which is subsequently cured by upgrading/reinstalling.
It's getting some great reviews. I hate to be all gushing but I really do feel Linux Mint has this thing sewn up, I really do. I don't think I've used such a pleasant OS at home.

Our lot are still running Mint 13 with no issues at all. I wonder what's going awry with yours?
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Old 01-12-2012, 20:28
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It's getting some great reviews. I hate to be all gushing but I really do feel Linux Mint has this thing sewn up, I really do. I don't think I've used such a pleasant OS at home.

Our lot are still running Mint 13 with no issues at all. I wonder what's going awry with yours?
All is OK now I've moved to 14 but if it were Apple or Microsoft I'd suspect some sort of chicanery.
It's very elegant and seems to be attracting people who've fallen out of love with Ubuntu.
If the Distrowatch chart is anything to go by, it's more popular than Ubuntu or Fedora.
The next obstacle Linux will have to overcome is Microsoft's pernicious Secure Boot. Maybe it's the thought of free software beyond their control which upsets them.
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Old 01-12-2012, 20:57
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The next obstacle Linux will have to overcome is Microsoft's pernicious Secure Boot. Maybe it's the thought of free software beyond their control which upsets them.
Its not a problem, you can dual boot win8 - linux
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73APmLYHATw
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Old 02-12-2012, 15:28
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Puppy Linux Slacko Version 5.4 is released.

Combines Puppy with Slackware 14.0 to allow installation of a large selection of packages.

http://01micko.com/slacko14.html

Also Puppy Linux Precise (Combines Puppy with Ubuntu) Version has been bumped to 5.4.2 to include several bugfixes and improvements.

http://bkhome.org/blog2/?viewDetailed=00049

Puppy is great for new or experienced Linux users.
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Old 07-12-2012, 09:58
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I am trying out the new Cinnamon in Ubuntu but the only thing putting me off is the size of the icons and text in the Desktop menus. Is anybody out there with the same problem and can it be changed easily in GUI without directly editing text files.
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Old 07-12-2012, 11:59
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I'll be installing Mint 14 Cinnamon on my laptop. Pinguy OS has served me well, but Mint 14 looks something really special!

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Old 07-12-2012, 21:46
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Its a love it or hate it!

But a new release is due 21st Dec 2012

(i put the year as those that know it, they take ages between releases at E17 )

ive dabbled with it in the past, but will give the new release a play with over xmas
http://www.enlightenment.org/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kai0fobyHRc

https://e17releasemanager.wordpress....riday-of-doom/
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Old 08-12-2012, 12:41
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I'm using E17 with Bodhi Linux at the moment. It can be a bit strange at first, but like most DE's it's not long before you figure it out. The major selling point for me is the low system resources, meaning I can stick an Ubuntu based distro on our ancient-specced EeePC and it's still fast. It's amazing what it does with such minimal demands.
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