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Linux Users general chat thread.
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noise747
03-02-2014
Originally Posted by lettice:
“That processor was designed to address the problem of putting a full desktop Pentium 4 processor into a laptop. Quite a number of manufacturers used them.
Are you running Puppy Linux via usb? It works very well like that on older kit I have tested.

Have you pulled out the cmos battery on that laptop for 10-15 mins, that may reset it?”

Originally Posted by Oscar_:
“That step in the boot sequence should only take a second or two at the most. Sounds like something in the BIOS is preventing Puppy from loading all the needed kernel modules properly so it is just freezing there. Try the battery idea or hopefully you will find some other way in. Puppy is usually very good on those P4 era machines.”


I should have said that the machine is a desktop, that is why I can not understand them using a mobile processor.

Took the battery out, and that did the trick, well with the bios anyway, I can not get into it. I thought shorting the two pins out would have done that.

Still having problems with ditros, with Puppy linux, I left it until I came back from town and it had loaded up by then, but even resetting the bios have made no difference in booting up puppy.

I may have a better look tomorrow, to be honest I can not be bothered tonight

But thanks for the idea about the battery, normally that is what I would have done if the bios reset pins did not work, no idea why I did not think of it today.
lettice
04-02-2014
Originally Posted by noise747:
“I should have said that the machine is a desktop, that is why I can not understand them using a mobile processor.

Took the battery out, and that did the trick, well with the bios anyway, I can not get into it. I thought shorting the two pins out would have done that.

Still having problems with ditros, with Puppy linux, I left it until I came back from town and it had loaded up by then, but even resetting the bios have made no difference in booting up puppy.

I may have a better look tomorrow, to be honest I can not be bothered tonight

But thanks for the idea about the battery, normally that is what I would have done if the bios reset pins did not work, no idea why I did not think of it today.”

Had a quick look last night in the Puppy community last night and there are many mentions of Pentium M only working with or causing problems. Fix is to use the non-PAE iso builds.
noise747
04-02-2014
Originally Posted by lettice:
“Had a quick look last night in the Puppy community last night and there are many mentions of Pentium M only working with or causing problems. Fix is to use the non-PAE iso builds.”

Thanks for that, I am using non-pae, but it still not doing any good. Maybe it is just this computer, oh well I will stick Xp back on it, at least then it can be used. no good having windows 7 on it if the thing can't play you Tube videos because of no drivers for video card.

The person that owns it said he is not going to spend any money on it, as it is nto worth it, but if it can be used for watchign the odd you tube video, do a bit of browsing then it will be fine.
they got a laptop and this is more or less a second machine, but I think he been done with it.

According to what he told me, he only got the machine a few months back and was told everything was new inside, which it can't be because none of the components are produced now. I have no idea how much he paid for it, but I hope it was not a lot.

You can pick up a new machine with more power for just over the ton. Even if it is a Celeron.
Esot-eric
04-02-2014
Originally Posted by noise747:
“You can pick up a new machine with more power for just over the ton. Even if it is a Celeron.”

Or a second-hand C2D machine for half that.

I just picked up an HP DC7700 C2D (E6400) with 3GiB of RAM and 80GB HDD for £43 delivered from a refurbisher on eBay. When i got it the hard drive turned out to be dying but a quick email to the seller and they sent me a replacement drive.

It'll be replacing my uncle's ancient XP P4 machine.

Slapped Linux Mint on there and everything's running fine.

Might even get another one of these for my brother. The addition of an AMD HD5450 graphics card (just got one for £10.50), a USB infrared receiver and OpenELEC and it could be a very competent XBMC machine.
TheTruth1983
05-02-2014
Anyone else find that performance of 64bit distros is not as good as 32bit?

I have a new laptop with an AMD Quad Core 5000 1.5GHz CPU and I have noticed more freezing and application crashes with Xubuntu 64bit than I did on my old laptop with Xubuntu 32bit.
alanwarwic
13-02-2014
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/09...sh_investment/
"As part of its $1bn investment, IBM has created a "Power Systems Linux Center" in Montpelier, France, where software developers will build various fashionable apps (eg., big data! cloud! mobile! social business computing!) on Linux and POWER7+ tech."

Seems the idea is to license their chips, ARM like, so developing Linux might turn out to be a useful avenue.
1saintly
15-02-2014
Originally Posted by TheTruth1983:
“Anyone else find that performance of 64bit distros is not as good as 32bit?

I have a new laptop with an AMD Quad Core 5000 1.5GHz CPU and I have noticed more freezing and application crashes with Xubuntu 64bit than I did on my old laptop with Xubuntu 32bit.”

No not had any issues with x64
But did stop using latest Xubuntu as found it very buggy compared to usual releases!
what release are you using?

There is a new version about to be released
ive been using daily build and its stable
http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/m...2952/downloads
you even get a volume icon
1saintly
15-02-2014
Not had a play with this yet, but am downloading it.

http://www.android-x86.org/screenshot

http://www.android-x86.org/releases/releasenote-4-4-rc1
1saintly
15-02-2014
download and running kitkat on pc, live cd.
just like phone interface.
can play youtube vids etc, so sound and video and internet card all working ok
noise747
15-02-2014
Originally Posted by 1saintly:
“Not had a play with this yet, but am downloading it.

http://www.android-x86.org/screenshot

http://www.android-x86.org/releases/releasenote-4-4-rc1”

Originally Posted by 1saintly:
“download and running kitkat on pc, live cd.
just like phone interface.
can play youtube vids etc, so sound and video and internet card all working ok ”


What is the point?

Android is fine for phones or tablets but it is not for a full size computer.
noise747
15-02-2014
Originally Posted by 1saintly:
“No not had any issues with x64
But did stop using latest Xubuntu as found it very buggy compared to usual releases!
what release are you using?

There is a new version about to be released
ive been using daily build and its stable
http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/m...2952/downloads
you even get a volume icon ”

Still using Mint here, but Manjaro is coming up in leaps and bounds for stability.
1saintly
15-02-2014
Originally Posted by noise747:
“What is the point?

Android is fine for phones or tablets but it is not for a full size computer.”

Just because it can be done, just a bit of fun for a hour running a live cd.
also it could lead to better things, if everyone said sod it whats the point, nothing would change
if it promps some bored talented teenager to think ....
Oooh i know what i could change on that to make it better or different....
re Linux or the rasberry Pi

Originally Posted by noise747:
“Still using Mint here, but Manjaro is coming up in leaps and bounds for stability.”

Manjaro is still my main OS, not had any stability issues with it for a while.
Even loaded the KWin and Cinnamon ontop of my Xfce.
Can just choose any of the 3 at log on.
All 3 are running fault free.
noise747
16-02-2014
Originally Posted by 1saintly:
“Just because it can be done, just a bit of fun for a hour running a live cd.
also it could lead to better things, if everyone said sod it whats the point, nothing would change
if it promps some bored talented teenager to think ....
Oooh i know what i could change on that to make it better or different....
re Linux or the rasberry Pi
”

Fair enough. I have seen large all in one style computers running android, i know someone who was going to buy one, thankfully they changed their mind and got a all in one windows machine,

Quote:
“Manjaro is still my main OS, not had any stability issues with it for a while.
Even loaded the KWin and Cinnamon ontop of my Xfce.
Can just choose any of the 3 at log on.
All 3 are running fault free.”

I like it, but the problem I had was sometimes it was a pain to get software running on it which I like.

I can't be bothered these days to muck around, I want it to work. i love open source, but some of the Linux distros are a bit of a pain .
emptybox
16-02-2014
Haven't tried Manjaro, but it's based on Arch, which I use.
Although Pacman is great, in terms of the command line control you have over it, it does seem to be a bit limited in the software that it has.

I've installed Yaourt, which gives you easy access to everything in the Arch User Repository.
Bit tricky to install initially, but after that it's as easy to use as Pacman.
1saintly
17-02-2014
KDE To get a makeover
http://vdesign.kde.org/what.html
http://vdesign.kde.org/
http://wheeldesign.blogspot.se/
1saintly
24-02-2014
Seems theres no stopping them.
Arch equivalent of Mint

http://manjaro.org/2014/02/23/manjar...t-our-servers/

Do like the choice of 2 Xfce.
henrywilliams58
24-02-2014
So how do you pronounce Linux?

LIE nux

LINN ux

LEE nux

LEE nooks

etc.?

This is the man himself

http://www.paul.sladen.org/pronuncia...says-linux.wav

LEE nux it is then
lettice
24-02-2014
Originally Posted by henrywilliams58:
“So how do you pronounce Linux?

LIE nux

LINN ux

LEE nux

LEE nooks

etc.?

This is the man himself

http://www.paul.sladen.org/pronuncia...says-linux.wav

LEE nux it is then”

Or even
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IfHm6R5le0
TheTruth1983
24-02-2014
Right, I need a music manager that won't bloody crash in the middle of adding music to my iPod Classic 160gb (that, or an alternative to the iPod ).

I have tried GTKPod, Banshee, and Rhythmbox and all of them crash when adding my sizable music collection to the iPod and it is frickin annoying.
henrywilliams58
25-02-2014
Any one got Google Drive on Linux Mint? And MS One Drive?
henrywilliams58
25-02-2014
Originally Posted by lettice:
“Or even
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IfHm6R5le0”

or maybe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK0xXFZtJ8Q

This is: The Origins of Linux - Linus Torvalds (1.5 hrs)

http://youtu.be/WVTWCPoUt8w
henrywilliams58
25-02-2014
Originally Posted by henrywilliams58:
“Any one got Google Drive on Linux Mint? And MS One Drive?”

I found and am installing SyncDrive

http://syncdrive.fr/?page_id=33
noise747
25-02-2014
Originally Posted by 1saintly:
“Seems theres no stopping them.
Arch equivalent of Mint

http://manjaro.org/2014/02/23/manjar...t-our-servers/

Do like the choice of 2 Xfce.”

I do like Manjaro, it seems to run well, stable and fast, but it does seem to use a bit more resources than Mint. I tried it on the laptop and it was slower compared to mint.
lettice
25-02-2014
Originally Posted by henrywilliams58:
“Any one got Google Drive on Linux Mint? And MS One Drive?”

Plenty of ways to get google drive, see you have found one.
One for ondrive (skydrive)
https://github.com/xybu92/onedrive-d
Kal_El
25-02-2014
Originally Posted by henrywilliams58:
“So how do you pronounce Linux?

LIE nux

LINN ux

LEE nux

LEE nooks

etc.?

This is the man himself

http://www.paul.sladen.org/pronuncia...says-linux.wav

LEE nux it is then”

Sounds like LINNUX to me, not LEENUX. I used to say LIENUX, but after hearing that some time ago I now say LINNUX.

Not that it matters...
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