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Old 07-01-2016, 18:40
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Linux Mint 17.3 Cinnamon review by Dedoimedo http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/linux-mint-rosa.html

I think dedoimedo must have been having a bad day as he gave it 0 out of 10. Personally I think it is the best one yet.
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Old 07-01-2016, 18:51
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Seems to me that if ALL the distros suck the fail point is the tester.

Rosa Mate 64bit is just about flawless on the 2 machines I've installed it on.
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Old 08-01-2016, 19:11
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Linux Mint 17.3 Cinnamon review by Dedoimedo http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/linux-mint-rosa.html

I think dedoimedo must have been having a bad day as he gave it 0 out of 10. Personally I think it is the best one yet.
Wow that is scathing. I can't comment on Mint myself as I haven't used it in a few years
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Old 12-01-2016, 17:17
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That reminds me, Windows is the OS that normally gives me trouble but over the Christmas holiday, I got a "grub hd0 out of disk" error message on my laptop. Never had that before and I still don't know what caused the bootloader to get corrupted. Was easily solved using the repair option on my Rescatux disc - http://www.supergrubdisk.org/rescatux/ - it's worth having a copy.

Of course its only the opinion of this site.
2015
http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/b...stro-2015.html

Compared to what they thought last year
2014
http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/b...stro-2014.html
Actually, that 2015 list is a pretty good selection of distributions for newcomers to Linux to try out.

Linux Mint 17.3 Cinnamon review by Dedoimedo http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/linux-mint-rosa.html

I think dedoimedo must have been having a bad day as he gave it 0 out of 10. Personally I think it is the best one yet.
That review is out of kilter with the others that I've read, such as this one here http://www.pcworld.com/article/30130...ience-yet.html so I think it's an unrepresentative outlier which ought perhaps to be ignored.
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Old 20-01-2016, 09:52
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Dedoimedo has had another go and appears to have cheered up giving Mint a 9 out of 10 score in his updated review. He didn't give it a 10 due to bluetooth issues.

http://dedoimedo.com/computers/linux...a-to-rosa.html
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Old 20-01-2016, 11:30
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"It's not a jerkfest competition who gets their git commit in faster."

That does seem to happen a heck of a lot, users getting frustrated if they fo not have a safe but narrow list of hardware.
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Old 23-01-2016, 14:35
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This article made delightful reading last night:

8 Reasons to Switch from Windows 10 to Linux
"I opened up my daughters new W10 Dell i7 laptop to see what W10 was like and after three hours or so decided it was an ABOMINATION – a cheap circus with a plethora of harrowing, time wasting sideshows."

Some of the quotes in the comments section are pricless plus there's the cautionery tale of Windows, a careless employee and cryptolocker - double
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Old 25-01-2016, 15:48
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Just had a notice in Chrome (running on Mint 17 Qiana 32-bit) that it will no longer be supported on my laptop after March. Looks like Chrome is dropping support for 32-bit Linux Operating systems from then on. it seems this was announced in December but I missed it. I only have 32-bit hardware dating from 2008-2011 which I have spiced up with RAM upgrades and SSD's over the years.

http://www.xda-developers.com/xda-ex...-discontinued/
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Old 25-01-2016, 18:09
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Just had a notice in Chrome (running on Mint 17 Qiana 32-bit) that it will no longer be supported on my laptop after March. Looks like Chrome is dropping support for 32-bit Linux Operating systems from then on. it seems this was announced in December but I missed it. I only have 32-bit hardware dating from 2008-2011 which I have spiced up with RAM upgrades and SSD's over the years.

http://www.xda-developers.com/xda-ex...-discontinued/
Looks like that you'll still be able to use Chromium, just not the full Google Chrome?
You can probably continue to use Chrome, but it won't be updated so will become less secure.

Also seems they are dropping support for Chrome on anything based on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, which might be a bigger issue, as it's supposed to be supported till April 2017?

http://www.pcworld.com/article/30104...-debian-7.html
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Old 25-01-2016, 18:38
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Just had a notice in Chrome (running on Mint 17 Qiana 32-bit) that it will no longer be supported on my laptop after March. Looks like Chrome is dropping support for 32-bit Linux Operating systems from then on. it seems this was announced in December but I missed it. I only have 32-bit hardware dating from 2008-2011 which I have spiced up with RAM upgrades and SSD's over the years.

http://www.xda-developers.com/xda-ex...-discontinued/
I wonder what Opera will do?
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Old 01-02-2016, 22:03
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Seems its come back to bite them on the ass.
Mints policy of not upgrading/dating as often as other Distros.

Maintaining your own Apps is making a lot of extra work for themselves.
Also as time goes on, Mint will become even more isolated from the norm. Making maintaining it even harder.
http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2985

Scroll to 40mins
http://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/9...le14x-las-402/

Mints doing great work at the moment, but say in 2-3-5 yrs its going to be dated and requiring lots of extra work to maintain.
They are still reliant on Ubuntu as they haven't moved over to the Debian release as the default release.
Ubuntu are of on a different path to what Mint want to do.
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Old 04-02-2016, 18:55
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Linux Mint 17.3 Cinnamon review by Dedoimedo http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/linux-mint-rosa.html

I think dedoimedo must have been having a bad day as he gave it 0 out of 10. Personally I think it is the best one yet.
Dedoimedo has definitely cheered up. He has just given Linux Mint 17.3 xfce a 10 out of 10 review.

http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/l...rosa-xfce.html
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Old 04-02-2016, 19:23
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Seems its come back to bite them on the ass.
Mints policy of not upgrading/dating as often as other Distros.

Maintaining your own Apps is making a lot of extra work for themselves.
Also as time goes on, Mint will become even more isolated from the norm. Making maintaining it even harder.
http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2985

Scroll to 40mins
http://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/9...le14x-las-402/

Mints doing great work at the moment, but say in 2-3-5 yrs its going to be dated and requiring lots of extra work to maintain.
They are still reliant on Ubuntu as they haven't moved over to the Debian release as the default release.
Ubuntu are of on a different path to what Mint want to do.
You've posted all this just to garner a response from me.

People have been saying these things for some years now, and yet here is Mint and it's still going great guns. I'm not sure how you've read that article but Mint have always said they did not have any desire to be maintaining extra programs and accessories.

From a long term point of view, we knew this would become more and more of an issue but it was decided early that Cinnamon would not get its own applications, because it represented too much work and there were too few differences in application needs between Cinnamon, MATE and Xfce. It just made no sense to invest time in making “Cinnamon applications”. For similar reasons we invested very little time in developing MATE applications.
Clem is nothing if not pragmatic about how to move forward. The solution they have presented allows them to work more easily between the different versions of Mint they create. Hey, if it doesn't work and they look like fools, then I'll be the first to look at other options. But I remember having these discussions some years ago when Cinnamon first hit, but that turned out fantastically well. I'm not worried one bit for the future of Mint.
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Old 05-02-2016, 20:16
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You've posted all this just to garner a response from me.
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No

I Hope they make a go of it, just seems lots of extra work for them.
Still think they would be better in the long run putting there time into making the Debian release the default.
Plus it seems as time goes bye they will become more isolated. If it doesn't work, it's going to be lots of work to come back into line with others.
But as you say, when has that ever bothered Clem

Suppose its a bit like https://elementary.io/
They have there own way of doing things, and so far it's working.

This year will see a few changes for the top Distros.
Unity 8 going there own way with Mir.
Others using Wayland.
Some using LXQT. http://lxqt.org/
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Old 07-02-2016, 09:16
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Anyone tried SuperTuxKart recently? Just been reading Dedoimedo's blog and though I'd give it a go. It's come a long way! Lot's of fun, well worth your time.
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Old 08-02-2016, 20:28
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Anyone tried SuperTuxKart recently? Just been reading Dedoimedo's blog and though I'd give it a go. It's come a long way! Lot's of fun, well worth your time.
Lol, I think I shall pass on that one, fun though it may be!

And now for some promising news not least because it'll provide a cash boost to Canonical:

AT&T's latest Linux choice may profoundly shape Ubuntu. AT&T has struck a deal with Canonical that could shape the future of the platform currently "owning" the cloud.

In particular, I agree with this point, "but Canonical would be remiss if the company turned its back on the desktop", and hopefully the cash injection will provide the means to improve desktop Ubuntu which, I feel, has been neglected in the past couple of years.

New! (and why the desktop has been neglected)

Canonical's new Ubuntu tablet can also be your PC. Canonical still believes in convergence. The company that makes the open-source OS Ubuntu and tried to raise $32 million for a smartphone that can power a PC has announced its first ever tablet, promising that the device is just a keyboard and mouse away from a full desktop experience.

I know this is from a 'usual suspect', but it is true, isn't it?

Why switch to Windows 10 or a Mac when you can use Linux Mint 17.3 instead? Linux Mint 17.3 is the best Linux desktop operating system and it might be the best PC operating system, period, for you.
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Old 17-02-2016, 21:06
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Just had a notice in Chrome (running on Mint 17 Qiana 32-bit) that it will no longer be supported on my laptop after March. Looks like Chrome is dropping support for 32-bit Linux Operating systems from then on. it seems this was announced in December but I missed it. I only have 32-bit hardware dating from 2008-2011 which I have spiced up with RAM upgrades and SSD's over the years.

http://www.xda-developers.com/xda-ex...-discontinued/
That is particularly annoying since there's still plenty of 32-bit laptops and desktop PCs in circulation and working well after having been given a second lease of life with a Linux distribution. Apparently, 32-bit Linux users were only a small minority of Chrome's user base and were thus not worth bothering with - http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/01/g...t-discontinued

Which reminds me, Google are also in the doghouse for their heavy handed action against the Chromixium distribution because Google set their lawyers on to them to get them to change their name - they're now Cub Linux: https://cublinux.com/2016/01/17/chro...a-cub-is-born/

It reminds me of the Windows-Lindows action from 2002 onwards but this time the villains reside not in Redmond but in Mountain View, CA.
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Old 18-02-2016, 08:47
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Seems even Ubuntu are dropping 32 support as well.
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ub...ry/039161.html

think they may have a point.
think its time to move on for all concerned.
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Old 18-02-2016, 16:22
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Move on?

Well, some of the near current Atom stuff is 32 bit and run better for not having the 64 bit overhead. 64 bit never really gained in performance, and on mobile it is more likely a mildly frustrating loss.
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Old 21-02-2016, 18:50
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Ouch!

I’m sorry I have to come with bad news.

We were exposed to an intrusion today. It was brief and it shouldn’t impact many people, but if it impacts you, it’s very important you read the information below.

What happened?

Hackers made a modified Linux Mint ISO, with a backdoor in it, and managed to hack our website to point to it.

Does this affect you?

As far as we know, the only compromised edition was Linux Mint 17.3 Cinnamon edition.

If you downloaded another release or another edition, this does not affect you. If you downloaded via torrents or via a direct HTTP link, this doesn’t affect you either.

Finally, the situation happened today, so it should only impact people who downloaded this edition on February 20th.
http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2994
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Old 21-02-2016, 19:19
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First of..... Bastards...

Clem has devoted his life to Mint and they do something like that.
Wouldn't mind but he's a good guy, thought they only went after bad corporates etc.

Am curious why they picked on him?

Still, this will raise a lot of discussion again about Mint and security.

The main site is still down
http://linuxmint.com/

and passwords have been compromised
http://blog.linuxmint.com/
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Old 21-02-2016, 19:49
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First of..... Bastards...

Clem has devoted his life to Mint and they do something like that.
Wouldn't mind but he's a good guy, thought they only went after bad corporates etc.
He comes across very well in his on-going Q&A
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Old 21-02-2016, 20:08
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First of..... Bastards...

Clem has devoted his life to Mint and they do something like that.
Wouldn't mind but he's a good guy, thought they only went after bad corporates etc.

Am curious why they picked on him?

Still, this will raise a lot of discussion again about Mint and security.

The main site is still down
http://linuxmint.com/

and passwords have been compromised
http://blog.linuxmint.com/
I agree entirely. What type of total scumbag would hack and disrupt the distribution a free Linux operating system that anyone, regardless of their income, can use? This as morally bad as stealing lead from church roofs and I hope the scumbags responsible are identified and prosecuted.
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Old 22-02-2016, 11:20
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I agree entirely. What type of total scumbag would hack and disrupt the distribution a free Linux operating system that anyone, regardless of their income, can use? This as morally bad as stealing lead from church roofs and I hope the scumbags responsible are identified and prosecuted.
I think the type of scumbag in question is simply a thief. Suggestions are already being made about ways in which security on the Mint site could be improved, but as these things go, I think Clem and his colleagues have reacted with admirable speed and done everything possible to limit the immediate impact.
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Old 22-02-2016, 18:59
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The main problem I'm having at the moment is that the advice is to change your forum password.

But the site is down. I cannot do this.

Luckily I have a pretty strong Keepass generated password that is unique to the site, but still, I would not like to think any personal info has been compromised.
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