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#1851 |
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Save youre money.
Best thing is to download and run a live dvd, or if youre not bothered about loosing youre XP, just install linux. (obviously using live dvd its a bit slower and you dont always get full functions) But it will give you a feel for it. Play around with it, its not that difficult to find youre way around. If not sure ... Google /youtube/or ask on here. Only problem, if it is a problem is theres so much choice.Look on this site for links on the right to the more popular releases. http://distrowatch.com/index.php?dataspan=13 ubuntu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7uI2DAOExY mint http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8F_1sdUeSg kubuntu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PW4OtsAJb70 but for a old laptop, youre better of with Xfce http://xubuntu.org/ or even lighter on hardware lxde http://lubuntu.net/ This guy has his mum try out what seems like all the available distros. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ4tGi8moXc ) but it would give it a new lease of life and it could be used for visitors to surf the web on or as a spare computer or for use in front of the TV. I'll find a use for it! I think I might give Lubuntu and LXLE a try. I also read Puppy Linux is good for old hardware and a lightweight distro might be better for XP era machines. Is that OSFirstTimer you posted a Youtube link to? I love those videos They're Australian but the videos are really good. He got his mum to try Windows old and new and also some Mac systems as well as Linux distros. She hates Windows 8 Watch the Windows ME one, it is really funny!
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#1852 |
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Just installed Lubuntu on my mum's ancient desktop. It's a Sempron 2200+, with 768Mb RAM (don't ask!) and an Nvidia Geforce 6200. I wasn't expecting much (I wasn't expecting anything really) but was really pleased at how well it seemed to run. It was version 13.10 but I'll stick them the new one on soon and just leave them with it as it's supported for five years.
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#1853 |
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Canonical is Shutting Down Ubuntu One File Services
Just read this, i dont use it so wont affect me.
http://ubuntugnome.org/canonical-u1/ https://one.ubuntu.com/services/shutdown/ https://one.ubuntu.com/ |
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I have one of these - Asus eee PC 1000H
http://www.cnet.com.au/asus-eeepc-1000h-339290898.htm and plan to install Ubuntu Linux on it later in the month after the last XP updates (I just want to see what they are first). Apparently there was a special build of Linux for this machine, unfortunately the links I found to it no longer work so it must have been withdrawn. Is there anything I need to know before doing the deed and wiping XP? I bought it in 2008, very late in the XP era and one the last XP machines I ever saw on sale, I have always thought it was a bit under powered even for XP but that won't matter soon. Thanks |
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Just read this, i dont use it so wont affect me.
http://ubuntugnome.org/canonical-u1/ https://one.ubuntu.com/services/shutdown/ https://one.ubuntu.com/ I use it to back up my important files, mainly because you can use a unique password, whereas Microsoft's One Drive uses your Microsoft password which is widely used, and therefore not as secure IMO. Of course there are loads of Cloud services, so I won't need to look far for an alternative. Quote:
I have one of these - Asus eee PC 1000H
http://www.cnet.com.au/asus-eeepc-1000h-339290898.htm and plan to install Ubuntu Linux on it later in the month after the last XP updates (I just want to see what they are first). Apparently there was a special build of Linux for this machine, unfortunately the links I found to it no longer work so it must have been withdrawn. Is there anything I need to know before doing the deed and wiping XP? I bought it in 2008, very late in the XP era and one the last XP machines I ever saw on sale, I have always thought it was a bit under powered even for XP but that won't matter soon. Thanks As you say, there used to be a Netbook edition of Ubuntu, but it was merged with the ordinary desktop version in 2011, so the ordinary version should work fine. Try a live CD/DVD/USB first though. |
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#1856 |
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That's a pity.
I use it to back up my important files, mainly because you can use a unique password, whereas Microsoft's One Drive uses your Microsoft password which is widely used, and therefore not as secure IMO. Of course there are loads of Cloud services, so I won't need to look far for an alternative. You'd probably be best advised to try lightweight desktops on it like XFCE or LXDE. As you say, there used to be a Netbook edition of Ubuntu, but it was merged with the ordinary desktop version in 2011, so the ordinary version should work fine. Try a live CD/DVD/USB first though. |
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Just installed Lubuntu on my mum's ancient desktop. It's a Sempron 2200+, with 768Mb RAM (don't ask!) and an Nvidia Geforce 6200. I wasn't expecting much (I wasn't expecting anything really) but was really pleased at how well it seemed to run. It was version 13.10 but I'll stick them the new one on soon and just leave them with it as it's supported for five years.
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There's little to tell really. They've both been using Mint for some time with no issues. I just point them at the basics and they're usually OK. The only time this came unstuck was with KDE, where my dad would insist on moving all the widgets and the taskbar about the place. Cinnamon is better as it's locked down more and harder to mess up, but he always unlocked KDE somehow and shifted it all around!
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There's little to tell really. They've both been using Mint for some time with no issues. I just point them at the basics and they're usually OK. The only time this came unstuck was with KDE, where my dad would insist on moving all the widgets and the taskbar about the place. Cinnamon is better as it's locked down more and harder to mess up, but he always unlocked KDE somehow and shifted it all around!
http://lxle.net/ minimum RAM requirement 500MB |
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Thanks. I was considering a live DVD but the purpose is to give the XP machines in the house a new lease of life instead of consigning them to the tech scrapheap now that support is about to end. I won't be using the laptop as my main one (my Macs serve that purpose
) but it would give it a new lease of life and it could be used for visitors to surf the web on or as a spare computer or for use in front of the TV. I'll find a use for it! I think I might give Lubuntu and LXLE a try. I also read Puppy Linux is good for old hardware and a lightweight distro might be better for XP era machines. Is that OSFirstTimer you posted a Youtube link to? I love those videos They're Australian but the videos are really good. He got his mum to try Windows old and new and also some Mac systems as well as Linux distros. She hates Windows 8 Watch the Windows ME one, it is really funny! |
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See this link for reviews of several light linux distros http://www.everydaylinuxuser.com/201...stems-for.html
Puppy is good but only really suitable for really old machines with RAM less than 256mb Best full light linux distros in my opinion are LXLE, Linux Mint XFCE (mint cinnamon edition although great is too demanding for an old machine so XFCE better), Solydx, Zorin 7 lite, Xubuntu (again an xfce version of Ubuntu) |
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New Ubuntu 14.04 out today at some point. Really looking forward to this release. I'll not be moving away from Mint personally, so the wait until the end of May goes on for me, but 14.04 is going on the missus' laptop. All signs are pointing to a great release. The previous betas and whatnot have had brilliant feedback.
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I think i'm going to make the jump from Windows XP on my netbook to Linux !!!!
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New Ubuntu 14.04 out today at some point. Really looking forward to this release. I'll not be moving away from Mint personally, so the wait until the end of May goes on for me, but 14.04 is going on the missus' laptop. All signs are pointing to a great release. The previous betas and whatnot have had brilliant feedback.
![]() i got to put linux back on my computer today at some point. Back to work tomorrow and since I am working over the weekend, apart from Sunday, I will have little time to do it then. thinking of going back and trying Majaro again. |
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I think i'm going to make the jump from Windows XP on my netbook to Linux !!!!
You may as well, try something light like elementary, it is based on Ubuntu, so software installation is easy and plentiful. The only problem with it is that it uses a dock system like the Mac and no start menu, but it is a light distro and seems to work fine on lower powered machines. |
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You may as well, try something light like elementary, it is based on Ubuntu, so software installation is easy and plentiful.
The only problem with it is that it uses a dock system like the Mac and no start menu, but it is a light distro and seems to work fine on lower powered machines. |
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You don't t hink ones like Ubuntu / Mint would be suitable for a netbook with 1GB/Atom?
Ubuntu I haven't tried, but I would be less keen to put that on a low powered spec these days. Think of Mint as being more XP like in demands, and Ubuntu a bit more W7/8 like. |
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You don't t hink ones like Ubuntu / Mint would be suitable for a netbook with 1GB/Atom?
Mint with Cinnamon is pretty light and I did stick it on a netbook, but it was a dual core Atom and 2GB of ram and it ran ok. Not so sure about Ubuntu with unity, but one of Ubuntu distros with another desktop may work fine. Have a peek at http://distrowatch.com. It dpends if you used Linux before and how confident you are. If you got a back up of your netbook, then if you muck up you can go back to XP. i presume you got a second computer? Best way is to make a USb stick up with the distro you want to look at and plug that into the netbook until you are sure Linux live usb creator can help you with that, get it from here. |
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You may as well, try something light like elementary, it is based on Ubuntu, so software installation is easy and plentiful.
The only problem with it is that it uses a dock system like the Mac and no start menu, but it is a light distro and seems to work fine on lower powered machines. Looks really nice and like the dock idea myself. But will have to install firefox browser. Have a couple of older test machines that have been running XP and Mint, but may use this on them. Just downloading now, will run in a VM first to try it out. Have a few users who need an XP upgrade, but they were not convinced with the Ubuntu or Mint desktop, this may work for them. They wanted to see the XP desktop. Linux does tend to turn their nose up, not sure what they have heard, but they seem to think its poor. Nothing I say can change their mind, its a shame really, as I use Mint, Puppy and Ubuntu on a few older machines and in VMs with only 1gb memory set regularly and all work very well. |
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I've got Elementary OS on one of my machines (Pentium 4, 2GB RAM). Really simple and elegant.
The current 'Luna' version is based on Ubuntu 12.04. They are working on the successor 'Isis' (presumably based on 14.04), but could take ages, so no need to wait. To get a few customization features install elementary-tweaks. |
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Still waiting
Site says its ready
http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/m...nes/314/builds you can download from there. But offical still waiting http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop ![]() Get youre fingers out, as looks like a fail on heatwave this weekend, so no barbeque or diy ![]() Can play on PC
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Never seen that distro before.
Looks really nice and like the dock idea myself. But will have to install firefox browser. Have a couple of older test machines that have been running XP and Mint, but may use this on them. Just downloading now, will run in a VM first to try it out. Have a few users who need an XP upgrade, but they were not convinced with the Ubuntu or Mint desktop, this may work for them. They wanted to see the XP desktop. Linux does tend to turn their nose up, not sure what they have heard, but they seem to think its poor. Nothing I say can change their mind, its a shame really, as I use Mint, Puppy and Ubuntu on a few older machines and in VMs with only 1gb memory set regularly and all work very well. Linux still seems to have that geek image which is a shame, I have got a few people onto Mint and they seem to be honest, i got one person onto puppy Linux slako as it is really light , not fond of it myself mine you. i know someone else who is having a problem with their computer and I will try and introduce them to Linux as well Quote:
I've got Elementary OS on one of my machines (Pentium 4, 2GB RAM). Really simple and elegant.
The current 'Luna' version is based on Ubuntu 12.04. They are working on the successor 'Isis' (presumably based on 14.04), but could take ages, so no need to wait. To get a few customization features install elementary-tweaks. |
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min/max/close buttons cant be set on right, double/single click on mouse is iffy. if i can get around that i would like to give it a chance ![]() seems a few people not liking them locking things down http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2210844&page=3 will have to wait for tweak tool to catch up
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There's a running joke on the Guardian's Ask Jack blog (advice re computer probs) where the answer to everything from a burnt out psu to a cracked iPhone is to install Linux. Today's question was about silent laptops. Here's one answer -
http://s22.postimg.org/yd4o0rcht/askjack.jpg btw it's a good read every Friday |
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is theres so much choice.
) but it would give it a new lease of life and it could be used for visitors to surf the web on or as a spare computer or for use in front of the TV. I'll find a use for it! I think I might give Lubuntu and LXLE a try. I also read Puppy Linux is good for old hardware and a lightweight distro might be better for XP era machines. Is that OSFirstTimer you posted a Youtube link to? I love those videos 


