I quite like Puppy, in that all drives are mapped on the Desktop. Instead of having to faff around mounting them.

But I have had problems with it. (Graphics on AMD)

Anyway, thanks for reply.

There's a review of the previous version of Linux Lite here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlMr2n6q7QA (l find his videos quite entertaining - way better than anything that's on ITV!)

Seriously, I came across a project in the USA that takes in old donated PC and laptops, puts on Linux Lite and then gives the computers back to college students who couldn't otherwise afford a PC or laptop.

I have now got Mint back on the computer, but chromium and flash is getting annoying, I get it working and then the next time I boot it stops working.

I may have to use Chrome instead

Apart from that Mint is as normal stable as hell and super fast,

No one seems to give memory usage data, plus there is a popular habit of using 'Lite' in the name.

Im sure some people are still curious about installing Linux, so heres a quick video.

http://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/5...howto-linux-1/

Intresting one on Mint.

http://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/5...agnant-lup-43/

Covers info from Clem about what they are going to do about the up and coming changes re ... Qtx Gtk Mir etc

Chromium and Flash is pissing me off as well (not just on Mint).

I just wish Flash would hurry up and die already.

I had problem with it on Manjaro, but only when Chromium was updated. I downloaded and installed Chrome and it seems to be working ok.
It is this pepperflash plugin that is the problem.

Well, I finally got something working on my old laptop. I found a disc from late 2012 with Lubuntu 12.10 32-bit on it. I know it's not the newest version but I can always update it and maybe on an old XP era laptop an older version is better. Everything seems to work ok, including the wifi Now the machine is usable for web surfing and other basic tasks and maybe a few simple games. It won't replace my Macs but it breathes a new lease of life into an old Windows XP-era (late 2004) laptop. I'm kinda attached to the laptop as I got it for Christmas when I was 14 and it was my first personal laptop

Second show

http://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/5...howto-linux-2/

There's a problem with Mint 17 which results in a blank screen on some systems when running from Live DVD. It attempts to use a generic driver instead of the nVidia one. It's a bit unnerving if you're not expecting it but with a bit of Googling it's fairly easy to solve.

Just listened to this. Very interesting. Bit annoyed at the Ubuntu guy ("Popey") getting very sniffy about Cinnamon/Mint, calling them (and by extension its users) "Refuseniks".

I am not a refusenik. I haven't shied away from the new desktops. I've used Shell and Unity many times and do like them. We use Ubuntu and its Unity desktop here, and it's fine and nice, but Cinnamon is ahead. Simply, it is faster, easier to use and I'd even say prettier too, especially so after adding a simple dock. Unity can prove too fiddly and fussy in a way that Cinnamon just isn't. The claim that Cinnamon is somehow holding things back and is not forward looking enough is frankly ridiculous. What could be more forward looking than a fast, light, feature-rich and easy to use desktop? Be careful Ubuntu-bods, to not get lost upside your own arse and start believing your own PR.

There is definitely an element in my mind that says Ubuntu is a little worried by the attention Mint gets, and just dismissing this as people who are a bit retro and not "forward looking" is disingenuous. Ubuntu needs to take a proper look at just why Mint is ahead in the go-to Linux stakes now. Hint: it's not just because it has a bar at the bottom folks.

I do hope in the long run that Mint gets the support it needs and can eventually move to the Debian base solely. It'll be a slow process, but I do think it will happen.

And breath
Do agree. Mint users aren't people that refuse to accept change.
Mint will grind to a hault eventually unless they move to Debian rolling release.
Some of those video reviews seem to always put down any Linux that isn't a rolling release.
I do tend to agree. People, including those moving from windows in general don't want a reload every 6months.
The likes of you and me and others on this thread don't mind. But for any Linux disto to move on. Rolling release is the way.
Mint team does give the impression they can't make there mind up. Especially with up and coming graphics changes.

But there's nothing to hang a hat on either way yet. I have a feeling Mint will go Wayland, simply because that is what will be in Debian predominantly, and the Linux landscape generally. Personally, I think that privately minds are indeed made up within Mint, but publicly it's a case of Ubuntu for now.

I just hate this presumption that if you are running Mint or a similar regular desktop that you are a fogey or whathaveyou. It's a load of cobblers. I just want a fast working OS with as little fuss as poss.

Wow, that's when Westlife became a four piece after Brian McFadden left the band to go solo! Seriously, I find Lubuntu to be a bit meh and I'd suggest LXLE or Zorin Lite instead as alternatives. Good to see that the laptop's been brought back to life though.


Hmmm. That comes across as a defensive comment. Comparisons have already been drawn between the seismic interface changes that have happened to both Ubuntu (Unity) and Windows (Win 8) with the results that the more conventional Linux Mint variants and Win 7 are more popular.

My own view is that if Linux wants to get wider acceptance and use, then having more familiar and conventional navigation interfaces will help to bring converts over from other operating systems.

I still think it's unfortunate that the Lindows/Linspire operation never took off and succeeded all those years ago whereby desktop PCs where supplied in the USA with a pre-installed Linux operating system because that would have reached the masses. That's still relatively rare this days although I've come across a number of IT firms that install Linux Mint or Ubuntu on refurbished PC but that's still at a low level.

If thats the case, and i think it should be. As if they dont they will be forever reliant on Canonical.
Then the Mint Debian release should be there number one priority by now, but its not.

I personaly would like to see them loose ties with Canonical.

I agree, I use mint cinnamon because it works and does the job. i tried some of these other desktops like Unity and the later Gnome.
I don't think we should change just because some people think we should. This is one of the things i like about linux, we can choose, not like Windows where they come out with changes and say like it or lump it. I an on about windows 8 here.

The two changes I have made to my desktop is get rid of hot corners, I hate them. Saying that the latest version of Mint seems to disable them as default now. The other chance is putting my panel at the top of the screen instead of the bottom.

I tried the Debian version of Mint, it is ok, but I had some problems and it seems like the software ware centre don't have the same choice.

The combination of the end of support for XP, the graphic disaster of Win 8 and the fact that Microsoft will only direct people to Win 8.1 (technically Win 7 Professional is still technically available for business use but it's kept very well hidden) has probably produced hundreds of thousands of new recruits for Linux (in addition to the cost factor*).

Depending upon which report you read, Linux operating system market share currently stands at between 1.6 to 1.7% (see http://dzfocdn.dazeinfo.com/wp-conte...ket-share1.png) and, by the end of this year, I expect that market share will have gone up. What has also helped is that number of computer magazine articles, online and printed, that are now recommending assorted Linux distributions as viable and valid alternatives to Microsoft products.

* see example below:

Ubuntu 12.04 LTS updated i3 to version 4.8 today.

http://i3wm.org/screenshots/#/screenshots/i3-1.png

slipped by me.
Didnt know they were working together.

http://www.netrunner-os.com/download/

Latest rolling release has just been released.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AILYKTcBX1Y

http://www.netrunner-os.com/

its rolling release, and available in 32 and 64.

How cool is this one

http://q4os.org/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIEWtLoMZlE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TF-c3CrX2A

Its still a Beta release, but does get good reports.

Scroll down for review
http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?is...140623#feature

I'm looking for a Linux distribution to serve as a dual boot set up with Windows with a view to ultimately replacing Windows and I've been particularly impressed with some of the distros that use KDE as the interface. Netrunner is on my check out list.


It does indeed get good reviews but when I burned off an ISO disc for testing, I found that the only option was for a full install and not a live CD trial. However, that was a few months ago and perhaps things have changed for the better since then.

I wish the project well and I hope that distribution, and others, can capitalise on the errors and complacency of Microsoft and the soaring costs of Apple & Co.

More Q4OS reviews:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8Jh10jWnf8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aNuTX4TapE

The combined XP/Win 8 effect is having an effect...

...and a positive effect at that in respect of Linux take up. According to the netmarketshare.com website, Linux operating system market share stood at 1.48% in February and, for the month of June, that market share now stands at 1.74%.

That's an increase of 0.26% and a relative increase of 17.6%. By the end of autumn this year, it's quite possible that Linux will have the crossed the 2% OS market share boundary.

And now for some entertainment: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxU4CVo6xlQ

Nice idea I suppose to get people into using Linux, but they will be disappointed when the software they use on windows will not work or their fancy new all in one printer fail to connect.

People have to know that what they are using is not windows. i have put mint on a lot of peoples machines and they are happy with it, but I have also told them it works differently to windows and software that works with windows will not work with Linux.

I know there is wine, but I found it pretty limited.

hardware is a problem certainly new hardware, My printer is getting on now a Canon IP4200 and works well on linux as does my HP scanner, but I been thinking of replacing the printer with a nice new Wi-fi Canon printer, but so far I have had no luck in finding out if it works with linux.