We are in the last of the last days!

The final few before e discover the truth about the wonderful Dr River song

So what hints have we had along the way

- 'The only water in the forest is the River'

Forest of the dead? Series four! One of the drs first encounters with River? Is it significant?

Anyone think of anymore?

"Were all going to die right now and you two are squabbling like an old married couple."

"I am quite a screamer now theres a spoiler for you."

"You dont know who or WHAT she is."

Check the list of threads - I think every possible clue has been pored over a hundred times.

Been obvious for a while then...

she's a reincarnation of Mel Bush!

I've been checking a few older photos of Alex Kingston - just looking for new clues - obviously


Incidentally - and off topic but seeing as I'm here...

I can't get the smilies to work - okay to insert them manually as text but won't work if I click on them in the list on the edit page. Anyone else having that problem today or is it just something wrong at my end?

I've been logged off several times today with no warning. It was suggested in the Inn the may be a forum issue.

Everything went down for a while - all of the DS forums. Back up now (obviously, sonce I'm posting this - DOH!!) and smilies working again.

Cheers

my partner had same problem could access news etc. but not forums seems to be back ok now tho so must of been ds updating something me thinks

when tardis was alive did i or did not distinctly hear her call the doctor sweetie. exactly the words river uses isn't it? and she is very good at flying the tardis. too good for hardly been in it me thinks

river song and Amy have the same watch. not that I actualy notticed. I read it somewhere. And it turns out whowever notticed it was right.

suggesting that one of them gave it to the other, at some point in the future.

work, work work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hasn't she been taught by the Tardis how to fly it though. She said originally that she had been taught by the very best. We assumed she meant the Doctor but now we know the Tardis is spirit she could just as easily have been taught by the Tardis.

Well River has curly hair, and we all know who had curly hair

Sorry I couldn't resist it

No I was gonna come back with
She has two legs
So that makes her

But Long John Silver only had one, and he can walk. Get your facts straight

Sorry was taking the mick.

Well two legs means two legs, I would be very disappointed if she turns out to be a centepide now

When she said she had been taught by the best, the Doctor assumed she meant him and looked smug. To wipe the smile from his face, she then said: 'It's a pity you weren't there!' We were supposed to believe it wasn't the Doctor who taught her.

In The Pandorica Opens, as she is talking to the Doctor when the TARDIS starts playing up (being remotely controlled by an as yet unknown foe), and he tells her she must be flying it wrong she then categorically states that it was indeed he who taught her to fly it. Why would she lie like that when she's under massive duress?

As for her being a TARDIS in human form - just: no.

Not every single aspect of a story is going to be repeated ad nauseum... They can write new and original ideas too, you know!

I think we're being lead by the nose where River's concerned. The impression we're being pretty-well forced to draw is that River is going to do something bad - something that will harm the Doctor or someone close to him.

Trouble is, her meetings with the Doctor are in reverse order. What we'll see now is really her introduction - the first time he learns who - and maby what - she is. If you step back and look at it from the Doctor's personal time line - which is effectively the same as ours - she can't be that bad because he is then - according to her, their diaries and other information - going to become very close to her. Unless she's been lying about them being close in his future, whatever she is or does, he likes her enought for her to later become a companion and/or lover.

I'd suggest that whatever she does that she feels guilty for - guilty enough to (mostly) sray in a prison tha she can walk out of anytime - is actually a sacrifice on her part - something that she hates having to do and regrets but was done for the right reason.

I do, however, think that there is something otherworldly about her. The reversed timelines and her memory remaining intact after Big Bang point towards her being something outside of our universe's laws.

From a practical point of view, she's a character that is supposedto exist in the Doctor's future - to know his future incarnations. For that to be possible - in terms of using the character in far-off episodes - the show's makers will need to be able to recast the part at somepoint. It's easy enough to have an alien species re-appear 50 years later - a Dalek or Davros is just an all-covering costume and makeup, for example, but the way they got around recasting "human" characters like the Doctor or Master was to have them regenerate. If River is going to be seen in - say - 10 years time - they may need to come up a similarly "alien" way of keeping the character whilst using a different actress.

scremer quote = baby?
And they were also in a forest in a ship in series 5 ~ could that be when Amy was taken? The episode was "flesh and stone" after all, and the clerics in that episode share the omega symbol logo with the soldiers in the episode 7 trailer.