Originally Posted by DUNDEEBOY:
“Was he the guy that he had been on Millwall's books”
“Was he the guy that he had been on Millwall's books”
Yes that was him.
Black men
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If we are going to start ticking boxes, have there ever been any participants with a disability or cross gender?
As long as there is a good mix, I don't think it matters.
It would concern me more if there was 1 black male in every series. That would seem more of a token gesture.
As long as there is a good mix, I don't think it matters.
It would concern me more if there was 1 black male in every series. That would seem more of a token gesture.
looking at the apprentice i see a broad range of people, the only "..ist" is that its an equal split of male/female rather than the best 16 people or should there have to be a token "xxxx" person in the 16 which could make it fun when we need a token lesbian widow of a non caucassian descent or the program will not be aired
Originally Posted by crake:
“Presumably because there is a black woman on this year's show.
If Wikipedia is correct (yes, probably not) then black people make up only 2% of the population, which means The Apprentice, if anything, has over-represented black people on the show!!
...not that I'm suggesting they should reduce the numbers! But at the same time they shouldn't feel compelled to have a black candidate to fit some PC quota.”
“Presumably because there is a black woman on this year's show.
If Wikipedia is correct (yes, probably not) then black people make up only 2% of the population, which means The Apprentice, if anything, has over-represented black people on the show!!
...not that I'm suggesting they should reduce the numbers! But at the same time they shouldn't feel compelled to have a black candidate to fit some PC quota.”
I agree .If anything they sometimes get over represented compared to the UK population percentage , whereas some regions of the UK get under their fair representation for geordies and Welsh / Scots etc .
Originally Posted by Sweet FA:
“It's only a question - why are you getting your knickers in a twist over it?
More typically round here, it's threads about black women which normally descend into nastiness and farce although any thread has the potential to get silly.
Pretty sure Glen, last night's winning PM, is mixed-race, ...”
“It's only a question - why are you getting your knickers in a twist over it?
More typically round here, it's threads about black women which normally descend into nastiness and farce although any thread has the potential to get silly.Pretty sure Glen, last night's winning PM, is mixed-race, ...”
And that guy from last year who told Margaret he was a "key cog" - but I can't remember his name.
Originally Posted by crake:
“I liked him until the last few minutes of the final. Trump considered offering a position to the runner up as well -- it was a close choice -- and asked Pinkett what he thought. Pinkett immediately said something to the effect of "No, there should be only one winner". And so the other guy was deprived what seemed like a dream job for him.”
“I liked him until the last few minutes of the final. Trump considered offering a position to the runner up as well -- it was a close choice -- and asked Pinkett what he thought. Pinkett immediately said something to the effect of "No, there should be only one winner". And so the other guy was deprived what seemed like a dream job for him.”
Smart man, reasonable answer. After weeks of gruelling tasks, why get 50% of the accolade by having another "winner" on the show.
Originally Posted by Shaiya:
“Smart man, reasonable answer. After weeks of gruelling tasks, why get 50% of the accolade by having another "winner" on the show.”
“Smart man, reasonable answer. After weeks of gruelling tasks, why get 50% of the accolade by having another "winner" on the show.”
I suppose that depends on whether you're there for the job or to be able to declare yourself the "winner", really.
Originally Posted by trollface:
“I suppose that depends on whether you're there for the job or to be able to declare yourself the "winner", really.”
“I suppose that depends on whether you're there for the job or to be able to declare yourself the "winner", really.”
I'd imagine by the end, it was both for him.
Originally Posted by Sweet FA:
“It's only a question - why are you getting your knickers in a twist over it? More typically round here, it's threads about black women which normally descend into nastiness and farce although any thread has the potential to get silly.
Pretty sure Glen, last night's winning PM, is mixed-race, ...”
“It's only a question - why are you getting your knickers in a twist over it?
More typically round here, it's threads about black women which normally descend into nastiness and farce although any thread has the potential to get silly.Pretty sure Glen, last night's winning PM, is mixed-race, ...”
The pettiness at the start of this post sums it up. You have answered your own question.
Originally Posted by WickedPlans:
“It would concern me more if there was 1 black male in every series. That would seem more of a token gesture.”
“It would concern me more if there was 1 black male in every series. That would seem more of a token gesture.”
Wow. Are you suggesting producers or researchers select candidates by their ethnicities, rather than by their application forms?
Originally Posted by Amagad:
“Randall Pinkett won the US apprentice.”
“Randall Pinkett won the US apprentice.”
Probably the best 'Apprentice' out of all the UK and USA ones.
Originally Posted by Takae:
“Wow. Are you suggesting producers or researchers select candidates by their ethnicities, rather than by their application forms?”
“Wow. Are you suggesting producers or researchers select candidates by their ethnicities, rather than by their application forms?”
Astonishingly, that does actually happen in certain professions.
The black guys should think themselves lucky, there have only ever been two scousers on The Apprentice, yet everyone knows we are found all over the fooking place. I hate regionalism! 
Originally Posted by Shaiya:
“I'd imagine by the end, it was both for him.”
“I'd imagine by the end, it was both for him.”
And being more concerned about being declared the "winner" than in having the company you're about to get a job at have the best assets it can possibly have to do well makes him "smart" and "reasonable", does it?
Originally Posted by umgee:
“You really can't see where I am going with this. What holes have I picked, what suggestions have I made?”
“You really can't see where I am going with this. What holes have I picked, what suggestions have I made?”
So, where are you going with it?
Tim Campbell who won, Ansell who didn't win but went far and was a great contestant. There have probably been others but we always remember the people with personalities, whether they win or lose, regardless of race.
If we're going to look at demographics, there is a disproportionate under-representation of people over 40 in The Apprentice.
I don't like this sort of thread either, but I'm posting on it because I'm bored and too tired to climb the wooden hill. Oh yeah, and I've got arthritis in me knees
If the OP actually wants an answer to the question, then I'm sure the information is all there. It was obviously a rhetirical question, asked for "effect". I really don't care whether they close the thread or not though. :yawn:
I don't like this sort of thread either, but I'm posting on it because I'm bored and too tired to climb the wooden hill. Oh yeah, and I've got arthritis in me knees
If the OP actually wants an answer to the question, then I'm sure the information is all there. It was obviously a rhetirical question, asked for "effect". I really don't care whether they close the thread or not though. :yawn:
Originally Posted by crake:
“I liked him until the last few minutes of the final. Trump considered offering a position to the runner up as well -- it was a close choice -- and asked Pinkett what he thought. Pinkett immediately said something to the effect of "No, there should be only one winner". And so the other guy was deprived what seemed like a dream job for him.”
“I liked him until the last few minutes of the final. Trump considered offering a position to the runner up as well -- it was a close choice -- and asked Pinkett what he thought. Pinkett immediately said something to the effect of "No, there should be only one winner". And so the other guy was deprived what seemed like a dream job for him.”
And what was wrong with that on a program whose entire premise is to award the prize to one Apprentice?
If you want to take umbrage with anyone, take it up with Trump for asking the rightful winner such a moronic question.:yawn:
Originally Posted by WickedPlans:
“If we are going to start ticking boxes, have there ever been any participants with a disability or cross gender?
As long as there is a good mix, I don't think it matters.
It would concern me more if there was 1 black male in every series. That would seem more of a token gesture.”
“If we are going to start ticking boxes, have there ever been any participants with a disability or cross gender?
As long as there is a good mix, I don't think it matters.
It would concern me more if there was 1 black male in every series. That would seem more of a token gesture.”
Originally Posted by Takae:
“Wow. Are you suggesting producers or researchers select candidates by their ethnicities, rather than by their application forms?”
“Wow. Are you suggesting producers or researchers select candidates by their ethnicities, rather than by their application forms?”
No, quite the opposite. The candidates have been picked for other qualities - nothing to do with their ethnicity.
If they were selected by their ethnicities, then there would have been 1 black man in every series.
Originally Posted by SugarNSpice:
“Ok, so there has overall been 2 - 3 black men who have appeared in the Apprentice series. Now, how many Chinese men have ever appeared on the show?”
“Ok, so there has overall been 2 - 3 black men who have appeared in the Apprentice series. Now, how many Chinese men have ever appeared on the show?”
Not Chinese specifically but Tuan Le in Series 2 is from an Oriental background.
I can't remember any Welsh candidates
Originally Posted by Sweet FA:
“And what was wrong with that on a program whose entire premise is to award the prize to one Apprentice? If you want to take umbrage with anyone, take it up with Trump for asking the rightful winner such a moronic question.:yawn:”
“And what was wrong with that on a program whose entire premise is to award the prize to one Apprentice?
If you want to take umbrage with anyone, take it up with Trump for asking the rightful winner such a moronic question.:yawn:”
He would still be the winner and would still get the job. I don't see what he gained by denying another person a job too.
We saw his true character at that moment.
Originally Posted by crake:
“He would still be the winner and would still get the job. I don't see what he gained by denying another person a job too.
We saw his true character at that moment.”
“He would still be the winner and would still get the job. I don't see what he gained by denying another person a job too.
We saw his true character at that moment.”
Rubbish.
Originally Posted by WickedPlans:
“If we are going to start ticking boxes, have there ever been any participants with a disability or cross gender?”
“If we are going to start ticking boxes, have there ever been any participants with a disability or cross gender?”
Tre has a painful back problem, which I would think counts as an invisible disabilty.
However the nature of the show is quite exclusive - I thought about applying but as a wheelchair user could not get in the house (I need a stairlift and an adapted bathroom, among other things) and would struggle with tasks where people are going door to door e.g. with the car wash task in previous series, or physically doing some of the activities (working in a factory, unless there was appropriate seating, and so on).
I run my own business and The Apprentice does interest me but I've always felt there was no point in applying. I guess SurAlan would expect me to crawl up stairs if I wanted it enough...
Originally Posted by BelligerentBoss:
“The black guys should think themselves lucky, there have only ever been two scousers on The Apprentice, yet everyone knows we are found all over the fooking place. I hate regionalism!”
“The black guys should think themselves lucky, there have only ever been two scousers on The Apprentice, yet everyone knows we are found all over the fooking place. I hate regionalism!
”
True.
A scouser will be found on the moon one day
I am disappointed with the lack of Northerners on The Apprentice....and cute men
Seriously- who cares?
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