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Old 21-06-2011, 21:15
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Fat32

GParted s great, just not newbie friendly, so think they should offer options for easy installs for newbies.


It's just so I can easily share between my Linux installs and the Windows 7 one. I've had the partition a while, in my defence.

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no files over 4GB then?
Not on that partition, no. The stuff larger than that is on the back up drive, which is formatted with a number of EXT4 partitions.
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Old 21-06-2011, 21:17
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Newbie friendly partitioning http://www.partitionwizard.com/parti...otable-cd.html
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Old 22-06-2011, 10:30
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I just let Ubuntu format my whole drive before installation, can't be doing with separate partitions. All my music is backed up on my iPod and all my machines, and all my photos are saved to DVD for storage as back-up on regular intervals. Also, all my files I use in everyday use are stored in Ubuntu One.

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Old 22-06-2011, 15:20
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I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Try this link which suggests that GNU software takes up around 8% of a typical Linux distro (in this case, Ubuntu Natty), the kernel itself is bigger than that. Yes, so there is GNU code in there but to say it makes up the rest of the OS is a bit over the top. If you can suggest a true Linux distro which has >50% GNU code then maybe you would have a point in calling that GNU/Linux.

Don't get me wrong, I have respect for what GNU does, and what it contributes to Linux distros, but I just think the whole thing should be kept in better perspective.
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Old 22-06-2011, 19:15
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Just tried Antix-M11 Linux out on the Eee 701. Hmmm, it's OK, but it seems to install a lot of software for a 'lightweight' distro. A lot of it is pointless on the Eee, though I suppose those with low powered desktops will find a lot to like. What's with that non-free EULA though?

Back to Zenix on the Eee for me though. It's not perfect, but it's the best one I've tried yet on it.
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Old 22-06-2011, 19:18
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I just let Ubuntu format my whole drive before installation, can't be doing with separate partitions. All my music is backed up on my iPod and all my machines, and all my photos are saved to DVD for storage as back-up on regular intervals. Also, all my files I use in everyday use are stored in Ubuntu One.

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Its probably different if you dont use itunes, but your iPod/iPhone is not a backup that can be recoverable from with DRM'd stuff (just a serious point worth making for people that are using iTunes really).
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Old 22-06-2011, 20:43
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Looks like

http://news.opensuse.org/2011/06/22/...s-milestone-2/

is already using Firefox 5.

But they do have until Nov 10 2011, to iron out any bugs ready for the Public Release.
http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Roadmap

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1459782

and some extra reading and good news
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...item&px=OTQwOA
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Old 22-06-2011, 21:47
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Its probably different if you dont use itunes, but your iPod/iPhone is not a backup that can be recoverable from with DRM'd stuff (just a serious point worth making for people that are using iTunes really).
I use my one iPod on a combination of both iTunes and Banshee, never had a problem backing up to either player or syncing between them.

None of my music is DRM'd stuff, only CDs I have ripped (about 900 of them) and podcasts.

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Old 23-06-2011, 09:46
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I noticed Ubuntu 11.04 updated Firefox to Firefox 5 this morning. I can't see any major changes from Firefox 4 though at the moment.

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Old 23-06-2011, 11:06
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I thought It's unusual for Ubuntu to upgrade Firefox versions on an already-released distro - other than for minor bug-fix upgrades - so was surprised by that. They have always wanted to maintain stability, ie fix bugs or offer minor version upgrades only. Ubuntu 8.04 launched in April 2008 with Firefox 3, but in 2010 its Firefox was jumped to 3.6. However on reading up, it looks like policy changed in mid-2010.
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Old 23-06-2011, 16:16
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I've been writing a few articles (as some of you may have noticed), and my latest one is ripping DVDs in Ubuntu/Linux. Hopefully some newbies to Linux in general will find them useful. I didn't realise Linux had such powerful DVD ripping software, and thankfully the sound doesn't go out of sync which it always used to do on my WIndows machines.

Next I will be checking out video editing software, as I have not really had much chance to check those programs out yet. Can anyone recommend me any Video Editing software to try other than "PiTiVi" and "LiVES" (I will be looking at these two first).

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Old 23-06-2011, 17:11
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K9Copy for the win. Though I have just discovered the joys of Handbrake and having a TV that accepts .mkv files via USB.
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Old 23-06-2011, 21:40
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I noticed Ubuntu 11.04 updated Firefox to Firefox 5 this morning. I can't see any major changes from Firefox 4 though at the moment.

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I thought It's unusual for Ubuntu to upgrade Firefox versions on an already-released distro - other than for minor bug-fix upgrades - so was surprised by that. They have always wanted to maintain stability, ie fix bugs or offer minor version upgrades only. Ubuntu 8.04 launched in April 2008 with Firefox 3, but in 2010 its Firefox was jumped to 3.6. However on reading up, it looks like policy changed in mid-2010.
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/06/f...less-features/
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Old 24-06-2011, 16:04
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Some of this is a duplicate of previous posts however there is more
I upgraded from Ubuntu 10.04 via an old CD then right to 10.10 and 11.04 a few months back. Immediately there were issues.

Unity wouldnt work despite getting a command line off this forum. right-clicking the desktop and the tab to adjust the display settings was missing. This you know from a few posts ago however.....

the latest problem is an update that removed google chrome and knocked me off the internet. I'm also unable to access the little internet icon on the panel to see whats going on. Its been suggested that i force the GRUB menu to show up but all i get is an out of range after holding down the shift button during boot up. The same thing happens when I try to boot normally
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Old 24-06-2011, 17:25
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I upgraded from Ubuntu 10.04 via an old CD then right to 10.10 and 11.04 a few months back. Immediately there were issues.
When you say 'upgraded' do you mean you left the old version in, and did it that way?
Or did you do a format and a 'clean install'?
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Old 24-06-2011, 22:42
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When you say 'upgraded' do you mean you left the old version in, and did it that way?
Or did you do a format and a 'clean install'?
neither. I simply installed 10.04 and did the rest by the software centre. Should have done a clean install probably but oh well. too late now
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Old 25-06-2011, 10:05
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neither. I simply installed 10.04 and did the rest by the software centre. Should have done a clean install probably but oh well. too late now
I think that's what 1saintly meant by "left the old version in, and did it that way". I would say it's not too late to put the disc in and do a fresh install, but just be careful to back up everything important. You'll lose it otherwise. However, I think you may find the problems you are having with 11.04 could possibly still be there with a fresh install. It's a very problematic release for a lot of users. Don't be frightened of looking into other distros.

Upgraded to Firefox 5 on openSUSE the other day. It looks no different at all, but is definitely faster than 4.
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Old 25-06-2011, 15:49
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neither. I simply installed 10.04 and did the rest by the software centre. Should have done a clean install probably but oh well. too late now
Try Mint and leave Ubuntu's developer to worry about its problems.
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Old 25-06-2011, 16:41
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Info for you KDE Fans http://dot.kde.org/

http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.7-rc1.php
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Old 25-06-2011, 20:20
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Try Mint and leave Ubuntu's developer to worry about its problems.
hmmm well i just got everything reloaded so probably leave it for now. However if this does screw up what makes mint better? I could read all the glowing reports on the website but i'd rather hear it from actual people using it
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Old 26-06-2011, 00:14
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hmmm well i just got everything reloaded so probably leave it for now. However if this does screw up what makes mint better? I could read all the glowing reports on the website but i'd rather hear it from actual people using it
Years back when I first heard about mint being better than than Ubuntu I had to try it to find out for myself and there was very little between them back then .

Trust me Mint is now much better than Ubuntu .

The way I see it is Ubuntu is beta and Mint the final release.
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Old 26-06-2011, 07:37
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hmmm well i just got everything reloaded so probably leave it for now. However if this does screw up what makes mint better? I could read all the glowing reports on the website but i'd rather hear it from actual people using it
Mint tends to knock the rough edges off Ubuntu and includes a few more useful things (codecs etc.) which Ubuntu users have to add themselves.
It's often called "Ubuntu done properly".
It works out of the box, looks good and rarely causes problems.
The latest version uses Gnome 2.32 and steers clear of Unity, which seems to be giving the most trouble.
Mint is also a cure for a serious distrohopping.
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Old 26-06-2011, 09:58
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And lets be honest - those rough edges are protruding out ever further. Ubuntu needs improving from the bottom up, not the top down. All very well having a flash new interface, but when the rest of it feels ignored then it results in a frustrated end user. Unity is not the problem with Ubuntu, but the focus on it is.

I'm still confused by the decision to create Unity when Gnome 3 is so well done and ready to go. I've read back on the blog posts when Canonical were arguing with the Gnome team, and none of it makes any sense.

I would say if Mint have built on Ubuntu and improved it then that is what I would use if you simply must have an Ubuntu styled OS. Otherwise, look into something else, at least for now, because I don't think 11.10 Oneiric sounds as though it's going to be much better than 11.04 Natty, just going on forum posts...
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Old 26-06-2011, 10:30
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I'm still confused by the decision to create Unity when Gnome 3 is so well done and ready to go. I've read back on the blog posts when Canonical were arguing with the Gnome team, and none of it makes any sense.
Gnome-Shell is in no way well done or ready to go yet.

Out of the box Unity is better, but Gnome-Shell can be made somewhat usable through various extensions.

I'm interested to see which way Linux Mint will go. Hopefully they'll build their own extensions to GS.

Move the clock to the far right of the top bar, make Dash (the GS dock) persistent and configurable as to where it's placed (left, right or bottom of the screen), ditch the "Activities" button and hot-corner, have an applications menu in the dock, make the windows activities accessible from a keyboard shortcut, use the alternative status menu (for more shutdown options), and stick a global menu in the top bar and we'll have a decent GS.

When all that can be done easily (or comes that way out of the box) i'll switch to Gnome 3. At the moment i'm running Linux Mint Debian Edition pinned to Debian Stable. Unless Gnome 3 substantially improves i'll probably be switching to a pure Debian Wheezy system when it's released and will be running KDE.
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Old 26-06-2011, 11:06
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Gnome-Shell is in no way well done or ready to go yet.

Out of the box Unity is better...
With respect, I completely disagree. There's a lot of basic functionality missing from Unity, whereas the difference with Gnome 3 is the user becoming accustomed to it. The clock being in one position or another makes little difference to me personally. What matters is it's easy to use, makes sense, is attractive and modern, and most importantly, more than anything, it works. You can't really say that for Unity right now.

But I imagine that the things you list as Gnome 3 must haves will come in time, as distros decide on their approach to the Gnome 3 design and what they want to do with it, though I will add that much of what you say is actually possible right now with the right Gnome 3 extensions. With Unity, I don't see that there's much anyone could do with it if they wanted to. The lens thing looks interesting though.

It's early days for both, and I expect there'll be a lot of leapfrogging over the years as one bests the other and vice versa. But to me Unity is wasted effort, and unless someone can honestly say otherwise, I just don't see the point.
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